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Honestly if people around me tried to say I had to take certain rules because of my paint scheme, I'd quit playing with them.  It's hard enough to get myself motivated to paint without having possible rules ramifications getting in the way! 

Granted, I do tend to do my own paint schemes anyway, but that's because I don't feel I'm a strong painter and if I copy an official paint scheme, then I worry it'll just end up looking like a crappy version of that.  When I do my own scheme, no one has an official version to compare it to!

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27 minutes ago, willange said:

Honestly if people around me tried to say I had to take certain rules because of my paint scheme, I'd quit playing with them.  It's hard enough to get myself motivated to paint without having possible rules ramifications getting in the way! 

Granted, I do tend to do my own paint schemes anyway, but that's because I don't feel I'm a strong painter and if I copy an official paint scheme, then I worry it'll just end up looking like a crappy version of that.  When I do my own scheme, no one has an official version to compare it to!

Totally agree - sorry but wont be stripping down freeguild, kharadron and stormcast for Tempests Eye. Way I see it cities are pretty ramshackle at times with own sub-factions with different heralds/colours what-have-you. If they're painted then I'm good. If anyone complains, well...

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1 hour ago, michu said:

And that is the most logical approach. I can understand that these custom painted marines use Salamanders rules today and Raven Guard tommorow but don't try to tell me that those red marines with angel wings and blood drops are Ultramarines - they're Blood Angels.

Have you ever heard of the alpha legion?

How can you be sure, that those space marines aren’t infiltrated chaos space marines.

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I can understand people not liking a Hammerhal painted army using Anvildgard rules, for example, as both are represented in a clear way fluff wise and have distinct rules represented in the book. I don't share the issue, but maybe someone can find it confusing or saying it's not thematic enough (narrativeee) or whatever.

But if you are going with your own painting scheme and basically have your made up city, I think it should be fine using any of the available rules in the book. I'm sure Greywater Fastness isn't the only city in the entire mortal realms making heavy use of warmachines, so nothing stops one from adopting a similar military style for their own creation.

 

But in any case, I'm quite happy with the previewed stuff for now. Seems like an expansion on the Firestorm concept and a few tweaks, which is reasonable albeit predictable. Retinue thing seems like a good idea, though I was hoping for something like the imperial guard, where a Commander picks a few veterans and specialists with different equipment.  

 

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Honestly most people don't even know more than one scheme from their own army let alone others. I wouldn't worry about colourschemes at all. It's really only an issue which affects Space Marines and even then its only because GW makes specific models and upgrades for each Marine Chapter and its only really become an issue because of "souped" armies being a thing where a single marine player might want to take two or three different chapters without building models for them.

Most people for AoS don't even know what the official schemes are and heck some armies, like Daughters of Khaine, the schemes are so similar that you can hardly tell most apart from each other. So in reality most people will never flag it as a problem. Asides in theory if you make 1 different colour to the "official scheme" then you're fine and that could even be picking out details that GW doesn't on their scheme, using your own colour. Paint them however you want!

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Looks like I'll have plenty of options for converting my discontinued Wanderers models and such, and I'll be able to make the giant wolf riders that I've been wanting to for like a decade and field them as counts-as demigryphs! I'm really looking forward to giving my Nomad Prince like 30 ablative wounds with his retinue and dancing in front of my enemies, as well as being literally dripping command points to use with my cheap heroes.

I'm excited to have a good reason to convert and model again, with so many options and possibilities!

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I wanted to make an army of the living city and finally use my forest dragons with my wood elfs army but surprise, only the dark elfs have dragons.... and the twilight sisters on forest dragon will have to count as a Sorcerer....

And 30 glade guard will have to be 3 x10 sisters of the watch? and my dragon princes will have to count as dark elfs on drakespawn... and my wild riders as dark riders.... and Orion as nothing... too much changes that I dont know if Im confused, sad or wanting to make a new army to buy the same models but on the dark elf range.... meh 

 

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22 minutes ago, overtninja said:

Looks like I'll have plenty of options for converting my discontinued Wanderers models and such, and I'll be able to make the giant wolf riders that I've been wanting to for like a decade and field them as counts-as demigryphs! I'm really looking forward to giving my Nomad Prince like 30 ablative wounds with his retinue and dancing in front of my enemies, as well as being literally dripping command points to use with my cheap heroes.

I'm excited to have a good reason to convert and model again, with so many options and possibilities!

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13 minutes ago, Hoseman said:

I wanted to make an army of the living city and finally use my forest dragons with my wood elfs army but surprise, only the dark elfs have dragons.... and the twilight sisters on forest dragon will have to count as a Sorcerer....

And 30 glade guard will have to be 3 x10 sisters of the watch? and my dragon princes will have to count as dark elfs on drakespawn... and my wild riders as dark riders.... and Orion as nothing... too much changes that I dont know if Im confused, sad or wanting to make a new army to buy the same models but on the dark elf range.... meh 

You already knew that. And both Orion and the sisters were never part of the first GHB. They had some compendium warscrolls, but that's it.

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So I'm going to assume (with a heavy heart) that militia weapons are gone as an option for freeguild guard now.

I really hope people are happy for me to still use my unit of 20 as another option. It took forever to model them all.

Still this book couldn't have come at a better time. As it pre orders on my local GW stores birthday so I can order that and the stormcast knight questor to go into my city army too :)

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5 minutes ago, Envyus said:

Kind of sad Battle Wizards appear to have been removed. I wonder why. When I first checked the stuff going away, they were not on it .

Almost certainly going to be reboxed. They were in a special "Allies" box, so a reboxing is in order. They've been on quite a few of the displays too and the old Bright Wizard art was the preview for the Cities book on Sunday.

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1 hour ago, Chumphammer said:

Phoenix guard Battleline
Frosthearts with Anointed 
Some fire support (Maybe stormcast)
Phoenix Battalions (heals units within 12)
Lifeswarm (Heals D6 over D3 as special endless spell rules for freecities)

Sounds like fun :)

I was considering something similar just this afternoon!  Rezzing D6 Phoenix Guard that each have 4+ save and 4+ ward should be crazy value.

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