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I would love it if gitmobs got broken out into a separate faction! Having different "flavors" of a fantasy race is always so fun. I know people joke about aelves having 4 factions, but I would love to see 4 different "flavors" of goblin too! And duardin! And Orruks! All of them

If they do, the alternate build is usually a named character.

The lore in the Thondia book also heavily featured a BoC/Bonesplitterz team-up to control an incarnate. I guess Yndrasta really just beat the ****** outta them

Love the rules changes. I agree the coherency stuff might be annoying, but I think some of you are thinking it's a more common issue than it is. Yes, nighthaunt and wing-a-ling models won't like it. I actually am super lazy and stick most of my dudes base to base anyway (a habit I picked up from my Lumineth army) and space-wise it works for most kits. I own 17 armies at the moment: Khorne Tzeentch Slaves to Darkness Slaanesh SCE CoS Seraphon KO IDK Sylvaneth Lumineth DoK Ogors Warclans GSG SoB Nighthaunt I can confidently say that across all those armies the only units that I know will have issues with this are a few flyers (like terradons in my seraphon, the occasional skywarden spear jutting out the side, gossamids, spiteriders), a few ultra dynamic poses (namarti if you position them too much on the edge which I have done, witch elves in the same scenario). It's a fairly niche issue that I'm confident can be resolved.

I also don’t believe the Fyreslayers going away bit (even with BoC biting the dust). FS were one of the harbingers for the dawnbringers narrative which I’m fairly sure means they’ll see a significant expansion of sorts.

Well I’m incredibly sad to see BoC leave AoS. I was pretty sure that wouldn’t happen. I guess i can still hope for an “AoSified” version of them later, but it’s a downer for sure. My first real aos army was boc after all. On top of that, sacrosanct leaving (probably without replacement models) is sad. I love those stupid chonky robey boys and girls. My bonesplitterz will be eating it up in green fungusy heaven. My 32 spire tyrants that i bought to be chaos marauders can obviously still be proxies, but i still feel sad for them. I’ll get over it. I own like 15 aos armies the new stuff is always better in the long run, but it’s okay to be sad about it for a bit. On the brightside, I guess I finally have an excuse to try old world.

I can’t believe the disrespect being shown to IDK Endless spells here

On the topic of 5th edition speculation (if you tell me it's too early, then I'll be forced to share my thoughts on rules-changes coming in 6th edition), I actually think 5th will be order "focused". 1st: A lot of people see this as the "chaos edition" since it was Khorne vs SCE. However, the real "victors" of 1st edition were the forces of order, not chaos. Chaos already held almost the entirety of the realms before Sigmar's Tempest and the founding of the Cities of Sigmar was the great triumph of order in 1st edition. In my mind, 1st edition is actually an "order edition" that happened to have a chaos opponent. Notably this edition also included the release of KO, IDK, Syvaneth, Fyreslayers all with substantial new model waves. Chaos did also get major Khorne and Tzeetch waves, but Destruction only got IJ and Death got mostly nothing if memory serves (they got a couple tomes, but no model waves). 2nd: Obviously the "death edition". You had 3 new waves of death models and Nighthaunt, OBR and Soulblight all either were or felt like new armies. Sure, you had your Lumineth, your SoB, GSG, CoS, but Death got a lot. Death made lots of gain narratively bringing themselves into relevance. 3rd: A decent "destruction edition". Never really got narrative focus, but you got quite a few things for GSG (like 4 kits), SoB (2 new builds which for them is a lot I guess lol), 1 "new faction" KB, a refresh plus expansion to IJ. Only Ogors missed the invite to the party, but even then they got a hero and a unit (gorgers) and a new terrain piece, so not nothing. Oh and a large displaced centigor. Arguably this edition was not too focused on destruction though as much as 2nd felt like it was for death. Most notably, destruction didn't really feel like it had a big "win" this edition. At least not to me. 4th: Apparently the "chaos edition". Skaven making a big impact certainly is a way to set the edition off in that direction. If rumors are to be believed (and they are because Whitefang is awesome) then Chorfs are on the way this edition as well. I suppose if BoC actually do get removed at some point, then that could put a damper on the chaos edition, but I'd imagine that narratively Chaos will make significant gains this edition. Thus, my theory is that 5th will see order making the narrative "gains" into 5th again. Does that mean an order v order launch box? Maybe? I actually would love to see SCE/CoS vs Malerion, but that's probably a pipedream. I could see order stabilizing a bunch after whatever setbacks they suffer in 4th. I do think it will feel like an order edition at least in a narrative sense. Easy to see how Kurnothi/Malerion/Lumineth-Temples/Grungni-dwarves/Gholemkind/others could all swoop in during that 2027-2030 timeframe to really make it feel like an order edition though.

I still don't believe the BoC leaving rumor. That's in large part because I don't want it to be true, but also because I just can't see any logical reason for it. If they do "leave" I imagine it would be just the current models mostly leaving alongside a largish model refresh akin to the seraphon one. I have no source for this, but it's what makes sense to me.

See, I actually love this style, but I do prefer this aesthetic to some of the oldhammer arts that many seem to love.

Sons of TGA! Of Morghur! My beast-brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of the weak manlings. A day may come when our tome is squatted, when we forsake our horns and break all bonds of the herdstone, but it is not this day. An hour of the man-god and shattered hooves when the Age of the beast comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we bray! By all that you hold dear on this foul earth, I bid you stand, Beasts of Chaos!

I have nothing to back this up of course, but I really really really don't think IDK are going anywhere. Sure, they might not get any major expansions for a good while, but sooner or later they'll have their day in the sun... or well maybe not the sun since they like the bottom of the ocean, but y'know, their day in the geothermal vents or whatever. EDIT: Actually I can back it up a little, but only by inference. At various points in the last 4 years or so people were doom posting about humans in AoS and Ironjawz in AoS. People doom posted about Sylvaneth. People doom posted about Skaven and many more. Today, it's all IDK, Beasts of Chaos and Bonesplitterz. I mean, obviously I can't see the future and yes GW does deprecate armies occasionally, but especially nowadays they seem to love revitalization... it just takes time.

I'll counter and say that I loathe Star Wars Legion and a large part of that is its order system. I like alternating activations though (mostly).

My inner Longbeard is grumbling away about this right now

No one ever mentions the slaaneshi stage of children. I had a 2-3 year old of mine once tell my wife (who was feeding our 1 year-old), “Mom, I wish your [apparently you can’t say this word] had more nipples, then they could be a cactus 🌵 “. EDIT: Apparently my three year old knows naughty words according to the censor ☠️

I've got a rumor for y'all today. Comes straight from a dream I had last night plus a few extra ideas I had on them since this morning . I guess technically it's not a rumor per-se or is it???? Fyreslayers - Diabladroth. Thing of a cross between the Diablo 3 incarnation of Diablo and a Magmadroth. It's a 14 wound monster on a 100mm base that stands upright. Salamand Riders. Flying salamander-mounted duardin cavalry. Not as big as stormdrake riders. Lava Gholems. Just fiery gholem-kind. Or something like that... I think. The dream is fuzzy at that point with FS. Kharadron Overlords - Grundstok Pummeler - Think Primaris Invictor Tactical Warsuit, but with the style of Big Daddy from Bioshock. Idk how it plays, but in my dream it came in units of 2 at around 100 points per model. Arkanaut Interceptors... I think - Fuzzy on this one too, but it was basically a 1-man gunhauler. Sorta intrudes on the space of gyrocopters I guess, but I think the idea was that it was a squadron of 3-5 or something. Grundstok Aethermatic Platform - Think Chinese Spy Balloon but with guns. Unmanned floating platform controlled remotely via some techno-aethermatic process. Not as mobile and unable to control objectives or transport anything, but has good guns and maybe a magic dampening field. Aether Gholems. Same as the lava gholems, but all kharadron-y. I know I dreamt about some other factions too, but I can't remember them at all now

I would like to warn you all that they have not yet used my profile pic in any of the marketing/announcements for this event... Primaris Lieutenants are inbound!!

Except Chorfs are coming... eventually. Those steam engines and bulky armored dudes don't move that quickly! Takes even longer when they have to get all the hobgrots moving too!

I just hope they don't simplify 4.0 like they did with 40k 10th ed. I liked many of the 10th ed changes, but at the end of the day it went to far and I just can't get into it. I would hate for AoS to lose that much depth.

Good point, i guess i meant more in the context of CoS because yeah, i doubt witch elves will go anywhere

Yeah, I think at this point if you have any WHFB minis then you should realize their days of use in AoS (other than as proxies) is numbered. EDIT: I don't say this to be a pessimist. I have demis and phoenix temple and wanderers (all painted and everything and I even bought them for AoS; I never played WHFB). I'm not mad about them leaving. It makes sense to me. It also makes sense to me to no longer assume that older minis will stick around for long.

Personally, I’m much more terrified to paint the cavaliers lol. Those things are awesome, but crazy

Even better! In the current CoS warscrolls, the Hurricanum and Luminark hero and non-hero profiles are actually merged onto the same physical warscroll. So instead of taking up 4 slots, they only take up 2 IF they keep doing that the same way with this new book. So there's potential that could be 9 kits.

I want us to start a rumor thread inquisition where we all hunt down false rumors that run against the dogma established by the great Whitefang. Instead of burning them or whatever though, we just spam their posts with confused reactions and scream “Reeee heretic!”

My favorite part of the preview announcement is now my profile picture. It's not that I particularly hate Primaris Lieutenants, but the meme is perfect.