Indecisive Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 It's certainly annoying that literally every chaos faction except Nurgle got endless spells, even Khorne, why the singular exemption. Sure seems like they gave up on them at some undefined point. Seraphon were skipped over but DoK got the last of them somehow early this year. Lumineth got them with battletome 1.0 I think, destruction almost entirely skipped over sans Gitz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Indecisive said: It's certainly annoying that literally every chaos faction except Nurgle got endless spells, even Khorne, why the singular exemption. Sure seems like they gave up on them at some undefined point. Seraphon were skipped over but DoK got the last of them somehow early this year. Lumineth got them with battletome 1.0 I think, destruction almost entirely skipped over sans Gitz. Well, I would trade the Khorne Judgements for a new Battletome without hesitating. In general only few of the Endless Spells see real play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Charleston said: In general only few of the Endless Spells see real play Well, considering how bad some if not most of the endless spell got, while costing double if not quadruple the amount of points, I’m not certain that we will ever see some of those endless spells ever used again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The Endless Spells were/are made in China right? Might explain why Soulblight, Warclans and Nurgle haven't gotten any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Not 100% on if the development timelines match up but certainly endless spells are something that GW are moving away from. Made sense to produce stuff in China to keep up a fast rate of releases while the Nottingham facility was being developed but now international shipping is what it is… I wouldn’t wait for any further endless spells for the factions who missed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I still see no real value in endless spells other than for pure hobby purposes and conversions. 🤷♀️🤷♂️ Maybe if they were better integrated into the game's rules, but also in a way that didn't feel like they were a mandatory purchase like faction terrain, I would like them more. Like an optional spell that when casted had strong effects on the battlefield but prevented the mage from casting an additional spell per turn as they are so focused on controlling the one spell. Then if the mage is killed the spell would then get rules for being a wild spell. All I know is that any and all endless spells that interest me are more for their model than their role as an endless spell. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryPanda Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I like Slaanesh’s endless spells, even though they’re expensive (though everything in HoS is overpriced). They all have their uses, but I like the mirror because it can snipe heroes and do some early board control, or the wheels because they generate early depravity and do decent damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The inconsistency with endless spell started when CoS and Warclans came out, after that every other army release didn’t get them. Ogors, KO, Seraphon, Behemat and Soulblight didn’t have spell while OBR, S2D, Tzeentch, LRL, and DoK had them granted I am not really fuss about endless spell either but I have a feeling they just did do well as a product or a concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) I think it's pretty obvious they realized at some point that they didn't have enough ideas to make 3 endless spells per faction that were worth anything. Why that led to still making 3 for every other faction I don't know. Why not just make 1 for each faction instead and make it actually good and useful? All those "does d3 mortal wounds" endless spells just scream "couldn't think of anything else to do." It seems like a classic example of where model-led design goes wrong - sculptors come up with all these things that the rules designers have no ability to actually do anything with. Well I mean I guess I do know the answer, they need 3 per faction to put them in a box and charge you a pretty penny for them. But that's not a great reason. Edited November 28, 2021 by yukishiro1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indecisive Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 There are also the comically obvious repurposed LoN endless spells that came with Forbidden Power. Endless spells are a neat concept, they really phoned in rules for many. Plus, they stretched the other gimmick out, empowered/twist endless spells with CoS, Seraphon, and now Nurgle soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, yukishiro1 said: I mean I guess I do know the answer, they need 3 per faction to put them in a box and charge you a pretty penny for them. But that's not a great reason. They could have made Endless Spells GA specific instead. This could even retroactively be implemented now, just theme each future trio for 3 different factions inside a GA. Or classic old school take, bundle Ga-specific spells together, even if this would be objectively terrible and end with 2/3 endless spells on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkayestDM Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I think the real question about Endless Spells is: How long will it take GW to realize that they could collect them into a unique faction (Destruction anyone?) I mean, it wouldn't be a good faction, but still . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Indecisive said: It's certainly annoying that literally every chaos faction except Nurgle got endless spells, even Khorne, why the singular exemption. Sure seems like they gave up on them at some undefined point. Seraphon were skipped over but DoK got the last of them somehow early this year. Lumineth got them with battletome 1.0 I think, destruction almost entirely skipped over sans Gitz. And Tzeentch is the only member of the big four with no terrain piece, so I feel ya there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I just cant believe during the height of Endless Spells that the Fist/Foot of Gork/Mork never got models. They are probably the most iconic spells in any Warhammer medium!! I prefer Faction scenery myself and do hope they continue. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indecisive Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: I just cant believe during the height of Endless Spells that the Fist/Foot of Gork/Mork never got models. They are probably the most iconic spells in any Warhammer medium!! I prefer Faction scenery myself and do hope they continue. Perplexing OWC got neither spells nor terrain. Lumineth were the last to get terrain I think. Seems like they might have scuppered them due to problems relating to China as mentioned before. We might see them return if they make them in-house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 KOs need some terrain pieces. Where are our Zonbeks, GW??? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyshadow Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Yes, most of the endless spells are pretty awful looking. There are some really good ones though - the original set of spells are pretty great and I do really like the Beastmen's Direflock one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Prices: Space Marine Shieldbreaker Strike Force £130, €160 Necron Worldscour Legion £130, €160 Ork Killadakka War band £125, €160 Sisters Purgatos Mission £130, €160 AdMech Omnissiahs Talon £125, €160 Soulblight Revenant Legion £130, €160 Hedonites Sybarite Blade-Carnival £130, €160 LRL Vanari Shining Host £130, €160 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 From sources: Cabbage aka Maw Crasha +170 !!!! Pigs aka Gore Gruntas +30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, PrimeElectrid said: From sources: Cabbage aka Maw Crasha +170 !!!! Pigs aka Gore Gruntas +30 OUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said: From sources: Cabbage aka Maw Crasha +170 !!!! Pigs aka Gore Gruntas +30 Maw +70 Gore Grunta +30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmarusvult Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Soulblight Gravelords – Revenant Legion £184.50 $290.00 €230.00 $488.00 Hedonites of Slaanesh – Sybarite Blade-Carnival £196.50 $315.00 €247.50 $523.00 Lumineth Realm-Lords – Vanari Shining Host £199.50 $320.00 €247.50 $530.00 Ossiarch Bonereapers – Mortisan Tithe-Echelon £180.00 $300.00 €235.00 $504.0 If we refer to this table from Faux hammer which shows the total value of the items inside each boxes Then the savings in GBP are : SBG : 54.50£ HoS : £66.50 LRL : £69.50 OBR (if the box is £130) £50 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said: From sources: Cabbage aka Maw Crasha +170 !!!! Pigs aka Gore Gruntas +30 Gordrakk? If he doesnt change that only makes him 10 points more expensive than the Maw-Krusha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Iksdee said: Gordrakk? If he doesnt change that only makes him 10 points more expensive than the Maw-Krusha. Even if he stays the exact same hes not good enough to justify tbh. Its unfortunate when they create named characters with lackluster unique abilities that in no way make up for the lack of a command trait or artefact. He cant even opt for a 3+ base save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenk Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 If only @Whitefang could give us a sign, how prepared should Idoneth be getting for the “one new hero, nothing else, rules cut” treatment… 😩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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