KingBrodd Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: That really stands out to me, too. I find the Underworlds card art really weak in comparison with Magic: The Gathering card art, for example. Mosty it's just depictions of the models exactly as they look in a backgroundless void. I also think the sketchy art style of AoS coupled with the insistence on depicting the models with little artistic freedom super unimpactful. It does not make me excited about the art at all, which is a shame. Because older Warhammer art definitely did manage to get me excited. There is this psychological trap that is really easy to fall into, where the rules of your faction change, a lot of the things you previously identified as exciting or strong don't quite work anymore, and you conclude that the new book must be bad because you can't yet identify the new, excting things the army can do. I fell into that trap myself with the Soulblight book, which is actually a really great book in hindsight. Much better Legions of Nagash by any measure. We have also recently seen the same happen with Stormcast, where a lot of people were sure the book had not competitive play when it was released, and look at it now. I think it's a fairly natural reaction, but we should try to resist it. At least until we have the book in our hands. I agree. The only Underworlds cards I've seen are Blackpowders and boy does that art not look great. In almost every image if you told me Blackpowder was a Duardin instead of an Ogor I would believe you. 7 hours ago, Ledgington said: There’s a Van Denst short story on the BL as part of their annual celebration. It’s pretty good, makes Doralia look like a badass and gives a little flavor as to how the Order of Azry operate. Perhaps more interestingly, it ends with a short extract from ‘Hallowed Ground’. I’m definitely excited to get my hands on that novel now Thanks for heads up mate will definitely be checking this out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: There is this psychological trap that is really easy to fall into, where the rules of your faction change, a lot of the things you previously identified as exciting or strong don't quite work anymore, and you conclude that the new book must be bad because you can't yet identify the new, excting things the army can do. I fell into that trap myself with the Soulblight book, which is actually a really great book in hindsight. Much better Legions of Nagash by any measure. We have also recently seen the same happen with Stormcast, where a lot of people were sure the book had no competitive play when it was released, and look at it now. I think it's a fairly natural reaction, but we should try to resist it. At least until we have the book in our hands. 100% agree with this. Mathammer is awesome, but it's just one jigsaw piece. The whole picture is what it matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Edited February 22, 2022 by Clan's Cynic 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Clan's Cynic said: Soulblight!? Tyranid!? Chaos!? OR... FLESH EATER COURTS!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: Soulblight!? Tyranid!? Chaos!? OR... FLESH EATER COURTS!! Tyranid swings usually aren't so rugged, although that might just be an 'age' thing. Jabberslythe has a similar design, but they're not 'broken' enough compared to the existing model. Vampire/FEC wings don't have the 'hook' end to them, they're usually straight and narrow. My money's on more StD or Daemons (the big 40k leaker said they're coming at some point) since Be'lakor isn't that off in terms of wing design. Edited February 22, 2022 by Clan's Cynic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Clan's Cynic said: Tyranid swings usually aren't so rugged, although that might just be an 'age' thing. Jabberslythe has a similar design, but they're not 'broken' enough compared to the existing model. Vampire/FEC wings don't have the 'hook' end to them, they're usually straight and narrow. Last week’s rumour engine could be the jabberslythe’s tongue. These two rumour engines together really do paint a distinctly Jabberslythe shaped picture. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Clan's Cynic said: Tyranid swings usually aren't so rugged, although that might just be an 'age' thing. Jabberslythe has a similar design, but they're not 'broken' enough compared to the existing model. Vampire/FEC wings don't have the 'hook' end to them, they're usually straight and narrow. My money's on more StD or Daemons (the big 40k leaker said they're coming at some point). Recent Soulblight wings have also been closer to anatomically correct bat wings, while this one seems more like a fantasy "devil wing". I would also guess Chaos, but I am secretly hoping for better FEC Crypt Flayers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah7echo Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Looks kind of similar to the bloodthirster wings. Could be a redone Valkia the Bloody? 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoby Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I'd really like a new daemon prince sculpt (and rules), the current one feels so underwhelming for the pinnacle of Chaos. Would also love it if it was customisable, but I understand that daemon princes are so varied they can't really facilitate all variations so they tend to default to big devil man. Regardless, I'm hoping for a daemon prince! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copywolf Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 My vote is for a Firedrake for Fyreslayers (copium), a Winged Vampire infantry for Soulblight, or a new daemon prince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Pariah7echo said: Looks kind of similar to the bloodthirster wings. Could be a redone Valkia the Bloody? I could see it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I think Valkia could be a good shout, certainly I think it's probably something chaos-y. The flying Tyranid sculpts tend to have smoother wing membranes than that. Looks like a fairly small wing, infantry-sized, so a chaos hero/crypt flayer seems more likely than a monster to me. Outside odds of some sort of Possessed update for Chaos space marines, I guess? I think their current kit has a winged backpack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, KingBrodd said: Soulblight!? Tyranid!? Chaos!? OR... FLESH EATER COURTS!! Or, and just here me out, flying skaven, Yes-yes 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 New Deamon Prince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Valkia the Bloody or a new Jabberslythe seem to be the top pics!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 don't think the size scaling and wing finger length is big enough to be a Jabberscythe, it looks like it for a smaller model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I say demon prince! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Firaun Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Enoby said: I'd really like a new daemon prince sculpt (and rules), the current one feels so underwhelming for the pinnacle of Chaos. Would also love it if it was customisable, but I understand that daemon princes are so varied they can't really facilitate all variations so they tend to default to big devil man. Regardless, I'm hoping for a daemon prince! A new Daemon Prince would be amazing, and a missed opportunity on GW's part given Total War Warhammer III's Godslayer showed just how customizable they can be. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 A new Daemon prince could be cool, i did chuckle at a unit entry once deemed "too customisable" for a specific model now has had so many over the years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 New daemon prince would be great, the plastic one is an unfortunate relic of early work with CAD plastic kits. It’s not the absolute worst but has loads of weird angles and odd details. I think the B&C rumours suggested a daemon release in the works anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said: Okay so that settles THREE rumor engines I believe? This wing, the tongue, and the weird insect leg. They all seem to point towards Jabberslythe which tells us Beasts get some level of refresh with their tome. If it's not Beasts, it seems the model will still be Chaos over anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkK Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Seen this on twitter Edited February 22, 2022 by MarkK Updated text 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 hours ago, JackStreicher said: New Deamon Prince. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 New Valkia would rule. The holes in the wings do look close to those in the plastic bloodthirster. Could still be this jabberslythe but then the existing one has wing-spokes that protrude pretty far, unlike this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoby Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 A few comments on other social media have mentioned Chaos Marine Possessed being a high possibility (something about a leak); while great for CSM players, I can safely say I would be incredibly disappointed! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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