Fyrenn Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Grimrock said: Not sure where the image is coming from, but is there any confirmation on whether normal battalions are legal in matched play? While you're at is - as an addendum, is there a cost to these new battalions? or is it where you more or less just assign your army in them? like an organization chart sort of thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Man, I didn’t like it when Warcry went heavy on all these icons indicating rules and I don’t like it here. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyhedberg Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 so... we will need some more heroes eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: I really like the battalions but Warlord and Command Entourage seem remarkably similar. I can see how the distinction could matter for a few armies but it still feels rather redundant with a few exceptions. If there's some sort of limitation on how many battalions can be fielded (but more than one), then one of those two seems like a much cheaper way to pick up an extra "Enhancement" (I assume command trait, artifact, or extra bonus prayer?!) than the other if you need more than one extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrenn Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, Feorag said: interesting new battalions I'm most interested in "enhancements" do we think this refers to additional relics/equipments from the battletome, or generic ones in the book? It sort of sounds like it could be either or both... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuxxx Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: I really like the battalions but Warlord and Command Entourage seem remarkably similar. I can see how the distinction could matter for a few armies but it still feels rather redundant with a few exceptions. I think that we are missing something as to why you would take one over the other, beyond the few list compositions that feature a number of heroes and monsters/artillery with no basic troops? the one has a / so you probably don't have both abilities. But more importantly if you don't have a high number of troops you might want to tie them up in another battallion and don't have enough to use one for this one. With all the MSU units that will probably be less of an issue though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Fyrenn said: I'm most interested in "enhancements" do we think this refers to additional relics/equipments from the battletome, or generic ones in the book? It sort of sounds like it could be either or both... It also apparently includes access to extra Prayers, if I recall one of the past preview articles correctly. Maybe command traits too, if we're real lucky? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Enhancements kind of sounds like the the things that used to come alongside battalions. Extra mount traits, extra artefacts, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrozatarim Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Where are these photos coming from? Looking at those, if there isn't a points cost attached, that's an interesting trade-off - you can trivially pack your army into a one-drop for many lists, but if you take the other options you can rack up a lot more free CPs or equivalents thereof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 What are the enhancements mentioned in that pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMuphinMan Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: I really like the battalions but 'Warlord' and 'Command Entourage' seem remarkably similar. I can see how the distinction could matter for a few armies but it still feels rather redundant with a few exceptions. I think that we are missing something as to why you would take one over the other, beyond the few list compositions that feature a number of heroes and monsters/artillery with no basic troops? one is "or" for an extra command point/artifact but is just 2 units and any hero while the other is "and" but its 2 heroes with one being less than 10 wounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Vasshpit said: What are the enhancements mentioned in that pic? You know... making stuff... larger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkdragonslayer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, Feorag said: interesting new battalions Oh no it's Warcry all over again with symbols. I hope that is just for the starter set and the real core rule book uses more generic looking symbols. Could it have killed them to do something generic and readable? Crown is commander, fist is sub commander, shield is battleline, vague animal skull is monster, etc.. 4 varieties of little men isn't good for glance value. Also I feel like it may be limiting since not every army has access to 10+ wound heroes to fill this detachment system. Like could Bonesplitterz even use those bigger detachments? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrenn Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheMuphinMan said: one is "or" for an extra command point/artifact but is just 2 units and any hero while the other is "and" but its 2 heroes with one being less than 10 wounds isnt' warlord a commander, subcommander and troop... while the other is a commander and two subcommanders? so they both need one above 10 wounds and one below 10 wounds. the only difference is one adds a troop and more options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbossironteef Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, dirkdragonslayer said: Oh no it's Warcry all over again with symbols. I hope that is just for the starter set and the real core rule book uses more generic looking symbols. Could it have killed them to do something generic and readable? Crown is commander, fist is sub commander, shield is battleline, vague animal skull is monster, etc.. 4 varieties of little men isn't good for glance value. Also I feel like it may be limiting since not every army has access to 10+ wound heroes to fill this detachment system. Like could Bonesplitterz even use those bigger detachments? Its less than 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnumaEilish Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, dirkdragonslayer said: Oh no it's Warcry all over again with symbols. I hope that is just for the starter set and the real core rule book uses more generic looking symbols. Could it have killed them to do something generic and readable? Crown is commander, fist is sub commander, shield is battleline, vague animal skull is monster, etc.. 4 varieties of little men isn't good for glance value. Also I feel like it may be limiting since not every army has access to 10+ wound heroes to fill this detachment system. Like could Bonesplitterz even use those bigger detachments? Commanders don't have to be 10+, sub commanders just can't be 10+. Just so you can't stuff three Ghoul Kings on Beasties into one battalion. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrozatarim Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, dirkdragonslayer said: Oh no it's Warcry all over again with symbols. I hope that is just for the starter set and the real core rule book uses more generic looking symbols. Could it have killed them to do something generic and readable? Crown is commander, fist is sub commander, shield is battleline, vague animal skull is monster, etc.. 4 varieties of little men isn't good for glance value. Also I feel like it may be limiting since not every army has access to 10+ wound heroes to fill this detachment system. Like could Bonesplitterz even use those bigger detachments? As far as I can tell, you don't need 10+ wound characters to fill the Commander slot - any leader can fill that slot. It's just that characters with 10 or more wounds can't fill the Sub-commander slot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernalslayer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 The line says "Battlepack". I assume it should be "Battleplan"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius501 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, Infernalslayer said: The line says "Battlepack". I assume it should be "Battleplan"? If it’s anything like 40K, it’s what they call missions now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkdragonslayer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Acrozatarim said: As far as I can tell, you don't need 10+ wound characters to fill the Commander slot - any leader can fill that slot. It's just that characters with 10 or more wounds can't fill the Sub-commander slot. Ah I misunderstood, my bad then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Infernalslayer said: The line says "Battlepack". I assume it should be "Battleplan"? I think it's different, like the full set of table or tournament rules. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernalslayer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 9 hours ago, CommissarRotke said: do FLGS have a 'separate' stock of Dominion to facilitate preorders? or can they get swiped by scalpers same as us? No idea, i hope they do, though my FLGS is still waiting for my gravelords "Lauka Vai" preorder which they did not receive from their supplier on release date, while they received enough Blood knights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauche Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 The 40K Equivalent has the Missions, some special Rules that apply to those Missions only, and some Terrain recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, PJetski said: Why do I get the feeling a lot of units with a minimum of 5 models are going to go up to 10 minimum when their new Battletome is out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrozatarim Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Seeing other photos popping up elsewhere for battleplans - so battleplans are still a thing as they were before. Battlepacks are presumably the 'here's the set of standard matched play rules' or 'here's the tournament rules' packages of info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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