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Your opponent still has to consider that if they activate a unit affected by Phantasmagoria, there's a 66% chance their target just walks away. Unless its their only remaining choice of unit to fight with, that's a huge risk for them. Phantasmagoria went from Absolute Protection to a 'soft' target unit fights last among enemy units - yeah, its a nerf, but its hardly unplayable. Your opponent has to consider that they're more likely to "fail" the roll than they are to "succeed" on it.

This is not how I "read" this situation at all. Any initial roll with a 6 is highly likely to succeed, meaning she will likely force it to be rerolled, making primal super-casts less likely. By the same token, that's more chances for a 1 in their initial roll (as they're unlikely to have to reroll these as successful). While her ability doesn't interact with primal dice directly, I think its still super valuable.

Seems to me that they gave a minor hike to the elements that were common in the very successful lists pushing slaanesh win rates above median, while pushing down most of the other options to make them more appealing. Meaning if you want to keep running just the meta stuff, you'll need to either drop a unit or pick SOMETHING to swap for the next best thing. My off meta lists I've been running for fun with tons of daemonettes and Shalaxi and such made out well, and can essentially fit another unit Altogether, it all seems pretty reasonable to me.

Accurate. They're essentially a 3+ 3+ shooting unit that is artificially prevented from buffing to better than 2+ 3+.

So uh, I'm not crazy right? RIP Invaders? Not being able to use figureheads more than once or double up on Command Traits - in addition to no unique - what is the point exactly?

No, the Pretenders benefits apply to the model chosen to be your general. Not any model who counts as a general.

I realized I may have been tragically unclear - I wasn't intending to referring to stopping counting DPs, I was referring to opponents starting to accept Temptation Dice and giving up DPs.

Taking Temptation Dice and giving up DPs just because the Slaanesh player hits 36 (edited for clarity) feels like a mistake that people need/are going to stop making. Just because you hit 36, doesn't mean more doesn't matter - being able to summon a unit that is fully buffed is massively better than summoning one that costs the rest of your army buffs. If my last opponent had stopped taking mortals, my advantage would have spiraled rapidly.

I believe this IS the FAQ'd version, taking into account how they adjusted the original version of this ability that appeared on the Megaboss on Mawkrusha at the start of 3e. It's worded the way it is to avoid the issues that arose from having it be multiple commands at once...

It's this interaction, specifically, that convinced me Lord of Pains aura needs to change.

Got my second full game in vs. a kindof skewy STD anvil list. I expected a depravity piñata, that did not work out as I hoped. I recant my previous skepticism about the lord of pain aura needing to be melee only. If it remains as is, LoP needs to skyrocket in price. Also, as much as I love strength of godhood... it may be worth it to hide your pretenders benefits behind Glutos after all. Finally, blissbarbs are a freaking steal. They do so much work. As well, an opponent that refuses to take temptation dice and has no soft targets can make depravity generation a real slog.

Its an entirely unique base size on the Pitched Battles Profiles document, so far as I can tell. With significant rules implications, as it would make them the... only?... cavalry unit in the game with a 25mm wide base that can be fought across. A mistake seems wildly more likely in my experience - and based on past experience with companies, its entirely possible someone is referencing information from an older source, or potentially when the base size was 'updated' previously for the models last release no one remembered to change the 'core' resource or spreadsheet for the unit. Its possible that the 'change' was intended, but that would be... kindof inconsistent with all of the rest of AoS.

Agreed. And the soonest this would possibly be corrected would be with the next Hedonites FAQ and update push to the app. And who knows when that will be. Its not a change that would be in the battlescroll.

My only comment is, I can't imagine not taking Strength of Godhood on an Epitome in a Pretenders list. Its ludicrously good.

I think its hard to describe either BlissSeekers or Slickblades as better, since they both do different things and both do important things. The Seekers synergy with providing extra rend is powerful and obvious for the while army, while the Slickblades may be our best option for reaching out and generating depravity with Euphoric Killers turn one. And they work better together...