The Rumour Thread

[Brush.Addict]

8 hours ago, Hoseman said:

Does the novels posted on the community give us something to think about?? Gotrek is from the world that was so why put him on a novel instead of any other dwarf? I get the novel that featured Neave Blacktalon and the one with darkoath warqueen but why an ancient hero on a Sigmar age novel? Is he going to come again? I think I read somewhere that maybe he and other guy will return but don't know. 

 And for the green guy? Is he bretonian? And for that scourge privateers female?? What a wonderful model for a miniature! It would be cool to see expanded scourge army and maybe that novels give us something like a preview... maybe they will go for legends? New battletomes? Soup battletome for elfs? 

As for Gotrek, in the two books Slayer and Kinslayer they focus on his doom. But it all happens in such a way that it would be possible for him to come back without breaking continuity. I hope he gets a mini

[Malin]

Anyone know if there will be any studio preview during Spiel 2018?

[JPjr]

13 minutes ago, Malin said:

Anyone know if there will be any studio preview during Spiel 2018?

not sure about that but they just announced there will be one at Blood & Glory

"What’s more, we can confirm that Blood & Glory this year will play host to another exciting Studio Preview – replete with exclusive reveals of just what’s to come for Warhammer in the next few months."

[TheWilddog]

7 minutes ago, JPjr said:

not sure about that but they just announced there will be one at Blood & Glory

"What’s more, we can confirm that Blood & Glory this year will play host to another exciting Studio Preview – replete with exclusive reveals of just what’s to come for Warhammer in the next few months."

This is sweet news.  Now we do not have to wait until LVO or AdeptiCon to get some preview action. 

[Chikout]

20 minutes ago, Malin said:

Anyone know if there will be any studio preview during Spiel 2018?

They said there will be some reveals at Speil. Last year it was focused on specialist games and Shadespire. 

I think it is likely we will see that again this year. With 40k getting it's own November event at warhammer world, hopefully we will see a couple of things for AoS at blood and Glory. 

That said, we only saw one Aos mini and one Shadespire warband last year so it is probably wise to manage expectations.

[ManlyMuppet88]

16 minutes ago, Chikout said:

That said, we only saw one Aos mini and one Shadespire warband last year so it is probably wise to manage expectations.

That’s fine. I actually love the Shadespire warband previews, I feel like it gives us some great insight into the direction GW may take with and further army releases.

[Malin]

14 minutes ago, Chikout said:

They said there will be some reveals at Speil. Last year it was focused on specialist games and Shadespire. 

I think it is likely we will see that again this year. With 40k getting it's own November event at warhammer world, hopefully we will see a couple of things for AoS at blood and Glory. 

That said, we only saw one Aos mini and one Shadespire warband last year so it is probably wise to manage expectations.

Thanks for all the answer, saw the Blood & Glory announcement and recalled that someone mentioned Seminar at Spiel too, few pages ago. Wanted to confirm this.

As with all previews, expect nothing, enjoy everything and your life will be less disappointing  - in other words, as @Chikout wrote, manage your expectations.

[bsharitt]

16 hours ago, novakai said:

Ideally I think they should just combined Greenskins and Gitmobs together ( with the Giants and troll ), give them their own battletome, update a few models and make them like the Imperial guards of destruction, Where they have really loose battalion keywords that allows them to ally in with every other Destruction factions without taking up ally points (like the chaos battalion do in BoC) but still be able to play as themselves.

IMO I still think that Spiderfang, Moonclan, and Gutbuster with Maneater (Firebellies?) should get their own Battletome evetually

 

Yeah, I definitely think Moonclan, Ogres and Spiderfang have enough of the right flavor to get their own AoS battletomes(assuming some expansion of spider fangs of course). I wouldn't want to see my Moonclan in a soup tome, though a combo with Spiderfang would be acceptable. I think regular orcs and gitmob might find themselves in the same neglected spot I suspect many of the old high elves will, so a combined tomb with the two of them would be welcomed, though I think that's unlikely since for the past year it seems like anytime GW mentions greenskins they're talking about the all the orcs and goblins except the actual Greenskinz faction. Even the green skins facebook post linked to the Ironjawz start collecting. I can't even remember the last time GW acknowledged the existence of the Greenskinz faction in any media.

[Greasygeek]

On a topic of nothing... just wanna pop in to let everyone know that though I am not posting very often I still very much enjoy this forum, reading rumours and tactic tips as well as silly debates about lore and rules. So please do not delete my account as the latest couple of emails have indicated will happen if I do not post something soon. Will be sure to post random stuff in the future. 

[Warboss Gorbolg]

I feel like there must be some long term plan for Greenskinz, mostly because it would seem very unusual that they have had a Start Collecting set from the beginning, and its still being sold in GW stores.

[bsharitt]

12 minutes ago, Warboss Gorbolg said:

I feel like there must be some long term plan for Greenskinz, mostly because it would seem very unusual that they have had a Start Collecting set from the beginning, and its still being sold in GW stores.

I think they mostly got a Start Collecting box because they had a varied plastic range to choose from. They don't even surface the Start Collecting Greenskinz box (on the US site at least) when you filter by start collecting with no factions selected. I think Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz are GWs future for Orcs. If I were to rank the list of legacy factions by likelyhood of getting expanded into a full AoS faction(think Nighthaunt, DoK, etc) Greenskinz would probably rank at the bottom of my list. Because they still have a decent sized range, I wouldn't be shocked to see them get a battletome(even if it's soup tome with gitmob and other destruction leftovers), but I don't think they'll ever get new stuff. Of current legacy "mini factions" that I could see get expanded with new models(not counting endless spells and a tome like BoC), here's what I wouldn't be surprised to see in order:

Moonclan Grots

Slannesh

Slaves to Darkness

Skaven Soup (this one I think is likely in general for a BoC style tome and spells, but I'm on the fence about new models, but I think we could see a couple)

Free Peoples Soup (basically the same as Skaven, bringing in the mini human factions and maybe Dispossessed)

Soulblight (if they get a standalone book, it will be along side lots of new models)

Spiderfang Grots

Deathrattle(same as Soulblight)

One of the Elf factions (this is really a long shot, but I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the more flavorful ones get expanded, if the unlikely happens, I think it's most likely to happen to Scourge Privateers though DoK may have already sucked up the energy in this space)

And the armies that I don't think will get new models, but may get a book and maybe endless spells:

Skaven Soup (if they above doesn't happen with new models, I think this is basically certain given time)

Ogres (Gutbusters, Firebellies and Maneaters in a BoC style tome)

Wanderers

Dispossessed

Greenskinz with or without Gitmob Grots(if the gross aren't combined, I don't see them getting anything alone).

 

[HollowHills]

I heard something about an Ogor battletome coming sooner rather than later. 

[Infernalslayer]

I would be fine seeing a mixed green soup Battletome for Greenskinz if they got the Beasts of Chaos treatment.

I know Ironjawz have their own lore differentiating them from the classic greenskinz and are most likely the future of the Orcs for Age of Sigmar but i could see them fighting alongside Greenskinz in a great Waagh war.

Thunderscorn, Brayherds and Warherds now all get their own mini bonuses inside a Beast of Chaos army and you can mix them without handicapping yourself or relying on allies like in the past, so a green soup tome could work well for the time being.

Edited October 11, 2018 by Infernalslayer

[Hoseman]

Gw is making a good job by making battletome for old armys with updated rules and maybe endless spells, same as expanding old forgotten ones like DoK... This and the soup battletomes like LoN and BoC opens a nice window for our old unfinished models.

Hope to see more of this next year while we wait for big releases

[Charles]

On 10/1/2018 at 9:03 PM, Charles said:

Well that was awesome, and the leak was certainly a plant. No way they could turn that around in a day.

Turns out I am wrong, on Hang Out & Paint with Peachy & Duncan, Nick confirmed this leaked Spur video was all pulled together in a day!

Bravo that was even more amazing!

[Overread]

Yeah I think it got uploaded in the late evening by UK time which would suggest they worked on it beyond 5pm to get it all done in that day - great bit of work. Then again GW today has a full video setup on site - one thing you can credit them for is that they keep a lot of their business in-house and in the UK. I think its mostly just printing paper and books and card cutouts that gets sent abroad. 

[Zambo]

7 hours ago, Greasygeek said:

On a topic of nothing... just wanna pop in to let everyone know that though I am not posting very often I still very much enjoy this forum, reading rumours and tactic tips as well as silly debates about lore and rules. So please do not delete my account as the latest couple of emails have indicated will happen if I do not post something soon. Will be sure to post random stuff in the future. 

 I’m with Greasygeek don’t want deleting, love the forum. 

However as a destruction player GW are giving us nothing to talk about apart from throwing the odd morsel among the mass of stormcast n chaos releases it’s getting ridiculous and to be frank disheartening. IJ’s should be right up there but are literally being left to rot! 

 

[MitGas]

I don't play Orks and Goblins but I always loved mixed forces of them (a friend of mine played O&G, now Ironjawz) - so I do hope that there will be a decent solution for IJ to ally with Gobbos or something...

[froo]

On 10/11/2018 at 8:32 AM, PlasticCraic said:

However I think they should be included because they don't have the range of warscrolls to be a proper army in their own right

While this is true now, there is potentially room to change that in the same vein as what happened with Nighthaunt. One of the things Spiderfang have going for it is that it's a visually interesting aesthetic and the kits are passable as is (even the spider riders). They would be nice to get an upgrade, but its not needed really.

 

 Armies don't typically need a deep number of Warscrolls to be interesting. Look at Idoneth Deepkin, they have a limited number of Warscrolls but the customisation comes in other forms. The same treatment could be given to  spiderfang  since they already have 5 warscrolls. They could beef up the damage of the Artillery configuration and bump up the points of it, similarly they could drop the points of the unequipped Spider and there would be some actual choice in there rather than shamans being the default choice. There is even the potential to making the big boss into 2 warscrolls so 1 is more combat oriented and the other being more support and using the same model.

 

As for what type of units? Well just off the top of my head, they can do swarm bases, infantry in the form of forest goblins, herder type models with midsize spiders, additional types of artillery (I'm thinking spear chukka type weapons mounted on midsize spiders). They could get away with doing that with only 2 kits (the swarm bases could be included in the infantry boxes in the same way that necrons get scarabs).

 

Plus, there are also plenty of additional things that could be done to push out a release. They could be given their own spell lore (which would be cool), perhaps some sort of marker system where you place X markers before the game starts and that simulates webs being deployed that potentially slows movement in that area and I think that is a good enough starting point for an interesting list. They can also potentially run different types of clans that utilise different spider breeds.

 

Anyway, thats just a stupid rant, but I think there is some potential there for a more elite style goblin force.

[PlasticCraic]

@froo well you have more than convinced me, let's see Battletome Spiderfang Grots asap!

Sounds awesome...you could also have the Web Flinga as its own warcsroll (just put in an extra oval base in the Arachnarok kit, loads of people used to do that as a kit bashed Rock Lobba under GH17 anyway).  With debuffs instead of damage (e.g. roll one dice to charge?).

There is also the opportunity for half spider / half gobbo mutants.  I'm not the biggest fan of the models from Silver Tower but that's basically what they were.  And they were in that cartoon recently so they are still on the radar.

If their warscrolls get updated, hopefully the Venom would trigger on an unmodified 6, or an unmodified 5 with the CA.

I don't think it'll happen any time soon (sorry) but it definitely could.  Sounds awesome.

PS I take it you are the same Froo who had planned on taking Spiderfang to Blue Dragon GT in Melbourne?  I'm sure I'll be seeing you around the traps!

Edited October 12, 2018 by PlasticCraic

[Fisher KIng]

I think it was suggested a while ago on Warhammer weekly that you could use the different style spiders from the sider rider box to make different units. The skull backs being more about poison but then some of the others being different types. A trap door spider with a ambush style deployment, a web spitter having something like the moon clan netters -1. that kind of thing. I could be done with no need of new kits. I not saying I don't want new kits but I am just trying to be realistic. If Spiderfang where to get a Battle tome I think we would have to see a plastic Big boss.

Having said all that I don't think we will see this soon. I think Moon clan are coming next and I'm happy for that. Grot are great even if it's not my flavour of Grots. I am holding out hope that they double down on the centipede astatic from the Fungoid cave shaman and we get some kind of giant bugs which will have a Braggoth's style battalon with Spiderfang. Just something to make them a little bit more competitive. Maybe we will get some love in GHB 2019.  

[froo]

50 minutes ago, PlasticCraic said:

PS I take it you are the same Froo who had planned on taking Spiderfang Blue Dragon GT in Melbourne?  I'm sure I'll be seeing you around the traps!

Yep that's me.

[froo]

35 minutes ago, Fisher KIng said:

If Spiderfang where to get a Battle tome I think we would have to see a plastic Big boss. 

I would actually like to see a theoretical plastic giant spider kit come with a posable giant spider and several options - say a character, a spear chukka type weapon or a couple of dudes on back and make it sort of a heavy cavalry model and make the spider riders sort of light cav.

 

Perhaps someone smarter than me could figure out how to make the torso's the same for the models and make the arm/head swaps and spear chukka the only real big customisation options. I am in no way qualified to figure this out.

[PlasticCraic]

1 hour ago, Fisher KIng said:

I am holding out hope that they double down on the centipede astatic from the Fungoid cave shaman and we get some kind of giant bugs which will have a Braggoth's style battalon with Spiderfang. Just something to make them a little bit more competitive. Maybe we will get some love in GHB 2019.  

That's a really good shout, I'd love to see a Braggoth's style batallion.

[alghero81]

It’s probably off topic from the Rumours thread but the Nighthaunt treatment was probably exaggerated (and I’m talking as a Nighthaunt collector pre-LoN). 

As a GW customer and fan I would rather see expansion on the current armies and the odd new army here and there with maybe less models but more thematic. And “fix” or merge the old world factions that didn’t get love until now.

But most importantly what I would like is to discorporate the “new model only when battletome is updated and cards are printed” system as this way we know many armies will take ages to be updated as they can’t have a mixed release (e.g. a release with single models for different factions). If the card was the problem I would even not mind pay a reasonable price for custom printing for all those not included in the “card pack” or an update pack for all new ones every year.

but I guess it’s more about marketing strategies...

end rant and hoping to see new exciting things for everyone next year! Happy people make happy gaming