MitGas

I agree with you there. The Witcher had a lot of problems but most of them are down to the showrunner and the writers at least from what various sites report. Not sticking with its lore backfired, adding your own themes into it because you don‘t like the established IP and saying that bluntly is a surefire way to invoke the ire of fans of the franchise. Then the story was simply badly presented, like 75% of all viewers were extremely confused by the way the first season was set up with the different timelines, so that‘s objectively bad writing on their part. Then you had a ton of strange casting choices that did not reflect the characters or Slavic tone of it which some took offense to. Or the various stories of the showrunner wanting to turn things like Roach‘s death into comedy. Some of the people working on it did not respect the material and naturally they didn‘t get a medal for it. Since its writing is also objectively shoddy at times, the backlash by fans, especially Cavill, was predestined. Without him it would probably feel even less like it should. Note: I only played two of the games and do not know the books, so me saying that they messed up some of the casting/story beats is referencing what longtime fans say. The bad/confusing writing is what I‘ve seen reported by casual fans and with my own eyes. What makes me wonder however: not a single soul cared for all these things in regards to Dune. Nobody needed diversity there, no gender-swapping or whatever and in turn people did not mind any changes. If characters got changed (I don’t know enough about it to list many examples), nobody said anything. I figure Chani got race-swapped if I remember correctly and there simply was no discussion. Why was there no discussion of all these things with that? I think it‘s always down to how you do it. If you don‘t „force“ it on people, make it clear that the people working on the adaptation are actually respectful fans and don‘t really use it as a statement that rubs one of the camps the wrong way, then ultimately people will not complain or care. Probably helps that the actress is very likable. But I stand by my point that pressure creates counter-pressure and almost all of it down to how things get communicated. Which brings me full-circle to Custodes - if they handled the introduction of female Custodes better, I think nobody would‘ve cared much. They handled it badly it seems and probably half of the fandom still doesn‘t care anyways. It‘s not Spees Mahrines, where I understand that such a change would be too much. We can be really glad that Stormcast have girls since day 1, if AoS should ever get a show, at least these things will be of zero concern. I agree with you (unfortunately) that GW is still 40k. I‘m currently more invested into AoS as I find 40k‘s ruleset to be a lot worse but 40k made GW big and pretending otherwise is possible but doesn‘t reflect the numbers. Anyways, I think I raised some points, sone might find them good, lots of others will post confused/disapproving reactions, it‘s all good. I certainly don‘t care about Custodes enough to get blisters on my fingers. They‘re just clowns with Lumineth-like helmets following the False Emperor and frankly I don‘t see them as the optimal introduction to the world of 40k either. It‘s like using Varanguard (the one circle that’s staying always close to Archaon) to introduce AoS. If I had a wish: make at least one Custodes oiled up and dance and be a degenerate that would make Slaanesh proud. And don‘t make that particular one a girl cause else we got real discussion if she‘s oiled up just wearing a string and her helmet. 😂🤣😂

No idea, I feel like a show with lots of Custodes sounds like it would be a sitcom in the Emperor‘s palace as they‘re not exactly the kind of force that travels the galaxy… but perhaps they will feature heavily to make Cavill happy? Maybe they go the Altered Carbon route with having an outsider like an Inquisitor come into the setting and that just happens to be somewhere where Custodes are present?

I read he got hired but don‘t know if he still works there or what he worked on. It wouldn‘t surprise me if he didn‘t get the appreciation he should be getting in the corpo world though. Seen that happen with lots of artists unfortunately.

Well, the Nintendo line is the guy obviously taking the ****** outta it. I just summarized what I‘ve seen on YT. I think Fallout has been a decent adaption, I‘m not a huge Fallout fan bit played some of the games and that show gave me hope for 40k. The single one comment in all the debate that really annoyed me on Youtube was that Fallout‘s Brotherhood of Steel was the inspiration for GW. 😂

I feel like they should just ask the Astartes guy to pitch something. A single creator managed to pull off something really unique with tons of cool scenes/visuals.

Would‘ve been just as dumb but it‘s pretty clear Sisters of Silence were the female equivalent (broadly speaking) to Custodes, so the Custodes move is all in all pretty damn dumb as well. Main problem I see (and I personally don‘t care too much about Custodes, for me they‘re the flaming homosexuals from If The Emperor Had A Text-To-Speech-Device as that was just too funny, so that‘s my headcanon and I don‘t want any other) is that fans IMO really overreact cause people are sick of the whole woke thing and usually it doesn‘t stop at just one change which makes them fear that it won’t be adapted well and the pro-female-Custodes side not acknowledging that the preference for a Custodes boy‘s club is valid in some ways, because they were always portrayed that way and simply instead use the typical killer arguments that those who dislike the change are right-wingers, misogynistic or behind the times. Youtube is a battlefield right now with a lot of the content creators hating on it and very few thinking it‘s good, it‘s definitely very negative for GW and Amazon. There‘s also a rumor that Henry Cavill hates it so much he might drop out of the show as it reminds him of the whole Witcher fiasco but not sure if there is any truth to it. Apparently Amazon asked for female Custodes for the show. I‘m here and just thinking that I‘m glad I got no real stakes in this and that the obvious solution would‘ve been one of the Sisters (Battle or Silence, although I’d prefer more Sisters of Silence stuff) but w/e. But it‘s best to not discuss it here further as you‘ve got two groups of people in the fandom and neither will get convinced by the other anyways. I just hope this won‘t have too much of a negative impact and will tell everyone that is working on adaptions to view the lore as sacred. While this particular issue doesn‘t bother me (I don‘t like it either however, I‘m just ambivalent mostly, I wouldn‘t want other aspects to get changed just to make it more appealing to the boring masses. I‘d be instantly out if the Imperium was a nice place for example or similar totally wrong stuff. I‘d also be rotating in my chair if we got female Spees mahrines like this tho, not gonna lie! 🤣 They should‘ve introduced the idea through the lore, like with Primaris IMO.

I gotta be honest with you; I think Skaven is a great (and at the moment the likeliest!) guess but these RE images are so often misleading that it could also be Nighthaunt, some WarCry warband, Hobgrots or anything/anyone else that got some dinged up equipment. Since I think all these options are less likely in the near future, logic dictates Skaven. But watch me being wrong with my reasoning and it's for a new hero called Stinky Joe, a total loser Kharadron Overlord that uses oil-bombs and can't keep his equipment and personal hygiene in order.

Yeah, I think you‘re onto something. It would certainly fit visually!

So you just want it to become more like Tzeentch? 🤭 Can't say I disagree with that!

I take it the other interesting folders on your computer do Slaanesh proud? Or is that just me?

Sometimes a little break is exactly what's best. Do things at your own pace. I agree that 3rd ed kinda sucked, I'm having high hopes for 4th though but I understand the bad feeling you have going into that after losing Bonesplitterz and who knows what will happen with Spiderfang. Terrain building/painting, painting something unrelated or enjoying other hobbies a bit more for some time are all decent options. I know nobody that doesn't take a bit time off of the hobby. I think that while it's fun, building an army is work in a way, it's not an "easy" hobby like playing video games or watching Netflix. If someone plays an instrument or paints in his spare time, they also sometimes neglect that hobby only to come back to it, there's always a certain thrive in people that pick artistic hobbies. Don't stress yourself, Warhammer has a habit of pulling people back in anyways, sometimes after 10+ years but they almost all return. 👌 From my personal experience I can just say that working on things where you don't have to challenge yourself too hard, like painting terrain pieces or simple units OR painting something you don't feel ready for yet like your favorite minis and then putting in even more work has worked for me personally.

Wwell, we found the one person outside GW's media team who's thrilled for Kroot

I can't add anything to the discussion but damn are these handsome minis!

I don‘t think a range extension for daemons is likely, they are pretty complete overall, especially because each God has to have basic troops and specialists so there is little room for more. Doesn‘t mean that there won‘t be anything new but I think that‘s more along the lines of a unit here or there. The only way they would really introduce a bunch of kits would be by making more unaligned daemons and while we saw some of those in HH, I‘m not sure they gonna go in that direction on a bigger scale. Unaligned daemons would be the most „standard“ cookie cutter daemons and since GW wants to make their IP more unique than less unique, I doubt such a move. Perhaps the Malerion faction will get something daemon-like, they‘re said to lean into shadow-daemon/draconic themes. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Adding to this, I don‘t like that the strongest chars are always the centerpiece minis. I know, it‘s cinematic but I like when a hero doesn‘t need to ride something in order to be a true menace. It really does the supposed power of some heroes a complete disservice. There are very few exceptions like the Warboss or some FEC hero but Chaos heroes feel too weak in general, can‘t speak for Vamps now but they used to be extremely strong back in WHFB as well. It‘s kinda like with grots being so deadly en masse that they make very short work of Chaos Warriors which does not represent those units well, in old WHFB 60 grots wouldn‘t have killed a unit of twenty CWs in a round or two. I don‘t know a solution but I wish they could reflect the background better with their rules in some cases. Not something that ruins anything for me but it‘s sad that our heroes aren‘t really cool anymore. I don‘t want to field named chars! I want my own heroes/villains. 🤗

Sorry, guys! I don‘t feel bad for it, I got promoted to Daemon Prince for sowing discord among the Sigmarites! Now I‘ve got a sexy beak and a third arm to scratch my butt! 👌🏻

Ok, thanks for shedding some light on it. I don‘t know a lot about Custodes, only the blurbs from HH before they became their own force in 40k, I roll with Chaos after all. Anyways, if they aren‘t as set in stone as marines then this feels much less like a betrayal in regards to the established lore, which is good.

You are way too reasonable for this hobby, mate! 🤣

While I don‘t have a problem with it per se, I just don‘t understand it - we got Sisters of Battle and Sisters of Silence (who are just as cool as Custodes imo), so why change firmly established lore? But thankfully I don‘t really care - I think GW will have a huge backlash if they add women to Space Marines retroactively. They could add them just like they added Primaris. I don‘t want really need or want female Spees Marines, we got Sisters (will we get Brothers of Battle too?) but why not make it in a way that doesn‘t change the IP‘s history? I think it‘s very unfair to say Warhammer doesn‘t have enough cool female forces/options, so I don‘t get it. We got badass female-only stuff, lots of mixed forces like Eldar, then we got one of everything with Slaanesh, so why chose this approach? So my wish is to integrate it well, precisely what GW isn‘t doing. 😂

The design of the iron golems wouldn‘t be too bad for chaos dwarfs either I think… the ones in armor, obviously not the ones with tall hats (I want at least one with a tall hat!). In other news, the whole Custodes thing is really generating a huge backlash now that GW said there always were female Custodes, even the large streamers like Asmongold (is that how you spell it?) talk about it. I know, I know, a bit off-topic here but still an interesting topic. You can find the poopstorm on YT if you care!

Yeah, that’s fair, I get that. I’d be super pissed if I collected one of those factions and frankly it’s a crappy move to put it nicely. But hasn‘t much to do with the rules previews per se, which seem decent so far. GW screwed up by turning part of factions into their own factions at first and keeping others around when they didn‘t have the will to support them long-term. I just think they had to cause else the nuking of WHFB would‘ve been even worse.

For me they certainly always have been but after the wonderful time of the extremely broken Chaos codex, they were extremely underpowered for ages in the next codex. That was the time when I played 40k the most. I didn‘t care, I‘m not into Warhammer for winning my games (doesn‘t hurt tho), I enjoy losing as well, but it was certainly strange to suddenly field a really good army that often competed for the top spot with AoS‘s DoT! 😂 Going back to 40k is hard though now… the AoS rules are simply more fun to me. Still hoping that Teamkill will become better so that I can scratch that itch as well.

Same here! I really thought AoS 3 was a downgrade compared to 2nd ed as it just felt like that with some extra rules slapped on and 4 looks to change quite a bit for the better as they really went back to square one and rethought some things. Ultimately I‘d like a simple game with room for some tactical play in there and so far 4th seems to deliver that. Too soon to say for sure, none of us have played 4th but I really like what I see. I don‘t even care if Tzeentch got way weaker in the overall ranking, we‘ve been among the best for ages anyways (almost as long among the best in AoS as Thousand Sons were the absolute worst in 40k before they got their own codex 😂) bit I want simple, good rules cause my group is lazy as heck. AoS 3.0 killed their enthusiasm and I don‘t want more or new friends! 😁

Yeah, that sounds seriously cool for mage-heavy forces. Wizards will get much more utility… unless all spell lores suck. 😆

Btw: Why am I the only optimistic one here? I hate goody two-shoes and if magic sucks, my army will get hit the hardest! 😂