The Rumour Thread

[madmac]

39 minutes ago, EntMan said:

 

Super duper unlikely I know, but these wings just make me think Phoenix Eagle Chariot!

I've honestly been thinking this too recently. Remember that when these images were posted community was hinting that it was some big thing. Doesn't seem remotely 40K, or destruction or death or chaos particularly. Feels like Order, but with a new aesthetic. Why not a new winged flying ship for Dawnbringers? And who better to fly such a thing but our intrepid Postmen of the Mortal Realms...

[JerekKruger]

49 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Neat article about someone's grimdark Cities project.

Those wouldn't look out of place in a Mordheim game (well, maybe the Yndrasta conversion, but otherwise).

[KingBrodd]

53 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Neat article about someone's grimdark Cities project.

Absolutely stunning, I adore this paint style.

[MitGas]

5 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

Absolutely stunning, I adore this paint style.

I dunno why but it feels like it would fit into Mordheim. it's got that particular kind of vibe. I really hope we'll get an update to that one day, ideally with enough freedom to use some of the AOS or Warcry minis.

[CityDumper]

Heard these from a friend, take with an ocean of salt.

Releases 2023

January
S2D full release

Beast of Chaos:
New Beastlord
No other new models
Some resin kits may get range rotated (not 100%)

General's Handbook with big (bone?) Spider

February
Gloomspite Gitz:
Snarlfang Riders
Gitmob hero
Snarlfang Chariot with shaman option
Sylvaneth-size release
Completely reworked Bad Moon: constant passive effect with chance to wane/wax depending on amount of friendly losses

March
Seraphon:
New "big dino" with magic structure on top
Kroxigors
Razordon/Salamander Pack dual kit (2 bigger lizards)
Saurus Guard with leader options
More Azyr looking Saurus Sunblood/Eternity Warden?

April
Blades of Khorne vs Hedonites box (again)
New single Hedonite foot hero
New single Khorne foot hero (named?)

May
Flesh-eater Courts:
"Court wizard" shaman
New "mid-size" ghouls (Melee/Ranged)

Ossiarch Bonereapers:
New Mortisan (manipulates enemy units)

June
Cities of Sigmar (before 40k 10th edition):
"Azyrite" = new units, not subfaction (calling them this for simplicity/lack of details)

Azyrite Guard (Halberd/Small weapon (mace, sword, axe) options)
Azyrite Gunners ("Musketeers", special option for hand cannon with shield (bigger base like Skitarii))
Azyrite Knights (Regular Knight/Outrider dual kit)
Azyrite Elite (think new Greatswords/Mace, Sword, Hammer options, big armour)
Azyrite Ogors (Chunky armour, big halberd + option for pistol for leader)
Azyrite General (Sculpted base, mix of Elite, Gunner and Guard aesthetics but fancier)
Azyrite Mage (One mini, many options)
Azyrite Priest (Big Fantasy Warrior Priest aesthetic, think that big Dawnbringer picture from core book)
Flagellants (More grimdark, less flamehead/not-carried chains)
Azyrite Artillery (New spin on Helblaster/Helstorm + regular cannon. One duardin crew member)
Azyrite Walker (Vaguely similar to Steam Tank/Gyrocopter. Think 40k Sentinel but more Steampunk + AoS)
Azyrite General on big beast (Centerpiece, option for named hero)

All current human kits cut except for Steam Tank
All Wanderers cut
Duardin/non-human Ironweld fine
Darkling Covens cut back (no basic infantry) + combined with Shadowblades (Shadow Warriors cut)
Privateers/Order Serpentis combined and slightly trimmed (no chariot)

Big Dawnbringer Crusade Path to Glory section in BT

August
Kharadron Overlords:
New foot hero (record keeper/accountant looking)

September
Soulblight Gravelords:
New Necromancer
New Grave Guard/Skeleton crossbows dual kit

[Lucentia]

That feels like a lot of stuff to squeeze out in half a year, particularly for Seraphon that seems like wishlisting, but as far as rumours go I could believe most of that list being plausible, sure.

[Aleser]

This is must be real as BC doesnt get more then foot hero. Other looks too good to be true 😁

Edited December 14, 2022 by Aleser

[Asbestress]

3 minutes ago, Lucentia said:

That feels like a lot of stuff to squeeze out in half a year, particularly for Seraphon that seems like wishlisting, but as far as rumours go I could believe most of that list being plausible, sure.

Apart from that looking suspect, it would surprise me to get even a single duardin for Cities

[Draznak]

1 minute ago, Aleser said:

Other looks too good to be true 😁

This is the word (God knows if I still wish this list was true).

According to the AoS 2023 roadmap, there is only one BT (Order) for the summer. But that makes two. In principle, I would tend to trust an official communication channel more...

[Grungnisson]

15 minutes ago, CityDumper said:

Heard these from a friend, take with an ocean of salt.

Releases 2023

January
S2D full release

Beast of Chaos:
New Beastlord
No other new models
Some resin kits may get range rotated (not 100%)

General's Handbook with big (bone?) Spider

February
Gloomspite Gitz:
Snarlfang Riders
Gitmob hero
Snarlfang Chariot with shaman option
Sylvaneth-size release
Completely reworked Bad Moon: constant passive effect with chance to wane/wax depending on amount of friendly losses

March
Seraphon:
New "big dino" with magic structure on top
Kroxigors
Razordon/Salamander Pack dual kit (2 bigger lizards)
Saurus Guard with leader options
More Azyr looking Saurus Sunblood/Eternity Warden?

April
Blades of Khorne vs Hedonites box (again)
New single Hedonite foot hero
New single Khorne foot hero (named?)

May
Flesh-eater Courts:
"Court wizard" shaman
New "mid-size" ghouls (Melee/Ranged)

Ossiarch Bonereapers:
New Mortisan (manipulates enemy units)

June
Cities of Sigmar (before 40k 10th edition):
"Azyrite" = new units, not subfaction (calling them this for simplicity/lack of details)

Azyrite Guard (Halberd/Small weapon (mace, sword, axe) options)
Azyrite Gunners ("Musketeers", special option for hand cannon with shield (bigger base like Skitarii))
Azyrite Knights (Regular Knight/Outrider dual kit)
Azyrite Elite (think new Greatswords/Mace, Sword, Hammer options, big armour)
Azyrite Ogors (Chunky armour, big halberd + option for pistol for leader)
Azyrite General (Sculpted base, mix of Elite, Gunner and Guard aesthetics but fancier)
Azyrite Mage (One mini, many options)
Azyrite Priest (Big Fantasy Warrior Priest aesthetic, think that big Dawnbringer picture from core book)
Flagellants (More grimdark, less flamehead/not-carried chains)
Azyrite Artillery (New spin on Helblaster/Helstorm + regular cannon. One duardin crew member)
Azyrite Walker (Vaguely similar to Steam Tank/Gyrocopter. Think 40k Sentinel but more Steampunk + AoS)
Azyrite General on big beast (Centerpiece, option for named hero)

All current human kits cut except for Steam Tank
All Wanderers cut
Duardin/non-human Ironweld fine
Darkling Covens cut back (no basic infantry) + combined with Shadowblades (Shadow Warriors cut)
Privateers/Order Serpentis combined and slightly trimmed (no chariot)

Big Dawnbringer Crusade Path to Glory section in BT

August
Kharadron Overlords:
New foot hero (record keeper/accountant looking)

September
Soulblight Gravelords:
New Necromancer
New Grave Guard/Skeleton crossbows dual kit

So where's the other Spring Order battletome then?

Sticking to my guns for now, of KO being the first next Order book to come out.

[Chikout]

Just now, Draznak said:

This is the word (God knows if I still wish this list was true).

According to the AoS 2023 roadmap, there is only one BT (Order) for the summer. But that makes two. In principle, I would tend to trust an official communication channel more...

One book announced for early summer doesn't preclude the possibility of more books coming in late summer. There's a lot of detail here but not really anything massively surprising. 12 kits for cities is about what I'd expect them to get. The Gloomspite got 14 kits back it 2019. I'm expecting a Gloomspite hero but a chariot would be bit of a surprise. Given Whitefang's hints, I would have expected the size of the FEC and Seraphon releases to be flipped. 

Single heroes for Slaanesh and Khorne are entirely plausible and this is what makes me suspicious. If someone asked me to invent a release list for 2023, this is more or less what I'd come up with. 

[Asbestress]

6 minutes ago, Draznak said:

This is the word (God knows if I still wish this list was true).

According to the AoS 2023 roadmap, there is only one BT (Order) for the summer. But that makes two. In principle, I would tend to trust an official communication channel more...

As unlikely as this list is, I think we could see more than 1 BT in the Summer. GW isn't famous for exhaustive roadmaps...

[Whitefang]

25 minutes ago, CityDumper said:

Heard these from a friend, take with an ocean of salt.

Releases 2023

January
S2D full release

Beast of Chaos:
New Beastlord
No other new models
Some resin kits may get range rotated (not 100%)

General's Handbook with big (bone?) Spider

February
Gloomspite Gitz:
Snarlfang Riders
Gitmob hero
Snarlfang Chariot with shaman option
Sylvaneth-size release
Completely reworked Bad Moon: constant passive effect with chance to wane/wax depending on amount of friendly losses

March
Seraphon:
New "big dino" with magic structure on top
Kroxigors
Razordon/Salamander Pack dual kit (2 bigger lizards)
Saurus Guard with leader options
More Azyr looking Saurus Sunblood/Eternity Warden?

April
Blades of Khorne vs Hedonites box (again)
New single Hedonite foot hero
New single Khorne foot hero (named?)

May
Flesh-eater Courts:
"Court wizard" shaman
New "mid-size" ghouls (Melee/Ranged)

Ossiarch Bonereapers:
New Mortisan (manipulates enemy units)

June
Cities of Sigmar (before 40k 10th edition):
"Azyrite" = new units, not subfaction (calling them this for simplicity/lack of details)

Azyrite Guard (Halberd/Small weapon (mace, sword, axe) options)
Azyrite Gunners ("Musketeers", special option for hand cannon with shield (bigger base like Skitarii))
Azyrite Knights (Regular Knight/Outrider dual kit)
Azyrite Elite (think new Greatswords/Mace, Sword, Hammer options, big armour)
Azyrite Ogors (Chunky armour, big halberd + option for pistol for leader)
Azyrite General (Sculpted base, mix of Elite, Gunner and Guard aesthetics but fancier)
Azyrite Mage (One mini, many options)
Azyrite Priest (Big Fantasy Warrior Priest aesthetic, think that big Dawnbringer picture from core book)
Flagellants (More grimdark, less flamehead/not-carried chains)
Azyrite Artillery (New spin on Helblaster/Helstorm + regular cannon. One duardin crew member)
Azyrite Walker (Vaguely similar to Steam Tank/Gyrocopter. Think 40k Sentinel but more Steampunk + AoS)
Azyrite General on big beast (Centerpiece, option for named hero)

All current human kits cut except for Steam Tank
All Wanderers cut
Duardin/non-human Ironweld fine
Darkling Covens cut back (no basic infantry) + combined with Shadowblades (Shadow Warriors cut)
Privateers/Order Serpentis combined and slightly trimmed (no chariot)

Big Dawnbringer Crusade Path to Glory section in BT

August
Kharadron Overlords:
New foot hero (record keeper/accountant looking)

September
Soulblight Gravelords:
New Necromancer
New Grave Guard/Skeleton crossbows dual kit

well educated guess

[EntMan]

Wanderers, wandered off... ☹️

[EntMan]

Just now, Whitefang said:

well educated guess

Oh Whitefang the Great, how about a like or a sad reaction specific to the non humans in Cities bit? Please?

[Whitefang]

1 minute ago, EntMan said:

Oh Whitefang the Great, how about a like or a sad reaction specific to the non humans in Cities bit? Please?

It's complex，we better wait until GW reveal itself

[EntMan]

2 minutes ago, Whitefang said:

It's complex，we better wait until GW reveal itself

[madmac]

52 minutes ago, CityDumper said:

Heard these from a friend, take with an ocean of salt.

Releases 2023

January
S2D full release

Beast of Chaos:
New Beastlord
No other new models
Some resin kits may get range rotated (not 100%)

General's Handbook with big (bone?) Spider

February
Gloomspite Gitz:
Snarlfang Riders
Gitmob hero
Snarlfang Chariot with shaman option
Sylvaneth-size release
Completely reworked Bad Moon: constant passive effect with chance to wane/wax depending on amount of friendly losses

March
Seraphon:
New "big dino" with magic structure on top
Kroxigors
Razordon/Salamander Pack dual kit (2 bigger lizards)
Saurus Guard with leader options
More Azyr looking Saurus Sunblood/Eternity Warden?

April
Blades of Khorne vs Hedonites box (again)
New single Hedonite foot hero
New single Khorne foot hero (named?)

May
Flesh-eater Courts:
"Court wizard" shaman
New "mid-size" ghouls (Melee/Ranged)

Ossiarch Bonereapers:
New Mortisan (manipulates enemy units)

June
Cities of Sigmar (before 40k 10th edition):
"Azyrite" = new units, not subfaction (calling them this for simplicity/lack of details)

Azyrite Guard (Halberd/Small weapon (mace, sword, axe) options)
Azyrite Gunners ("Musketeers", special option for hand cannon with shield (bigger base like Skitarii))
Azyrite Knights (Regular Knight/Outrider dual kit)
Azyrite Elite (think new Greatswords/Mace, Sword, Hammer options, big armour)
Azyrite Ogors (Chunky armour, big halberd + option for pistol for leader)
Azyrite General (Sculpted base, mix of Elite, Gunner and Guard aesthetics but fancier)
Azyrite Mage (One mini, many options)
Azyrite Priest (Big Fantasy Warrior Priest aesthetic, think that big Dawnbringer picture from core book)
Flagellants (More grimdark, less flamehead/not-carried chains)
Azyrite Artillery (New spin on Helblaster/Helstorm + regular cannon. One duardin crew member)
Azyrite Walker (Vaguely similar to Steam Tank/Gyrocopter. Think 40k Sentinel but more Steampunk + AoS)
Azyrite General on big beast (Centerpiece, option for named hero)

All current human kits cut except for Steam Tank
All Wanderers cut
Duardin/non-human Ironweld fine
Darkling Covens cut back (no basic infantry) + combined with Shadowblades (Shadow Warriors cut)
Privateers/Order Serpentis combined and slightly trimmed (no chariot)

Big Dawnbringer Crusade Path to Glory section in BT

August
Kharadron Overlords:
New foot hero (record keeper/accountant looking)

September
Soulblight Gravelords:
New Necromancer
New Grave Guard/Skeleton crossbows dual kit

This reads to me like what someone who has been playing very close attention to rumor engines and similar things would come up with, so l would not be surprised if parts of it are accidentally correct setting aside Whitefang saying more or less the same thing.

[Vasshpit]

53 minutes ago, CityDumper said:

February
Gloomspite Gitz:
Snarlfang Riders
Gitmob hero
Snarlfang Chariot with shaman option

Weeeee!!!!

53 minutes ago, CityDumper said:

September
Soulblight Gravelords:
New Necromancer
New Grave Guard/Skeleton crossbows dual kit

Weeeeee x2!!!!

[Gitzdee]

Quote

February
Gloomspite Gitz:
Snarlfang Riders
Gitmob hero
Snarlfang Chariot with shaman option

Quote

well educated guess

Quote

September
Soulblight Gravelords:
New Necromancer
New Grave Guard/Skeleton crossbows dual kit

Guess i'll start applying for a second job.

Also no news on Demigryph knights/ Griffon models? They are still my favourites from CoS.

Edited December 14, 2022 by Gitzdee

[KarrWolves]

FAQs for Ogor and Slaves to Darkness are up

[Nezzhil]

41 minutes ago, Whitefang said:

It's complex，we better wait until GW reveal itself

and Gitz? I want to know! The Moon is not answering me!

[OkayestDM]

Definitely taking the new rumors with a health helping of salt. That said, if the "Azyrite" rumor is true, I'm interested.

Edited December 14, 2022 by OkayestDM
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[Maddpainting]

1 hour ago, Aleser said:

This is must be real as BC doesnt get more then foot hero. Other looks too good to be true 😁

Literally what I said lol. 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Maddpainting

[Sahrial]

Re- Ogor faq: beastriders got their second weapon back as expected but is still a welcome clarification.