The Rumour Thread

[Twisted Firaun]

17 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Skaven may exchange a voucher for x1 free drink at the Fyreslayer pub, in commiseration of also receiving only one Hero model for a line that desperately needed new/updated kits.

LONG LOST NEHEKHARA will also open the doors of it's various tomb-cafes for the rat-men.

2 hours ago, Maogrim said:

No worries, there are no bursted bubbles on my part whatsoever. I know Tyrion is already male-coded in AOS. But I still think it would have been interesting, hence my use of conditional in my original post. 😊

Maybe they'll give Tyrion an avatar whose a female knight because he can't see? 

[Boar]

4 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

The points are out of the GHB, which is great. Finally we won't have to deal with balance adjustments made, like, a year in advance. Kind of makes the latest battlescroll a bit puzzling to me, though. I really thought the reason why they didn't touch points in it was because we would get new points in the GHB.

Unfortunately in article on Warcom it is stated that GHB will be accompanied by points booklet. So while smaller booklet can perhaps be printed closer to release date points aren't yet decoupled from printed copies (not yet at least). Hopefully they will go further in with this in near future.

[Baz]

38 minutes ago, Still-young said:

Based on?

double sylvaneth banner on the community page. The league of votann has 2 as well, one for 40k and one for what we think will be a kill team reveal today. 

[Nezzhil]

48 minutes ago, xking said:

hmm, Sylvaneth for Warcry.

Hmm, Skaven for Warcry

2 minutes ago, Baz said:

double sylvaneth banner on the community page. The league of votann has 2 as well, one for 40k and one for what we think will be a kill team reveal today. 

Kill Team is Traitor Guard vs Karskin or something like that.

 

Edited May 6, 2022 by Nezzhil

[SunStorm]

28 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:

Kill Team is Traitor Guard vs Karskin or something like that.

 

I think there were photos of new Traitor Guard seen, but not shown during the 40k day reveal, so I think that's a good chance. 

 

 

[acr0ssth3p0nd]

7 hours ago, Beliman said:

GHB2022:

• Still in Ghur, but in another zone (bye bye Thondia!).
• 6 "generic" battleplans
• 6 "specific" battleplans
• Basic Troops (talked about battleline troops) are going to be the starts of the show. Until now, they were just "chaff", but this book will bring new ways to play them and have another type of impact on the table.
• Monsters are still going to be good.

I'm excited for this.

One of the frustrating things with the current state of the game is how Battleline unit are discouraged due to the presence of scoring options for killing Battleline units. Narratively, "Battleline" represents the sort of "standard" unit that your army can afford to field a lot of, and thus the sort of unit where casualties hurt the war effort less than, say, losing a rare specialist unit, so the idea that they'd be the sort of thing you'd want to encourage generals to kill feels a bit "off."

Additionally, I enjoy the vibe of large the core of a standard army being built out of blocks of troops, rather than the current state where troops tend to be vestigial hangers-on around big hitter monsters (which, to be fair, is thematic for what GW is going for right now with the Monster focus, and I'm glad that that effort is working, it's just not my personal preference). Monster-heavy armies have their place, for sure - BCR and SOB spring to mind, and I don't think anyone will argue that an Ent-themed Sylvaneth army of Treelords, Ancients, and Durthus isn't rad af - but I prefer when they feel like exceptions to the standard.

On a tangent, one thing I'm enjoying about the recent "rotating seasons" approach is that it's allowed GW to find a nice compromise on the balance side of things. I don't think anyone will deny that balance is a good thing to have in a PVP game, but also that a bigger, more complex game like AoS will usually have certain builds and factions that have unintended power spikes, and there's only so much that the balance team can do based on resources and manpower. So what GW seems to be leaning into is intentional power imbalance, so that when the meta emphasises certain builds and unit types, it feels thematic and coherent. Obviously, it's not a perfect strategy, but we are currently in a monster-focused season and the meta heavily emphasises large, single- or low-model-count units that can hit like a truck, so there's something to be said about that.

Perhaps the next season will rework scoring to not penalise the presence of battleline, reduce restrictions on and add buffs to battleline units above a certain size, and change up Matched Play battalions to reduce the number of monsters you can fit in them while rewarding larger battleline units. Just some ideas, but all of these things could help shift the meta to focus on large battleline units as the core of the army

[Hawke]

A postive takeaway for non Sylvaneth players from yesterday's reveals:

I feel Sylvaneth players have been calling out for pretty much exactly what was revealed, that being beetle cavalry and an archer unit (wings being a bonus surprise).

This makes me hopeful for other units that people have been calling out for regularly such as:

- Crabalry for IDK

- Mini magmadroths for FS

Etc

Hopefully just a matter of time

[acr0ssth3p0nd]

2 minutes ago, Hawke said:

A postive takeaway for non Sylvaneth players from yesterday's reveals:

I feel Sylvaneth players have been calling out for pretty much exactly what was revealed, that being beetle cavalry and an archer unit (wings being a bonus surprise).

This makes me hopeful for other units that people have been calling out for regularly such as:

- Crabalry for IDK

- Mini magmadroths for FS

Etc

Hopefully just a matter of time

It's been interesting seeing different reactions to the Sylvaneth, especially the "man this wasn't really a surprise tho" vibe from some folks.

If anything, I think the new Sylvaneth units show that the miniatures design team really have their finger on the pulse of the aesthetics of the factions and the areas where each faction range needs filling out. That these things usually aren't a big surprise anymore is simply an indication of how much time we spend on these boards speculating - eventually, one of us is going to come up with an idea that is so thematically cohesive and so useful for filling in the blanks where needed that it just feels obvious. Those ideas stick around and keep coming up in discussions because they fill in those weaker areas that people will be talking about more often and because the aesthetic idea is strong and cohesive. And then when that model actually comes out, it continues to feel obvious because we've already talked the topic to death before ever seeing the model!

And that's not necessarily a bad thing. As a creator, I figure that the internet is a huge hive mind that can come together to use their sheers numbers to accurately speculate future fandom things, whether that's Warhammer models or TV storylines, and if the speculation is decent enough, then "guessing things right" is a reward for their dedication to the core themes of the fandom, not a knock on the creator's ability to create cool stuff. Heck, it's an indication that you've found an audience that likes the same things you like to create, for the same reasons you like to create them!

[Lengthster]

3 minutes ago, acr0ssth3p0nd said:

It's been interesting seeing different reactions to the Sylvaneth, especially the "man this wasn't really a surprise tho" vibe from some folks.

If anything, I think the new Sylvaneth units show that the miniatures design team really have their finger on the pulse of the aesthetics of the factions and the areas where each faction range needs filling out. That these things usually aren't a big surprise anymore is simply an indication of how much time we spend on these boards speculating - eventually, one of us is going to come up with an idea that is so thematically cohesive and so useful for filling in the blanks where needed that it just feels obvious. Those ideas stick around and keep coming up in discussions because they fill in those weaker areas that people will be talking about more often and because the aesthetic idea is strong and cohesive. And then when that model actually comes out, it continues to feel obvious because we've already talked the topic to death before ever seeing the model!

And that's not necessarily a bad thing. As a creator, I figure that the internet is a huge hive mind that can come together to use their sheers numbers to accurately speculate future fandom things, whether that's Warhammer models or TV storylines, and if the speculation is decent enough, then "guessing things right" is a reward for their dedication to the core themes of the fandom, not a knock on the creator's ability to create cool stuff. Heck, it's an indication that you've found an audience that likes the same things you like to create, for the same reasons you like to create them!

You guys know the game where you guess how many marbles are in a jar? Typically when you average out everyone's' guesses, it's really close to the actual amount.

[KingBrodd]

2 hours ago, RuneBrush said:

Necro and middle earth too 😁

Oh Middle-Earth as well!? Awesome Im much more keen for it now.

8 minutes ago, acr0ssth3p0nd said:

It's been interesting seeing different reactions to the Sylvaneth, especially the "man this wasn't really a surprise tho" vibe from some folks.

If anything, I think the new Sylvaneth units show that the miniatures design team really have their finger on the pulse of the aesthetics of the factions and the areas where each faction range needs filling out. That these things usually aren't a big surprise anymore is simply an indication of how much time we spend on these boards speculating - eventually, one of us is going to come up with an idea that is so thematically cohesive and so useful for filling in the blanks where needed that it just feels obvious. Those ideas stick around and keep coming up in discussions because they fill in those weaker areas that people will be talking about more often and because the aesthetic idea is strong and cohesive. And then when that model actually comes out, it continues to feel obvious because we've already talked the topic to death before ever seeing the model!

And that's not necessarily a bad thing. As a creator, I figure that the internet is a huge hive mind that can come together to use their sheers numbers to accurately speculate future fandom things, whether that's Warhammer models or TV storylines, and if the speculation is decent enough, then "guessing things right" is a reward for their dedication to the core themes of the fandom, not a knock on the creator's ability to create cool stuff. Heck, it's an indication that you've found an audience that likes the same things you like to create, for the same reasons you like to create them!

Absolutely loved this right up mate.

[Marcvs]

32 minutes ago, acr0ssth3p0nd said:

Additionally, I enjoy the vibe of large the core of a standard army being built out of blocks of troops, rather than the current state where troops tend to be vestigial hangers-on around big hitter monsters (which, to be fair, is thematic for what GW is going for right now with the Monster focus, and I'm glad that that effort is working, it's just not my personal preference). Monster-heavy armies have their place, for sure - BCR and SOB spring to mind, and I don't think anyone will argue that an Ent-themed Sylvaneth army of Treelords, Ancients, and Durthus isn't rad af - but I prefer when they feel like exceptions to the standard.

 

It will be interesting to see how they handle this rules-wise. Right now "Battleline" means very little in 3.0 books, considering how an army could be composed entirely of Battleline units and yet only field monsters like stormdrake guards or leviadons...

[acr0ssth3p0nd]

21 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

It will be interesting to see how they handle this rules-wise. Right now "Battleline" means very little in 3.0 books, considering how an army could be composed entirely of Battleline units and yet only field monsters like stormdrake guards or leviadons...

Yeah, for it to make a difference, it may have to be for units of 6+ or 10+ Battleline, not just for all Battleline units.

[Kronos]

I’ve got a working theory (to be disproved in an hour) - Warcry will get something for destruction.

Either this or one of you Destruction folk has really upset the powers that be in GW. 
 

Personally, I want to see some ogres, not that ambitious of a dream. Unrealistically I’d take a Chaos Dwarf Or two with some Hobgrots. On a kore grounded hope, it’s could possibly be a Warcry warband for Undead, can’t say I’ve seen many of those. 

 

I’d also like to see some more monster. Don’t have to be massive, just something semi tamed and unruly. A Big crab would be cool.

 

That concludes another episode of “My self indulged wishlist”.
 

 

Edited May 6, 2022 by Kronos

[Twisted Firaun]

6 minutes ago, Kronos said:

I’ve got a working theory (to be disproved in an hour) - Warcry will get something for destruction.

Either this or one of you Destruction folk has really upset the powers that be in GW. 
 

Personally, I want to see some ogres, not that ambitious of a dream. Unrealistically I’d take a Chaos Dwarf Or two with some Hobgrots. On a kore grounded hope, it’s could possibly be a Warcry warband for Undead, can’t say I’ve seen many of those. 

 

I’d also like to see some more monster. Don’t have to be massive, just something semi tamed and unruly. A Big crab would be cool.

 

That concludes another episode of “My self indulged wishlist”.
 

 

My predictions for today:

AOS

New Warcry warbands

Horns of Hashut

Centaurion Marshal model

Chaos Legionnaires

Death and Destruction war bands (hopefully new subsections/races)

Necromunda

Ash Waste Nomad book

Generic vehicles

New Chaos gang (apparently there's a cult that worships a daemon engine Mad Max style).

Killteam

traitor guard

squats

karskins

Lotr:

Something to promote that new show coming out.

[Arzalyn]

Looks like we gonna see another spoiled STD units coming from warcry.

[Sarouan]

Just tone it down, you won't be disappointed that way.

I'm leaning towards Horns of Hashut for Warcry, and just a few models here and there for the rest of games.

[Snorri Nelriksson]

@Arzalynlittle guy seems a Votann(or a KO).

Maybe Votann vs traitor guard?

Edited May 6, 2022 by Snorri Nelriksson

[boyadventurer]

Well the Centaurian is in the teaser pic so we know he's coming (with Warcry I assume)

[EntMan]

Squats are back!

Edited May 6, 2022 by EntMan

[Elmir]

I honestly think these just look flat out worse than both the League of Votan and the Kharadron overlord. 

Those wide unadorned helmets are pretty much a swing and a miss IMO. 

[Clan's Cynic]

Sounds like a new War Cry edition (although not confirmed), no longer set in the Varanspire but in Ghur and with a new logo.

 

Edited May 6, 2022 by Clan's Cynic

[Still-young]

3 minutes ago, Elmir said:

I honestly think these just look flat out worse than both the League of Votan and the Kharadron overlord. 

Those wide unadorned helmets are pretty much a swing and a miss IMO. 

That’s okay, we can’t all be correct all of the time. 

[Arzalyn]

Just now, Clan's Cynic said:

Sounds like a new War Cry edition (although not confirmed), no longer set in the Varanspire but in Ghur and with a new logo.

It should mean we gonna see more warbands for other factions other than Slaves. I woulnd't be surprised if the tomes of the second half of the year get some of those warbands.

[SunStorm]

Oh Warcry in Ghur, hoping for some nice new destruction themed terrain from that

[Elmir]

1 minute ago, Still-young said:

That’s okay, we can’t all be correct all of the time. 

Wholeheartedly agree there...