JackdawGin Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Gloomspite Gitz seems to be the new direction of some Battletomes: Large books merging several "sub"factions into one overall group. This mirrors what they do with Stormcast. We tend to forget that Stormcast is actually several sub-factions with the chambers. The army composition and Battleline varies based on who your general is. You can already see this happening with Aelves as they've gone from several headers (Wanderers, Order Draconis, etc) to just the one on the website. It's only a matter of time before a new Battletome Mirrors this. Battletome: Aelf-kind Battletome: Aelves for days Battletome: All your Aelves are belong to us 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, CommissarRotke said: ah mostly because that's what has been mentioned for the past couple pages, but that might be my brain stuck in Warcry... Wanderers would be cool, but I think GW would do something with Hysh (Teclis or Tyrion) before Wanderers. Sylvaneth already cover the tree vibe, and we still have yet to see the twins or Malerion well in forbidden power, Teclis did scorned Sigmar for the whole stormvault incident and refuse to help him, which may indicate that Hysh elves are not coming out just yet. 1 hour ago, HammerOfSigmar said: I still doubt GW will give update to the old aelves separately. It seems to me that order alliance has more fractions than GW can afford to support. I kind of agree, having three aelf faction relase is a bit much on top of the existing IDK and DoK, I just not entirely sure about them merging the High elfs and Dark elf ranges together since they where design to be different armies that mirror each other in composition (Phoenix guards to Black guards, Dragon princes to Cold one riders, Executioners to swordmasters). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, JackdawGin said: Gloomspite Gitz seems to be the new direction of some Battletomes: Large books merging several "sub"factions into one overall group. This mirrors what they do with Stormcast. We tend to forget that Stormcast is actually several sub-factions with the chambers. The army composition and Battleline varies based on who your general is. You can already see this happening with Aelves as they've gone from several headers (Wanderers, Order Draconis, etc) to just the one on the website. It's only a matter of time before a new Battletome Mirrors this. Battletome: Aelf-kind Battletome: Aelves for days Battletome: All your Aelves are belong to us You're a bit late on this one: this was first launched by the Legion of Nagash battletome, gathering several death subfactions, even some of nighthaunt. Then several tomes followed the path: skaven, beats of chaos, gloomspite come to mind. Will we have an Aelf soup tome? dunno. One of the most probable is StD/Everchosen btw. But there are several contenders à la LoN (ogres, orcs, aelves, free people, dwarves....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, novakai said: well in forbidden power, Teclis did scorned Sigmar for the whole stormvault incident and refuse to help him, which may indicate that Hysh elves are not coming out just yet. But it also says Teclis begins to gather armies of his own. He amasses the martial orders of the Realm of Light, and invokes ancient pacts with the spirits of Hysh to bolster his gleaming warhosts for the new era of conflict to come.” So i dont think they are far off. IMO the "martial orders" are Order Draconis, Phoenix Temple, Eldritch Council and so on. They all have on their lore the organized military discipline. The "spirits of Hysh" beeing new models with extra kits. So far GW have not discarded modern plastics, i doubt it will now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, Thiagoma said: But it also says Teclis begins to gather armies of his own. He amasses the martial orders of the Realm of Light, and invokes ancient pacts with the spirits of Hysh to bolster his gleaming warhosts for the new era of conflict to come.” So i dont think they are far off. IMO the "martial orders" are Order Draconis, Phoenix Temple, Eldritch Council and so on. They all have on their lore the organized military discipline. The "spirits of Hysh" beeing new models with extra kits. So far GW have not discarded modern plastics, i doubt it will now. Well that not really true since they got rid of Greenskinz not that long ago and spire of Dawn set. I guess if we are arguing if Wanderers or Highborne Aelf come out first, in reality of limited space of the release schedule it probably be the New death faction or chaos darkoath tome cause one of those two should have to be release before the end of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, novakai said: Well that not really true since they got rid of Greenskinz not that long ago and spire of Dawn set. I guess if we are arguing if Wanderers or Highborne Aelf come out first, in reality of limited space of the release schedule it probably be the New death faction or chaos darkoath tome cause one of those two should have to be release before the end of the year Kinda. For Skaven there was only 1 unit no longer produced in Spire of Dawn. High elves have certainly more units to lose than that but with what is currently beeing sold there are enough models for an army with more models than most avaiable ones. You are right about the grenskins tho. Were the models modern or pretty old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thiagoma said: Kinda. For Skaven there was only 1 unit no longer produced in Spire of Dawn. High elves have certainly more units to lose than that but with what is currently beeing sold there are enough models for an army with more models than most avaiable ones. You are right about the grenskins tho. Were the models modern or pretty old? The boar rider where pretty new I believe and the Orc boyz and warboss where ok compare to some stuff they still sell in the store. The chariot was probably the one that was showing its age and the warboss on wyvern was made in resin Edit: I think the worst thing about the Greenskinz being gone was that they had an AoS start collecting box release from them but then they got phased out from the store Edited July 12, 2019 by novakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 8 hours ago, novakai said: well in forbidden power, Teclis did scorned Sigmar for the whole stormvault incident and refuse to help him, which may indicate that Hysh elves are not coming out just yet. I kind of agree, having three aelf faction relase is a bit much on top of the existing IDK and DoK, I just not entirely sure about them merging the High elfs and Dark elf ranges together since they where design to be different armies that mirror each other in composition (Phoenix guards to Black guards, Dragon princes to Cold one riders, Executioners to swordmasters). But they could merge woodelves with Dark elves and Woodelves with high elves. They were always the middle (also design wise) anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbreaker Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 7:27 AM, Clan's Cynic said: Another Rumour Engine. Given the design of the crowns, this is clearly an AoS one. I'm thinking Slaves to Darkness/Everchosen due to the specific theme of noble heads being taken, as well as the hook aesthetic fitting Chaos more than say... Soulblight. Ogres are a possibility, but I don't think they'd be picky on who they take and 'save' heads from, noble or peasant. Hot take: New Ogre character called a "King Eater". Gets a bonus for attacking the enemy General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ironbreaker said: Hot take: New Ogre character called a "King Eater". Gets a bonus for attacking the enemy General. New Shadow Elf Headtakers/Executioners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Regarding the Wildwood Thing. I understand it totally different. Every new Wildwood consists of 3-6 trees. As the new models can be linked together, and each model consists of 3 trees each, you need 1 to a Maximum of 2 Models as one (1) Terrain Feature. I am pretty sure you can not link 6 new wildwoods into one Terrain Feature. Was too big . Read the original Text again... They clearly talk specifically about single Wood models here. And one new Wildwood is Made of 3 trees or wood Models. Thats why 1 old wood equals 1-2 new woods rulewise. I cant Imagine that you will need at least 3 new full woods in order to count as 1 Terrain Feature. As a result, you would need 12 woods a 40€ each? Wow....... Edited July 12, 2019 by rosa Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The World Tree Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, rosa said: Regarding the Wildwood Thing. I understand it totally different. Every new Wildwood consists of 3-6 trees. As the new models can be linked together, and each model consists of 3 trees each, you need 1 to a Maximum of 2 Models as one (1) Terrain Feature. I am pretty sure you can not link 6 new wildwoods into one Terrain Feature. Was too big . Read the original Text again... They clearly talk specifically about single Wood models here. And one new Wildwood is Made of 3 trees or wood Models. Thats why 1 old wood equals 1-2 new woods rulewise. I cant Imagine that you will need at least 3 new full woods in order to count as 1 Terrain Feature. As a result, you would need 12 woods a 40€ each? Wow....... No, my understanding is that the new wood box consists of 3 (new)citadel woods(which are now individual trees). 1 awakened wood = 3 of these individual trees. It seems an awakened wood can be 3-6 woods, ergo 2 boxes. Edited July 12, 2019 by The World Tree 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Thats What i mean. Three individuell trees Count as one Wood. Some said you need at least 3 new boxes (9 trees) to count as 1 Terrain Feature. Edited July 12, 2019 by rosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Thiagoma said: Kinda. For Skaven there was only 1 unit no longer produced in Spire of Dawn. High elves have certainly more units to lose than that but with what is currently beeing sold there are enough models for an army with more models than most avaiable ones. Well that one model which was removed from the game also only existed in the spire of dawn settle rest Well is available in very bad looking sculpts or even metal. 1 hour ago, JackStreicher said: New Shadow Elf Headtakers/Executioners Nah Probably Queek who took himself some new strophies back home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just occurred to me, seeing as its a specialist game I wonder what, if any, support War Cry will receive in the future from Forgeworld, wonder if we’ll see conversion sets, Characters, pets/monsters or maybe even some specialist units. Im setting my expectations high and be disappointed later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) We don't really know if Warcry is a one-time specialist game or a long term one. It might be like Killteam or could be closer to Necromunda. For being so close to launch we still don't really know all that much about it as a product nor as game mechanics. That said its been at least a year if not longer (or at least feels like it) and FW still has yet to release the cats for Escher! Edited July 12, 2019 by Overread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarbossKurgan Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 A new Awakened Wyldwood is 3 to 6 tree models. The box is 3 models, so a Wyldwood is one or two boxes. An old Citadel wood is also 3 tree models, so a Wyldwood using the old set is also one or two boxes. That's it. It doesn't seem like there is anything to argue about to me! 🤪 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I doubt it’ll get Forge World support. Necromunda, Blood Bowl etc do because the Specialist Games team are part of Forge World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Kronos said: Just occurred to me, seeing as its a specialist game I wonder what, if any, support War Cry will receive in the future from Forgeworld, wonder if we’ll see conversion sets, Characters, pets/monsters or maybe even some specialist units. Im setting my expectations high and be disappointed later. It's not a specialist game so it's highly unlikely we'll get anything from Forge World. Warcry is part of the main studio as it sits alongside one of the "core" backgrounds (AoS and 40k). It'll likely get support every 3 or 6 months for a few years or so once it's come out (a bit like Kill Team) 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 @RuneBrush thanks, will temper my wish-listing urge then😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raviv Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 There's a new banner on WarCom, saying that the 6th Warcry band will be revealed tomorrow at 9pm EST. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Raviv said: There's a new banner on WarCom, saying that the 6th Warcry band will be revealed tomorrow at 9pm EST. If they wanted to get me excited it should have said "New AoS army revealed this Saturday." If that is supposed to be highlight of the evening then it's another disappointment in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenX Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Aryann said: If they wanted to get me excited it should have said "New AoS army revealed this Saturday." If that is supposed to be highlight of the evening then it's another disappointment in a row. This appears to be a random saturday announcement (which I suspect will be followed by a sunday reveal as Warcry being available to preorder next weekend). The next reasonable time for them to reveal a new AoS army is at the open day on the 20th. To add to this I would be HIGHLY surprised if we don't get a glimpse at a new death faction since I am assuming the missing Warcry faction symbol for the nonchaos factions is death, that the Warcry rules for it will be in the book, they have been hinting at it existing for a while, and they probably want the reveal to happen before we get those rules in our hands. Gives us something new to get excited about. Edited July 12, 2019 by CitizenX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackdawGin Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 They've already confirmed that they'll be revealing Underworlds: Season 3 on the 20th. I would imaging there's other AOS stuffs coming as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzou Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, JackdawGin said: I would imaging there's other AOS stuffs coming as well. Although entirely possible, it is amusing because this is what people have said for months at every event/ every other weekend. NOPE JUST MOAR 40K AND WARCRY BOIS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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