zilberfrid Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Ahh, middle management GW. Looking at the easiest to measure metric and basing performance off that without adressing underlying issues, all while adding another layer of bureaucracy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Aussiemandias said: I'm not overly familiar with how GW does stuff, but do things go "Sold Out Online" before put back on the store with a round based mini photo? A bunch of Maneaters just had the random Sold Out Treatment. No rumours of AoS-ified Maneater box? (I lament for I did not have the female maneater sculpt) Excuse prices, je venir d'Australie... Not trying to stir the (maw) pot, but usually this is a sign that the kit is due a revamp or is being removed, right? They are resin, right? As long as there is one, I wouldn't expect the rest to coe back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 This Hunter Prime fix should really be temporary. Overpowered units should have their scrolls fixed or points in worst case. Interesting mechanic but it shouldn't be set in stone. Internal balance within battletome is as important as external compared to other battletomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yondaime Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Aeryenn said: This Hunter Prime fix should really be temporary. Overpowered units should have their scrolls fixed or points in worst case. Interesting mechanic but it shouldn't be set in stone. Internal balance within battletome is as important as external compared to other battletomes. I dont know, i dont like this trend, they keep making patches on patches (like the double cp if you get DT'ed or the destroy objective on 3rd turn) What makes aos so much different from 40k is its extremely easy rules and intuitive games Making X victory points if you kill an OP unit its not interesting, au contraire, is literally the most boring rule you can come up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yondaime Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Beliman said: I don't think it's a bad patch, but I hate bandaids. It reminds me of parasitic design mechanics from videogames (MMOs): patches that only last a few years (months?). That's one of the worst designs if you want an ongoing/seasoned game. Josh Strifes has a video that explains this type of design from a videogame pov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwHJqXKwRKM My main issue is that this patch should be part of the core game. Some units are perfectly to fit as Prime Hunters. Just not use this Battlescrolls as a bandaid, believe in what you do GW!!! Yes, and i hate the parasitic design so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 +++ MOD HAT +++ Come on folks, there's a whole thread talking about the new Battlescroll release, can we not discuss it in the rumour thread too please - bearing in mind many of you are commenting on it there too... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Welcome back, Attilan Rough Riders!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien 2L Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Welcome back, Attilan Rough Riders!! It’s Hobgrot Wulfriders !! More grenades for the glory of Hashut !! 🔥🔥🔥 (tbh, 99% chance it’s 40k related) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Welcome back, Attilan Rough Riders!! it is strange that having a segmented grenade styled grip makes something look inherently modern even though that could have been crafted historically. Either way I think it is 40k related and probably something Imperial Guard... but every time I make a guess about something related to 40k I am instantly corrected, because it is clearly some iconic weapon used by some unit that I should totally have heard of... oh this is clearly Inquisitor Igor Ironeye's prosthetic harpoon hand. 🧐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Welcome back, Attilan Rough Riders!! *Open WarCom site to check if there is a rumor enginee today. See the shadow of it on the article link* "Oh cool, a spear! Probably a new AoS rumor enginee!" *Actually open the article an see the picture* "Oh never mind...." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: it is strange that having a segmented grenade styled grip makes something look inherently modern even though that could have been crafted historically. Either way I think it is 40k related and probably something Imperial Guard... but every time I make a guess about something related to 40k I am instantly corrected, because it is clearly some iconic weapon used by some unit that I should totally have heard of... oh this is clearly Inquisitor Igor Ironeye's prosthetic harpoon hand. 🧐 Not so much a grip as it is just an actual grenade, which explodes when you stab somebody with the lance. It is indeed an iconic (and utterly ridiculous) weapon used by the Imperial Guard, specifically the Rough Riders. Well predicted! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 41 minutes ago, Kadeton said: Not so much a grip as it is just an actual grenade, which explodes when you stab somebody with the lance. It is indeed an iconic (and utterly ridiculous) weapon used by the Imperial Guard, specifically the Rough Riders. Well predicted! There is even somewhat of a historical basis for the concept of a grenade-lance. It's called a lunge mine and is a WWII era anti-tank weapon. They didn't catch on because they were basically suicide weapons, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Warband of kruelboyz with this being the weapon of the goblin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Nezzhil said: Welcome back, Attilan Rough Riders!! I came here to say exactly this lol, no way it isn't redone Rough Riders... That or part of the Ash Wastes, since Mad Max also had some fire lances. I'm honestly disappointed, Rough Riders were always the weakest part of Guard to me, and exploding spears feels like the perfect dwarf weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: I came here to say exactly this lol, no way it isn't redone Rough Riders... That or part of the Ash Wastes, since Mad Max also had some fire lances. I'm honestly disappointed, Rough Riders were always the weakest part of Guard to me, and exploding spears feels like the perfect dwarf weapon. Strongly considering a Demigryph Knight conversion of grenade-lance knights on AdMech mechanical horses right now. Edited March 15, 2022 by Neil Arthur Hotep 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Strongly considering a Demigryph Knight conversion of grenade-lance knights on AdMech mechanical horses right now. You could even make them an elite Greywater Fastness unit that gets to test new weapons tech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 38 minutes ago, Doko said: Warband of kruelboyz with this being the weapon of the goblin oooh good call, we HAVE seen this same grenade pattern for hobgrots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: You could even make them an elite Greywater Fastness unit that gets to test new weapons tech! I do have bunch of leftover Helstorm rockets lying around right now that could work as a spear tip. Gyrobomber bombs, as well, actually. I think I might have to give this some serious consideration, it would fit right into my homebrew city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Matrindur said: Sold out Online also happens when they get reboxed into the new 3.0 box design but that would mean they are getting a new book soon Those are all resin models, they're definitely not getting reboxed. That said, nothing seems to be sold out yet in the US at least. Worth keeping an eye on I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Say do you guys have any ideas when we might get a hint (from gw) towards the announced battle-tomes of unknown factions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 9 hours ago, Matrindur said: Sold out Online also happens when they get reboxed into the new 3.0 box design but that would mean they are getting a new book soon That's only applicable to boxes with warscrolls inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Kadeton said: Not so much a grip as it is just an actual grenade, which explodes when you stab somebody with the lance. It is indeed an iconic (and utterly ridiculous) weapon used by the Imperial Guard, specifically the Rough Riders. Well predicted! That is the most hilariously 40k thing I have ever heard... thanks for the info and I am glad to have finally gotten a 40k prediction seemingly correct. 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Well with the recent range rotation of the 40K resin model, it possible they are starting to cutting down on the finecast resin model production for their main range, man eater existing as multiple models probably made them easier to cut but that just my theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispersofblood Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 18 hours ago, yukishiro1 said: Warscroll changes > point adjustments > this weird handicap system where you get compensated for having bad overpriced units by getting extra points for killing your opponent's busted underpriced units. I actually think points are the worst methodology of balancing. Things are either worth their points in a tight band or not. Ignoring obviously severely undercoated. 5,10,15 or even 20 points won't be the difference between a unit that does its job reliably and one that sometimes does its job being selected. Similarly the community hates units that don't do their jobs. So we have to accept that to some degree we want units we can count on. The room between does its job and can be managed is so narrow that I think looking for innovative ways to increase global risk to taking the units we want to take is wise. Lastly the community is strongly biased towards the game being a variety of units that do things rather than including units that stop things happening. That has its own balance pressure. And is ultimately responsible for the power projection meta we currently occupy. My initial reaction to the battlepack was "this is silly", but after some thought I think this is a more correct move than the community is giving it credit for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: Say do you guys have any ideas when we might get a hint (from gw) towards the announced battle-tomes of unknown factions? Adepticon on Wednesday next week seems as likely a time as any!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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