Koradrel of Chrace Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 @michu That is probably the best description of the model I've heard so far, and perfectly echoes what I thought was going on with it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 *Praise the sun pose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, novakai said: *Praise the sun pose That too. More like "praise the moon/me" ofc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, michu said: Looks like internet memes spoiled so many miniature poses. As I don't know where that "T-pose" meme come from or what does it mean, I see Teclis' pose as partially "Bask in my glory!" and "Run mortal or feel my wrath". And it's beautifully executed. I think I can see sunlight (or moonlight) coming from behind him. Standard pose for many 3d models is arms outstretched straight upright (palms down). If animation fails in a video game, you'll have a character hovering in a T pose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Late reactions to yesterday's reveals: - The DOK warband looks really cool, the models are really gorgeous! - I actually don't mind the Lumineth archers with their funny hats! - The mage model looks amazing, but the thought of attempting to transport it gives me cold sweat! It's good time to be an AOS player! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, michu said: Looks like internet memes spoiled so many miniature poses. As I don't know where that "T-pose" meme come from or what does it mean, I see Teclis' pose as partially "Bask in my glory!" and "Run mortal or feel my wrath". And it's beautifully executed. I think I can see sunlight (or moonlight) coming from behind him. A T-Pose refers to a pose you model a 3D model in (there's also a Y-Pose). These poses are quite handy for rigging the models later. So T-Pose means unfinished / unposed since the Model hasn't been animated/posed yet. @zilberfrid yes, if the animation fails for some reason the Model might return to its default pose, whch usually is the T-Pose. Edited March 11, 2020 by JackStreicher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexonian Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 when I see the teclis model the only thing I think of is "praise the sun" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Alexonian said: when I see the teclis model the only thing I think of is "praise the sun" I think "All I see is an Atreides that I want to kill." Except an elf instead of an Atreides. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koradrel of Chrace Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 @Sleboda So are you the kind of Harkonnen who randomly poses in just your string bikini while your uncle pulls out someone's heart plug? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 hours ago, michu said: Looks like internet memes spoiled so many miniature poses. As I don't know where that "T-pose" meme come from or what does it mean, I see Teclis' pose as partially "Bask in my glory!" and "Run mortal or feel my wrath". And it's beautifully executed. I think I can see sunlight (or moonlight) coming from behind him. That's interesting. The first thing I thought of when I saw his pose is Battle of The Finuval Plain, floating above the battle field. This might have been his pose right when struck down Malekith. I really like it. I agree with you. I like that he looks calm and also imposing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Teclis always puts this in mind for me: 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, Kadeton said: Teclis always puts this in mind for me: except he forgot how to make an epic face and instead looks derpy doing it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Kadeton said: Teclis always puts this in mind for me: They are both fictional, so there's that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sleboda said: They are both fictional, so there's that. How can you say that??? Teclis is real! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) I genuinely don't understand some of the complaints. The quivers being too big or Teclis's trousers being reminiscent of MC Hammer I can understand but what exactly is it about the faces that is such a problem? Teclis looks like he is sneering to me and the archers look to be frowning in concentration. If anything the painters may have overdone the highlights on the eyebrows a bit. The archers are wearing conical helmets which is a fairly typical helmet design for an archer. I don't see the problem with them. I understand the criticism of the bows, but I am more interested in the three different upper limbs than the three strings. I have seen lots of complaints that these don't work but a quick Google doesn't explain why. Edited March 12, 2020 by Chikout 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, novakai said: except he forgot how to make an epic face and instead looks derpy doing it Yeah, I think the main problem is that the sculptor gave him an expression at all. As Charlton aptly demonstrates there, the best way to do "epic face" is to have a completely neutral, bored expression. 48 minutes ago, Chikout said: I understand the criticism of the bows, but I am more interested in the three different upper limbs than the three strings. I have seen lots of complaints that these don't work but a quick Google doesn't explain why. I assumed they were going for something like a leaf spring rather than three separate limbs. The main "this doesn't work" aspect comes from the fact that the forces are inherently symmetrical - whatever tension you apply to the upper limb of a bow equally applies to the lower limb, so those three strings and their compound leaf-spring arm can only be doing as much work as the one string and its single arm. They're obviously superfluous. If there was a sound practical reason to make three-stringed bows, bowyers would have discovered it centuries ago. However, I think it's also completely fitting that a human should look at an aelf-bow and go "Wait, why does that... but then... gah, it makes no sense!" It doesn't look right to us because we're thinking in terms of stupid mundane human stuff like "physics" and "engineering". We can't make functional bows that look like that, but they can, because they're aelves. 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnenspeer Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 You need 3 strings in the upper half for some magical reasons ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nos Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) I think a big issue with the Lumineth is the paint job. As with the models I think they've taken a lot of inspiration from War of Three Kingdoms and that era of associated mythology, but the tones are too warm for the Lumineth narrative. The skin in particular is all wrong. They need to look fae, with much more delicate skin, but these guys are robust yellows and oranges, and that earthiness detracts from the fragility and delicacy of the rest of the aesthetic. I'm general I dont think the 'Eavy metal approach works with the less chunky armies. The bold colours and big highlights demolish some of the subtlety. Skin in particular often looks flat or ceramic. Edited March 12, 2020 by Nos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzou Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Kadeton said: Yeah, I think the main problem is that the sculptor gave him an expression at all. As Charlton aptly demonstrates there, the best way to do "epic face" is to have a completely neutral, bored expression. I think this is correct, and the t-pose is just cake icing for some. I’ve seen less savory forums posting this to describe his face expression: 2 2 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I can't say I'm surprised, so I guess I'll reiterate: everyone loves calling elves some form of inhuman, until that's actually reflected aesthetically and then it's "this doesn't look right!!" The other thing is we haven't seen a 360 degree image or even separate angle shots so... wait for those until making final judgement. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Agree @CommissarRotke. Furthermore, after I was told what T-pose means, then I must say that critique is invalid. His arms are raised naturally, so it's not a T-pose. And I looked at bigger pictures nad Teclis' face is a normal focused and angry (and slightly disgusted of the mortal weaklings before him) face. People talk about issues that does not exist. Edited March 12, 2020 by michu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Lumineth: the army leaves nobody indifferent. And I think that it is the best thing that GW can do. You can't create some love and hype with bland things forever. I personnaly don't really like this army (...for now). But I admit that I can fancy it in the future. Continue this strong design policy GW, pleeeease. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: Lumineth: the army leaves nobody indifferent. And I think that it is the best thing that GW can do. You can't create some love and hype with bland things forever. I personnaly don't really like this army (...for now). But I admit that I can fancy it in the future. Continue this strong design policy GW, pleeeease. You're right. MtG designer Mark Rosewater often says that a design many like but nobody loves is a failed desing compared to that one which evokes strong emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: Lumineth: the army leaves nobody indifferent. And I think that it is the best thing that GW can do. You can't create some love and hype with bland things forever. I personnaly don't really like this army (...for now). But I admit that I can fancy it in the future. Continue this strong design policy GW, pleeeease. Don´t forget how many people were upset about the design of the motrek guards and the fact that the models had noses. With the launch suddendly noone complained anymore. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlvalentine Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Ultimately whether a model looks good or bad is totally, 100% subjective. There's no point trying to argue about it or declare things objectively right or wrong. It's purely personal taste and to each their own. Even stuff like the three strings on the bow... it doesn't matter whether things like that are realistic, for some people it looks silly but for others it looks cool, and ultimately looks are all they're going for. It's not like these bows actually have to function at any point… I really don't like the look of the Lumineth myself, but I don't see that as something to complain about. It's nice to have less temptation in my hobby life, to be honest! 9 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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