Kirjava13 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: Well at least we now know why all of those high aelve got discontinued. ...oof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: Well at least we now know why all of those high aelve got discontinued. Right in the feelings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indecisive Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 So the secret website leaks or whatever thing ended up... right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Karragon said: Just a couple of things from the reveal seminar. The chaos cat giraffe is on a 90mm base Everything in the new SC STD is push fit with a variety of heads STD is still god mark-able Slayer of kings is rend -2 The cheer for the STD video was very loud On the positive side of the models being push fit to start off, that should mean the box is cheaper. Right? Right? Bueller? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 hours ago, novakai said: not sure if it a cause for concern but Fimir warrior are "no longer available" on the Forgeworld US webstore the Noble is still in stock and they are still available on the other region webstore browser however, so not sure. I can still see the Warriors in the few regions I tried (i.e. Rest of the World, Ireland, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimrock Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Austin said: On the positive side of the models being push fit to start off, that should mean the box is cheaper. Right? Right? Bueller? Yeah hints for pricing suggest it's in the low end of price for SC boxes, so that's good. As long as they release non push fit units later then I'll be perfectly happy but if they try to pull a chainrasp again I'll be really disappointed. Edit: Actually, thinking about it push fit makes a lot of sense for this SC. Given the typical pricing for heavy infantry, cavalry and a mounted lord model, this would have been a massive savings. The push fit is likely GW trying to give value while also discouraging people from just buying 3 or 4 of them at once. Edited November 3, 2019 by Grimrock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Pushfit won't stop people getting 3 or 4 or more. It's likely more to lower costs and complexity of the kit and make it more accessible to new players (which is a BIG thing for GW - they want and need new blood - esp in these difficult time when the digital market has dominated the toy and hobby sector for teens) GW knows full well their core of fans will certainly get several of these kits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartazjb0y Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Austin said: On the positive side of the models being push fit to start off, that should mean the box is cheaper. Right? Right? Bueller? Leak said $95 USD which is cheaper than the new CoS boxes ($100) and more expensive than the current StD box ($90). We're basically swapping out a Chaos Sorcerer Lord, a Chaos Chariot, and 2 Chaos Warriors for all new sculpts and the new mounted Chaos Lord, for $5. To me that does seem like a pretty good deal, but yeah don't quite love push-fit. Let's hope it's like the Sequitors which have a push-fit SKU and a normal plastic SKU Edited November 3, 2019 by smartazjb0y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagash42 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I'll get at least one to go with my growing slaanesh host since GW isn't going to give me special mortals of my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Has there been a release more universally praised than this one? I am yet to see a negative comment (besides non-related comments like "Where's Seraphon?!", etc.). I remember people being really excited when the DoK trailer was revealed and Gloomspite were extremely well-received, but this is another level. From a business point of view, I am not sure this wasn't a bit too soon. They feel like they have stolen the thunder of the Bonereapers in a big way. I can almost hear the frantic mass clicking of cancelled pre-orders. Edit: Actually, a few people have said they don't like the book's cover, and I agree with that. Hardly a deal-breaker though, lol Edited November 4, 2019 by Kyriakin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hawkins Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Austin said: On the positive side of the models being push fit to start off, that should mean the box is cheaper. Right? Right? Bueller? Not according to the Chainrasp Horde! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satyrical Sophist Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kyriakin said: From a business point of view, I am not sure this wasn't a bit too soon. They feel like they have stolen the thunder of the Bonereapers in a big way. I can almost hear the frantic mass clicking of cancelled pre-orders. I was very tempted by bone reapers, but honestly the new StD caused me to decide not to. I love chaos and have odds and ends of all the gods, as well as a full Tzeentch army. It would be awesome if a more mortal based Tzeentch became viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, Kyriakin said: They feel like they have stolen the thunder of the Bonereapers in a big way. I can almost hear the frantic mass clicking of cancelled pre-orders. I felt that way too. Bone boyz were shadowed by Cities of Sigmar and Slaves to Darkness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Austin said: On the positive side of the models being push fit to start off, that should mean the box is cheaper. Right? Right? Bueller? Why would they be? I remember when plastic terminators first came out and were not cheaper than the metal set. Outrage! We got calls in Customer Service at the time asking why the plastic ones were the price they were. Our manager at the time coached us to respond with "Why is that the price for terminators?" The callers would then usually say something like "the plastic terminators." We would say "Right. The terminators. That's the box. That's the price for them." The point is, plastic, metal, whatever. Terminators. So, why should push fit warriors be cheaper? They are still warriors. Heck, if anything, they should cost more since you don't have to do so much work on your own to get them on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartazjb0y Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sleboda said: So, why should push fit warriors be cheaper? They are still warriors. Heck, if anything, they should cost more since you don't have to do so much work on your own to get them on the table. Well generally there's less customization with push-fit, and the one case we have so far of GW selling both push-fit and regular, the push-fit ones ARE cheaper. Push-fit Sequitors come out to $5 a model ($15 for 3) and normal Sequitors come out to $6 a model ($60 for 10). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sleboda said: Why would they be? I remember when plastic terminators first came out and were not cheaper than the metal set. Outrage! We got calls in Customer Service at the time asking why the plastic ones were the price they were. Our manager at the time coached us to respond with "Why is that the price for terminators?" The callers would then usually say something like "the plastic terminators." We would say "Right. The terminators. That's the box. That's the price for them." The point is, plastic, metal, whatever. Terminators. So, why should push fit warriors be cheaper? They are still warriors. Heck, if anything, they should cost more since you don't have to do so much work on your own to get them on the table. Because they are an inferior version of a product? Warhammer products: Built them yourself, with options, paint them yourself. Starter set-like miniatures are a good thing, but to fill the spot they were designed to fullfill. Trying to defend starter set miniatures to cost more than proper multipart sprues or just as much is next level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nubl0 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I have a horrible feeling we won’t be getting a multi part chaos warrior kit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Galas said: Because they are an inferior version of a product? 🤷♂️ We disagree I suppose. I find single part metal models to be the best, and since we are in the plastic age now, I like it when my models get as close to that Golden Era as possible and take less time to cut off sprues, scrape lines, mess up gluing, etc. Difference of opinion. Edited November 4, 2019 by Sleboda 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JangutzKhan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Sleboda said: 🤷♂️ We disagree I suppose. I find single part metal models to be the best, and since we are in the plastic age now, I like it when my models get as close to that Golden Era as possible and take less time to cut off sprues, scrape lines, mess up gluing, etc. Difference of opinion. Each to their own I guess. Push-fit just makes it hard to make adjustments to your models that you find more aesthetically pleasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Sleboda said: 🤷♂️ We disagree I suppose. I find single part metal models to be the best, and since we are in the plastic age now, I like it when my models get as close to that Golden Era as possible and take less time to cut off sprues, scrape lines, mess up gluing, etc. Difference of opinion. We differ in opinion. My favourite boxes are Greatswords, Demigryphs, Pistoleers and Karl Franz, for the sheer amount of options they bring. Not just for those sets, but for others as well. I also found that pushfit models still need glueing and scraping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Kyriakin said: Has there been a release more universally praised than this one? Gitz. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Pushfit models are barely less customisable than some of the full kits these days, which basically are push fit without the pegs. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Nubl0 said: I have a horrible feeling we won’t be getting a multi part chaos warrior kit... Don’t you say these things! Although honestly if we dont at least we have something. I would particularly be sad about no great weapon option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svnvaldez Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Grimrock said: also discouraging people from just buying 3 or 4 of them at once. It’s exactly this imo. They want ppl to buy 1 SC. Not 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The fact that the battletome is coming now does make me wonder if there will be a multipart kit. You would have thought the chance to sell a load of multipart new chaos units would be when their new book is launching. I suspect we may get the SC set released as separate boxes, but the same models, at somepoint in 2020. So hope you like monopose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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