Ben Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 @ChippyRick just took out the Hammer and Bolter event in Belgium. 100 players. Gristlegore Flesh Eater Courts. 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The TRUE Realmlords of Hysh, boys and ghouls. (Courtly applause) Huge congrats to ChippyRick on such a glorious victory! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellman Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Wath does the corpes cart do for the arme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fellman said: Wath does the corpes cart do for the arme? It gives death wizards +1 to the casting throw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 So wait, how does Ghoul Patrol play these days? Been out of the loop for a while, so not sure if much has changed with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azdimy Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Congrats! Gristlegore is still really strong. Savage strike was properly changed in the ghb errata. I still have nightmare from pre errata games against them Edited February 9, 2020 by azdimy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death1942 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 The FAQ definitely hurt but it felt like everyone dropped them as soon as it hit when in reality they are still very very strong. I wonder if a lot of the drop off was from the army attracting those gamers who tend to jump around power armies a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Scribe Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Its definitely still a viable army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phasteon Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I think its funny that the „viability“ of armies is measured in tournament placements, as those placements alone are not purely dictated by an armies capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmaster Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 As Karl Popper said, better a bad map than no map at all. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karragon Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Gristlegore never lost it, they're just monumentally boring for your opponent to play against. The FAQ nerf put them in a pretty good place power wise, strong but not overbearing, they're just soooo booooring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer49 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Pretty Quick to build an army though with so few models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Karragon said: Gristlegore never lost it, they're just monumentally boring for your opponent to play against. The FAQ nerf put them in a pretty good place power wise, strong but not overbearing, they're just soooo booooring. A lot of that comes from a lack unit choice. Yet I still sometimes like to take my Ghouls out for a feast day now and then (which usually ends with me getting a whopping since I am out of practice and therefor forgetting half their rules xD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karragon Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, JackStreicher said: A lot of that comes from a lack unit choice. Yet I still sometimes like to take my Ghouls out for a feast day now and then (which usually ends with me getting a whopping since I am out of practice and therefor forgetting half their rules xD) Oh I don't mean FEC in general. I was running FEC to tournaments almost all of last year and both I and a majority of my opponents had a good time, Feast Day + Horrors is loads of fun or Blisterskin + Flayers. It's just Gristlegore that's problematic. It's the same problem as Slaanesh. Here let me attack you with 1600 (2 GKoTG fighting twice) points of my army before you get to do anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phasteon Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Karragon said: Oh I don't mean FEC in general. I was running FEC to tournaments almost all of last year and both I and a majority of my opponents had a good time, Feast Day + Horrors is loads of fun or Blisterskin + Flayers. It's just Gristlegore that's problematic. It's the same problem as Slaanesh. Here let me attack you with 1600 (2 GKoTG fighting twice) points of my army before you get to do anything. But thats not how it works. Its just the general that attacks first and only in a turn where he charged now. I‘d LOVE to play against an army focused around big scary monsters. Don‘t know why it would be boring to play against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karragon Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Phasteon said: But thats not how it works. Its just the general that attacks first and only in a turn where he charged now. I‘d LOVE to play against an army focused around big scary monsters. Don‘t know why it would be boring to play against. Your general fights at the start of the combat phase, twice if you feeding frenzy. Then you go to normal picking order and pick another GKoTG and fight twice with it with feeding frenzy. Essentially 4 activations on your turn before your opponent gets to pick, if they've got anything left in combat at that point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SteveJames Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Firstly I'd like to say congratulations to @ChippyRickwell deserved victory, I hope you got your massive hammer home safely! FEC are still very strong I've played Ricky's list a few times and it's brutal. I really think we need to see more shooting heavy lists, it doesn't matter how powerful something is in combat if you can shoot it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Ben said: @ChippyRick just took out the Hammer and Bolter event in Belgium. 100 players. Gristlegore Flesh Eater Courts. Do you have the final standings of the tournament? Thanks! Edited February 10, 2020 by Nezzhil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Tooooon said: So wait, how does Ghoul Patrol play these days? Been out of the loop for a while, so not sure if much has changed with it It doesn't "play". It's there because it's the least expensive way to take battalion giving your list invalueble extra CP and artefact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejnar Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Do you have the final standings of tournament? Thanks! I would also like the final standings with lists. Is it available somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phasteon Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Karragon said: Your general fights at the start of the combat phase, twice if you feeding frenzy. Then you go to normal picking order and pick another GKoTG and fight twice with it with feeding frenzy. Essentially 4 activations on your turn before your opponent gets to pick, if they've got anything left in combat at that point Assuming you get the charge, otherwise your general will be killed before he striked. Or he gets shot by KO/Tzeenth fly by. I see this list as a challenge, there are enough counterplay options to make it an insteresting match up. I was just disagreeing with the point that its „boring“ to face that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Wonder how much longer corpse cart will be legal. It doesn't fall into any allegiance does it? Still just "Death"/"Deadwalkers". Imagine GW will end matched play support for it in GH20.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Tooooon said: So wait, how does Ghoul Patrol play these days? Been out of the loop for a while, so not sure if much has changed with it IMO it's ok- thing is with arch-regents you get 20 ghouls coming on any board edge anywways. So it's really to lower drops and get another artefact more than that actual ghouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobashamaka Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Here you go, congrats for the victory @ChippyRick !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Scribe Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Phasteon said: I think its funny that the „viability“ of armies is measured in tournament placements, as those placements alone are not purely dictated by an armies capability. A bad army will never be able to place in an environment where everyone is taking the most powerful lists. Even an ok army will almost never be able to place in that army. The greatest players in the world also usually always take the strongest lists they can, or if not THE strongest, A strong list (viable) because this is a game of probabilities and if you aren't taking a high probability list you aren't placing. As such that is how one can tell what is viable or not. Even poor players can do well with strong armies, particularly if they are playing other poor or middling players because the math in this game is very powerful and has a high impact. I've seen tournament placing strong players take middle of the road armies and get beaten by weak players playing very strong armies, pretty much every time that experiment happens down at the store. What you rarely see are big tournament results showing weak armies placing high overall, even with the best players in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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