darkspear Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 56 minutes ago, Ashendant said: You should be able to play them until the next GHB, since they have both points and warscrolls. I am same as you. I lost two of my three AoS armies. For my old stuff , I am thinking of either playing WHFB again or (more realistically) play AoS Legends using points from GHB19. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I have made a list: High aevles: loremaster/white lion chariot/archmage/chariots/dragon noble/dragon blades/swordmasters/white lions/dragon lord/archmage on dragon/skycutter Wood aevles: spellweaver/waywatcher/wayfinder/glade guard/waystrider The humans: gunmaster/warrior priest/freeguild archers/volkmar the grim on the war altar of sigmar/freeguild general/witch hunter/warrior priest on warhorse The dispossed: unforged/thunderer/quarreller/warrior/organ gun/cannon The dark aelves: None Well, actually only dispossed and high aevles suffers a lot from this deletion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthlorianStoners Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 While it sucks so many units/factions are going, I don’t find it too surprising. Swifthawk going made sense with SoD getting axed. Order Draconis and Edlritch council while cool, weren’t really super intriguing in terms of getting expanded. I can see Wanderers and Phoenix Tenple getting spun off and that is supported by this I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbreaker Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Well, I guess it's time to quit the hobby after starting just a year ago. Almost my entire army is invalidated and I hate elves and stormcast and don't want humans. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid_Nine Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) Wow, I am just... just surprised they are wiping out this much. I don't want to panic just yet as they may have a massive model release for cities (doubt it) but the sheer number of unique faction units that can and should give all these cities extra dimensions just being wiped out? the thing that hurts the most is the arch mage. I just made a converted model for my idoneth Deepkin to have a Mage that can keep up with my all eel list, so having it be deleted before I could even play a 2000 point game just.... ouch. and now what will I make my blood knights out of?! Edited August 3, 2019 by Acid_Nine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, HammerOfSigmar said: Well, actually only dispossed and high aevles suffers a lot from this deletion. Wanderers are basically unplayable if all of these deletions are permanent. Overall though I'd caution people to wait and see what GW announces before going and quitting the hobby or selling off your collection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbreaker Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Basically they are removing redundancies so that you will have to mix the races and also removing redundancies for Stormcast with the artillery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandzak-Miniatures Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I’m surprised the flagellant are staying but the free guild archers aren’t.. that makes me sad. I guess humans are all about that black powder, which is lame. The cannons going away is weird since they were just in the mercenaries.. slaves to darkness box going must be indicating somethings just around the corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, swarmofseals said: Wanderers are basically unplayable if all of these deletions are permanent. Overall though I'd caution people to wait and see what GW announces before going and quitting the hobby or selling off your collection. I am not sure whether all HQ are gone, but most of the infantry/calvary are still there, only glade guard is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Ironbreaker said: Basically they are removing redundancies so that you will have to mix the races and also removing redundancies for Stormcast with the artillery. The old empire artillery are untouched..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbreaker Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, HammerOfSigmar said: The old empire artillery are untouched..... Sure, but I don't want to take humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigvaldtheMagnificent Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I hope you Order players have learned not to trust neo-sigmar. Order truly is the worst GA and sigmar is the worst "god". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid_Nine Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ironbreaker said: Sure, but I don't want to take humans. I don't think anyone would fault you for playing with really short "freeguild" guard after this. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataphract Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ironbreaker said: Sure, but I don't want to take humans. So? Just take the artillery and use Dwarf models for the crew. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, HammerOfSigmar said: It's about official support, TK and bret are still in AOS but they will probably never get updated. Those deleted one probably will be the same. I know. I'm just saying it's not quite time to throw your models away just yet. At the very least you will get 11 more months when they are considered up to date, especially in the case of mercenary companies. Also a lack of updates doesn't bother me too much. It is gw saying in the latest faq that models not in the ghb are not allowed that makes me a bit angry. Due to a lack of synergies and army abilities , old minis will never be super competitive. Why not let people take them to tournaments if they want? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbreaker Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cataphract said: So? Just take the artillery and use Dwarf models for the crew. But it's not duardin engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataphract Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Ironbreaker said: But it's not duardin engineering Cannons were originally made by them therefore all cannons are. Plus they could just come from an all Duardin city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, Acid_Nine said: Wow, I am just... just surprised they are wiping out this much. I don't want to panic just yet as they may have a massive model release for cities (doubt it) but the sheer number of unique faction units that can and should give all these cities extra dimensions just being wiped out? the thing that hurts the most is the arch mage. I just made a converted model for my idoneth Deepkin to have a Mage that can keep up with my all eel list, so having it be deleted before I could even play a 2000 point game just.... ouch. and now what will I make my blood knights out of?! I'll say this again. If a model doesn't get a new warscroll in the cities book, the old warscroll and points will still be valid until the next ghb comes out. So you can use that arch mage for another 11 months at least. Discontinued does not mean removed from the rules. It just means no more updates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chikout said: I'll say this again. If a model doesn't get a new warscroll in the cities book, the old warscroll and points will still be valid until the next ghb comes out. So you can use that arch mage for another 11 months at least. Discontinued does not mean removed from the rules. It just means no more updates. And that doesnt mean much considering we never had suport to begin with! That is the whole point! People with classic armies have been waiting 4 years for support, get the book anounced and finally..... their models removed. One more year of broken up subfactions with no traits, artifacts and proper rules isnt a perk, it only means you wont be supported for another year before beeing dumped. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Time to save relics from the fire of Nocte Dame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prochuvi Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Dont panic,im sure this dont meaning nothing. It is 100% imposible that dragonlord is being reboxed or deleted but the black dragon isnt being or the phoenyx. Those 3 models were released at the same time and have similar price,plastic etc so if they changue\delete the dragonlord then they gonna do the same with the black dragon and phoenyx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbanks Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Glade Guard, Dispossessed Warriors, Quarrelers, and Thunderers might be gone because of the 16 unit size instead of 10, but it's weird to see the first two considering they got repackaged (and recently too) I feel for the High Elf players though, they have to be livid that their collection just got nuked from orbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord marcus Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Arkiham said: it will be nice to finally be free of the shackles of the old world. get them while you can before you are scalped on ebay But why though. What made the old world so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123lac Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 They should have done this when AoS was released tbh. Stringing people with legacy armies along for 3-4 years before doing the squatting now is a bit unfair. So much for transparency I guess. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbanks Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 53 minutes ago, HammerOfSigmar said: I am not sure whether all HQ are gone, but most of the infantry/calvary are still there, only glade guard is gone. Araloth/Nomad Prince is still there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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