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2 hours ago, King Under the Mountain said:

Always a possibility and not unheard of for two factions of the same race (Orcs and Ogres) to be combined in one Battletome.

I'd prefer they stay separate though. 

The trend lately has been souping, so who can say.

OTOH, it could just be a move to expand DoK without covering the same ground as their existing models. Assassins and Executioners and such were always part of the Khainite cults in old Dark Elf lore anyway, and the shadow guy almost looks like the return of the Mistweaver Saih.

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Have we seen that shield on his stomach before? I know whats-his-name on the stream seemed to veer into referring to it as a 'Stormcast shield' but the closest design is the Prosecutor, but it's not quite the same..

The closest I could thing of was the Knights of the Blazing Sun symbols and Myrmidia is supposedly alive and kickin' in AoS - just pretty much never mentioned outside of one short story. 

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So this Black Library banner definitely had the Warstomper on it didnt it? Is this the Battletome cover or a Black Library novel coming soon?

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18 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

The closest I could thing of was the Knights of the Blazing Sun symbols and Myrmidia is supposedly alive and kickin' in AoS - just pretty much never mentioned outside of one short story. 

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I'm seeing some folks suggesting that this latest Lumineth model is the last reveal for the "current" release and we won't see more for at least a year or two, while others are suggesting that there may be more kits coming. Is any of this evidence based or is it all speculation?

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17 minutes ago, swarmofseals said:

I'm seeing some folks suggesting that this latest Lumineth model is the last reveal for the "current" release and we won't see more for at least a year or two, while others are suggesting that there may be more kits coming. Is any of this evidence based or is it all speculation?

Speculation from both sides. The livestream and latest article were both ambiguous enough that both sides think they are right.

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Everything is Speculation. What makes it harder is that its clear GW was likely going to launch Luminoth and then at the same time or soon after launch the Giants. The whole shutdown has totally messed up any release plan GW had. So its very hard to make even logical guesses. 

That said when you look at most of the newer armies, Luminoth already have quite a good number for a starting force. A couple of leaders; a giant leader; several mages; a working core of battleline troops (heck they've perhaps got 3 with infantry, ranged and cavalry); then some specialist forces on top. It's right now about the same sort of size release that we saw for Ossiarchs, Daughters of Khiane and a few others. So it could well be the end of the current crop of Luminoth. 

Now GW might have something for 6 months time that they might advance forward to give them something more; they might have things for 6 months time that are now 12 months away etc... It's all very hard to guess at. 

 

 

My gut feeling is that GW could even stick to the old schedual and just double up for a couple of months. Sure stock would be an issue, but GW is going to have stock issues anyway. Thing is stock can eventually be recovered from, esp since GW will have healthy sales. So for non-limited releases GW could just go into production and keep churning stuff out even if some lines remain back ordered for a while. It would let them stick closer to their original release plan; which is important as its likely several years set in motion; suddenly throwing three or four months or more out the window is a big shift. 

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Very good preview, especially Necron Boi and the shadow elves, BUT what is up with that one elf's bondage trousers...?

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15 minutes ago, Overread said:

Everything is Speculation. What makes it harder is that its clear GW was likely going to launch Luminoth and then at the same time or soon after launch the Giants. The whole shutdown has totally messed up any release plan GW had. So its very hard to make even logical guesses. 

That said when you look at most of the newer armies, Luminoth already have quite a good number for a starting force. A couple of leaders; a giant leader; several mages; a working core of battleline troops (heck they've perhaps got 3 with infantry, ranged and cavalry); then some specialist forces on top. It's right now about the same sort of size release that we saw for Ossiarchs, Daughters of Khiane and a few others. So it could well be the end of the current crop of Luminoth. 

Now GW might have something for 6 months time that they might advance forward to give them something more; they might have things for 6 months time that are now 12 months away etc... It's all very hard to guess at. 

 

 

My gut feeling is that GW could even stick to the old schedual and just double up for a couple of months. Sure stock would be an issue, but GW is going to have stock issues anyway. Thing is stock can eventually be recovered from, esp since GW will have healthy sales. So for non-limited releases GW could just go into production and keep churning stuff out even if some lines remain back ordered for a while. It would let them stick closer to their original release plan; which is important as its likely several years set in motion; suddenly throwing three or four months or more out the window is a big shift. 

I agree with them sticking to their schedule. Why risk having potentially years worth of delays when they could just pump it out for a short while.

 Dropping the Lumineth and Sons together would be smart to make way for their next batch of releases and inevitable announcements.

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If there are only 3 models in the Daughters of Khaine warband, it should be easy enough for GW to write them a set of rules for Underworlds too, right!?

Easy money, GW. One kit for 3 games. Just throwing it out there.

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Just now, ManlyMuppet88 said:

If there are only 3 models in the Daughters of Khaine warband, it should be easy enough for GW to write them a set of rules for Underworlds too, right!?

Easy money, GW. One kit for 3 games. Just throwing it out there.

I believe they stated on the stream it was a full 10 member Warband and this was just a fraction of them.

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Guys I'm sorry I'm not letting this go, we need to talk about this.

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Does anyone know which Grand Alliance a pure Sons of Behemats army will belong to?

Will they boost the ranks of my beloved Destruction? We need some really big boys to join our ranks.

 

They would fit our ranks perfectly!

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7 minutes ago, Infeston said:

Does anyone know which Grand Alliance a pure Sons of Behemats army will belong to?

Will they boost the ranks of my beloved Destruction? We need some really big boys to join our ranks.

 

They would fit our ranks perfectly!

They are confirmed to be Destruction Alliance!! Nothing more Destruction than rampaging Gargants!!

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18 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:

Very good preview, especially Necron Boi and the shadow elves, BUT what is up with that one elf's bondage trousers...?

 

11 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:

Guys I'm sorry I'm not letting this go, we need to talk about this.

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Even Aelves have to air out the boys... know what I mean?...

 

Although I'm sure Aelven sweat smells like patchouli or something equally intoxicating. 

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14 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:

Guys I'm sorry I'm not letting this go, we need to talk about this.

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You're asking this about an army where the core infantry basically wear bikinis and long boots and charge at you with whips

 

 

Also remember the bulk of the DoK army is female - so far we only know of Doomfire Warlocks being the only males on the battlefield for them. 

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52 minutes ago, Overread said:

Everything is Speculation. What makes it harder is that its clear GW was likely going to launch Luminoth and then at the same time or soon after launch the Giants. The whole shutdown has totally messed up any release plan GW had. So its very hard to make even logical guesses. 

That said when you look at most of the newer armies, Luminoth already have quite a good number for a starting force. A couple of leaders; a giant leader; several mages; a working core of battleline troops (heck they've perhaps got 3 with infantry, ranged and cavalry); then some specialist forces on top. It's right now about the same sort of size release that we saw for Ossiarchs, Daughters of Khiane and a few others. So it could well be the end of the current crop of Luminoth. 

Now GW might have something for 6 months time that they might advance forward to give them something more; they might have things for 6 months time that are now 12 months away etc... It's all very hard to guess at. 

 

 

My gut feeling is that GW could even stick to the old schedual and just double up for a couple of months. Sure stock would be an issue, but GW is going to have stock issues anyway. Thing is stock can eventually be recovered from, esp since GW will have healthy sales. So for non-limited releases GW could just go into production and keep churning stuff out even if some lines remain back ordered for a while. It would let them stick closer to their original release plan; which is important as its likely several years set in motion; suddenly throwing three or four months or more out the window is a big shift. 

As of right now, Lumineth would be the smallest AOS faction, next to the new sons of Behemat, at 10 warscrolls. The next smallest army currently I believe is either IDK or KO at 15 warscrolls, (So half again as large as the currently revealed Lumineth range.)

In terms of model kits, the Lumineth would be the smallest new faction since Fyreslayers (again excepting Sons of Behemat which are a fundamentally different kind of army). Lumineth currently have 9 revealed,  The KO, IDK and OBR got 11 kits on launch.

People keep repeating that what we have seen of the Lumineth is the same size as other new army releases, but it's never true. Above are the numbers to compare.

 

To be clear, I hope for more, but it is certainly possible that this is it. My point is that, number of kits/warscrolls as a basis to guess at range size actually supports the idea that there are more to come, not that this is all we have.

 

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30 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:

Guys I'm sorry I'm not letting this go, we need to talk about this.

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now now, lets not start kink shaming him 😉

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18 minutes ago, Athrawes said:

umineth would be the smallest AOS faction, next to the new sons of Behemat, at 10 warscrolls.

Wait for the release. There are a lot of kits that have two (or three) warscrolls based on just some bits.

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28 minutes ago, Boytoy said:

now now, lets not start kink shaming him 😉

Dual Crossbows are always badass.

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13 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:

Dual Crossbows are always badass.

Duel multi-shot/rapid reloading Crossbows.

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I am huge DoK fan and I think those models fit their model range perfectly. They're not rank and file troops, but Morathi secret hit squads. No wonder we didn't hear about them before , also the leader is pure Daughters of Khaine 

- the part of the helmet with horns is Witch Elves design 

- the Shadow Cloak form kind of snakey design - linking it to Melusai

It fits as Morathi elite assassins.

We don't know how accurately Age of Sigmar will follow End Times but don't forget that Malerion wasn't that hot on Dark Elves in End Times - his most trusted general was Imirk who was High Elf Hero and Alith Anar sided with him as well and acknowledged him as his king. I think Malerion's force could be only in part inspired by old Aelf design, but more inspired by Shadows, Dragons and Caledor design. Shadow infused Caledor Dragons would be much more interesting that Dark Elves 2.0. 

It seems Morathi forces are more Dark Elven then Malerion's Aelves will ever be.  

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I thought Alith Anar shoot him with an arrow? Not familiar with the lore just heard it somewhere. 

That shadow elves look really cool. I like the old dark elves and their assasins.  

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I can see Morathi going for more classic looks. Of all the Aelven who survived I think she's perhaps the one most rooted in the Old World. The others are gods with their heads in the clouds and looking for the future; she's sort of cheating to get her godlike powers and was corrupted and twisted. She's bitter and this future for her is torment where she's weaker than those she was once equal or stronger than. For her the past was better before the world ended and whilst the others clearly are sore over the loss of their people; they appear to have moved on quite considerably. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Dukeus said:

I thought Alith Anar shoot him with an arrow? Not familiar with the lore just heard it somewhere. 

That shadow elves look really cool. I like the old dark elves and their assasins.  

Nope Alith Anar shoot Tyrion down saving Malekith’s life. Malekith as always lost and someone had to bail him out. 

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