Dirtnaps Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Popisdead said: On they latest S&Ws podcast there was mention of Ben Johnson stating there are more waves for Deepkin, Sylvaneth and someone else. They speculated the idea of using the beetle and swarm motif more in the range. If there was a mention of more waves for existing armies by a key person at GW the picture could align with the guess of a bug-like unit. Man I would love some kind of giant crab unit for Deepkin, I really think not having one in the first wave was a missed opportunity. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mr. White said: Out of curiosity...let's say there are more waves of Sylvaneth. Would that mean a new Battletome? Same with Deepkin. If some new units came out, would there be a new Battletome? So soon? I guess my perception of that logistic obstacle is why I've been ok with some armies lagging in the Battletome release schedule. I mean, I guess GW could throw a BT out there, but why if they know at some point they want to refresh/update the line? I get the sense from GW that any force that has new kits and battletome since the AoS launch won't get another one till everyone else gets their models/tomes. SCE are always going to be the special exception, but I imagine it'll be years till there's a re-release of any other tome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmanphill Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 20 hours ago, hughwyeth said: To be honest I'm surprised at the amount of brand new kits AoS is getting. Compare this year to 40k the last 2 years and AoS is getting way more. New kits take a lot of work to produce, so I'm surprised they haven't yet opted to do what they did for 8th 40k and just release all the battletomes that are missing. Just wait until next year, it'll be full steam ahead for new 40k models, they are not idle in that department at all! 37 minutes ago, Dirtnaps said: Man I would love some kind of giant crab unit for Deepkin, I really think not having one in the first wave was a missed opportunity. You got a giant turtle, more than a lot of armies got. 3 hours ago, hughwyeth said: What I love about AoS is the ability to field grand order armies! Especially with chaos, slaves to darkness makes total sense from the fluff. Not every follower of nurgle is going to be a daemon or a mortal with flesh falling off him. I see Slaves to Darkness and Beastmen being both relegated to the compendium/legacy stuff and being replaced with a combined faction: Dark Oath. Some models would come along with the new range but some would be left behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Redmanphill said: I see Slaves to Darkness and Beastmen being both relegated to the compendium/legacy stuff and being replaced with a combined faction: Dark Oath. Some models would come along with the new range but some would be left behind. I don't think that'll happen- either they will have to relable their STD plastic kits to darkoath, or they'll keep STD. The STD kits are all plastic and sell quite well. It's a lot of plastic to stop selling- i don't know of any multi-part plastic kit they've stopped selling for AoS yet from the fantasy sets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmanphill Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, hughwyeth said: I don't think that'll happen- either they will have to relable their STD plastic kits to darkoath, or they'll keep STD. The STD kits are all plastic and sell quite well. It's a lot of plastic to stop selling- i don't know of any multi-part plastic kit they've stopped selling for AoS yet from the fantasy sets? Bretonnia and Tomb Kings for example! I don't see them stopping the plastic kits but all the finecast stuff would go the way of the Dodo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Redmanphill said: Bretonnia and Tomb Kings for example! I don't see them stopping the plastic kits but all the finecast stuff would go the way of the Dodo. Haha. Apart from those two entire armies i was 100% right. Haha. Yeah finecast should go, but STD has so many plastic kits and a SC box and allegienace abilities in GH18, i can't imagine they'd scrap the range. I'm 50/50 between them staying exactly as they are (drop into a force with the allegiance keyword to fill certain gaps) or all being relabeled darkoath along with some new kits under a single battletome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenbeast Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, hughwyeth said: The STD kits are all plastic and sell quite well 13 minutes ago, Redmanphill said: Bretonnia and Tomb Kings for example! STD sell, Bretonnia ant TK (alongside some of the WE kits) were not selling anymore. If resin will go with Darkoath/Beastmen release they will have to replace a lot of stuff like the Beastlords, one shaman (old Malagor), the doombull and the chariot: all things that (as far as I know) sell quite well (not saying they are best sellers just that they sell enough). If then they will indeed discontinue those we...I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 To be fair those armies died more because of Kirby era management than anything else. At the time of Sigmar's launch I think the game plan was to steadily remove most of the fantasy content and replace it with a series of big releases every so often but no real armies or factions or anything. The fact that the rules were quite literally a joke at that stage I think showed that. I think the only things that saved sigmar at that stage were 1) They DID release some utterly awesome models! 2) Kirby stepped down and the Generals Handbook came out. Otherwise I'd wager we'd have seen more and more dropped from sale. In fact the initial fracturing of armies might have been intentional - break the armies display and then cut bits here and there until the whole army is gone to avoid the "my army is gone" backlash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. White Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) Rumor! I always heard the Bretonnian range was a bone thrown to the Perry twins to scratch their historical interest itch. The line gave them an opportunity to sculpt more traditional knights and men-at-arms and such. It seems it was less a line GW wanted and more a clause to appease their talent, near as I can tell. There were some sweet models in that range, but the rumor made sense. I'm not surprised it ultimately went away....and I say this as a guy who had a Bret army. Then again, I'm cool with the current direction of fantasy warhammer and would rather see GW continue to develop more new rather than revisit old... Edited August 22, 2018 by Mr. White 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Original fantasy was very much in that bridge of high and low fantasy as such. It had a lot of very staple troops for most armies (bar full beasts of chaos). High elves for a long while were basically spearmen, archers and riders and then a few fancy heroes with the dragon and eagle being their most fantasy element. If you look at a lot of the old core dark elves they are, again, mostly basic troops - spears, swords etc... Sigmar has very much pushed into full epic fantasy and with a very modern twist with a lot more fantastical beasts and armies now comprised of far fewer basic troops; with even those basic troops being specialist creatures not just your standard swordsman or spearman. The game has changed a lot, yet I could still see them bring back a Bretonian style faction; heck with the way that GW sculpts riders and mounts now they could do some utterly awesome sculpts of knights on horseback with flowing cloth and barding and armour and chainmail sweeping over the battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubyandwells Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Popisdead said: On they latest S&Ws podcast there was mention of Ben Johnson stating there are more waves for Deepkin, Sylvaneth and someone else. They speculated the idea of using the beetle and swarm motif more in the range. If there was a mention of more waves for existing armies by a key person at GW the picture could align with the guess of a bug-like unit. Thanks for listening! Just for reference, it wasn't Ben (GW staff can't talk about future releases), it was those up-to-no-good rumormongers here on TGA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffounet Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. White said: Out of curiosity...let's say there are more waves of Sylvaneth. Would that mean a new Battletome? Same with Deepkin. If some new units came out, would there be a new Battletome? So soon? Or, more likely, "just" an endless spell box for those factions without new battletomes. It's a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. White said: Out of curiosity...let's say there are more waves of Sylvaneth. Would that mean a new Battletome? Same with Deepkin. If some new units came out, would there be a new Battletome? So soon? I guess they will release new battletome, which I don't like. It makes me scared of buying any battletomes if they can be outdated shortly after purchase. Imho they should release small supplements, like they did for dragon chamber SC. Of course if they add lets say 5 units. If they are about to make army 2x as big then new battletome is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saiken Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 GOATS !!!!!! IT'S ON GUYS !!!! ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) Not usually tooting my own horn, but I kind of called it the other day. ? Still, could be GW misdirection again, but with the endless spell revealed last week I doubt it. Edited August 22, 2018 by Yokai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Ate A Bug Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Looking forward to Battletome : Suspicious Goats, late 2018/ early 2019 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, I Ate A Bug said: Looking forward to Battletome : Suspicious Goats, late 2018/ early 2019 Id be down for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I'd start a new army of Goaties uf they got some new models. Those new Bloodbowl Goats are great sculpts! If they brought them up to that lvl it would be a go for this customer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Very nice. I picked up 10 Ungors on a whim a while back. I think the kit still looks great. Centigors, the chariot, and all of the characters re still resin, however. Any chance some of them will be redone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 A battletome that recreates the old beasts of chaos book would be great. I just hope Moonstone is wrong about the lack of new kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swooper Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Sharkbelly said: all of the characters re still resin Well, the regular Great Bray Shaman is plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSentinel Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 While i'm curious to see what the beastmen get i'm detecting a distinct lack of grot, which is mildly concerning. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, SilentSentinel said: While i'm curious to see what the beastmen get i'm detecting a distinct lack of grot, which is mildly concerning. yeah if they don't release anything for Destruction soon, I feel like GW is just salting the Destruction playerbase even more. heck even I am even kind of getting salty over the possibility that Chaos may get Beastmen and Slaanesh soonish before Grots come out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Swooper said: Well, the regular Great Bray Shaman is plastic. Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for correcting. To be fair, destruction did get quite a few updates and new models right off the bat. I'm still waiting for my Dogs of war update. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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