Double Misfire Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 55 minutes ago, Morglum StormBasha said: Pretty sure that whether they name her or not it will be Isabella in my head canon - she one hundred percent survives end times with neferata Er, that tie-in novel has Tyrion straight up executing Eldyra (who apparently was a vampire with no reference to her ascending as the new elven god of the underworld), so I wouldn't take everything it says as consistent with the design studio's canon. Regardless, Isabella was never explicitly killed off in End Times: Archaon, so she's got as good a chance of turning up in AoS as anybody (not that dying in the End Times ever prevented Mannfred, Valkia or Scyla from turning up in AoS or having a successful Blood Bowl career ?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Okay I’m calling it*. AoS2.0 will be points per model! That the stormcast mage unit (evocateurs) ‘contains any amount of models’. Sure the magical liberators? Okay but a bit weird. But looking back, even the chainrasp horde is ‘any amount of models’. *although I’m most likely starting a rumour that will turn out to be false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainNippon Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kramer said: Okay I’m calling it*. AoS2.0 will be points per model! That the stormcast mage unit (evocateurs) ‘contains any amount of models’. Sure the magical liberators? Okay but a bit weird. But looking back, even the chainrasp horde is ‘any amount of models’. *although I’m most likely starting a rumour that will turn out to be false. One can dream ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophe Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 6/1/2018 at 10:45 PM, Hyperkinako said: Just realized why I'm getting a bride theme from this model, the head dress and rose thorns are stylized like Tim Burton's Corpse Bride. This must have been an influence on this range. Conveniently the Morr Garden is covered with such roses, it will fit her army very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syph0n Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I wouldn't read too much into the numbers on the warscrolls. Haven't we seen this before, but then matched play values show a unit has to be between x and y and so on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JReynolds Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 12 hours ago, Double Misfire said: Er, that tie-in novel has Tyrion straight up executing Eldyra (who apparently was a vampire with no reference to her ascending as the new elven god of the underworld), so I wouldn't take everything it says as consistent with the design studio's canon. Regardless, Isabella was never explicitly killed off in End Times: Archaon, so she's got as good a chance of turning up in AoS as anybody (not that dying in the End Times ever prevented Mannfred, Valkia or Scyla from turning up in AoS or having a successful Blood Bowl career ?). Hey, that's what happens when you have to write a tie-in novel in a month and some change without having access to the product it's ostensibly tied to. Fun times, fun times. 12 1 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverstu Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just had a thought -if it is Isabella [and by the roses etc I think it is ...] is Vlad in the Black Coach? So its not just a black coach its THE Black Coach, with Isabella driven to war to try and resurrect Vlad ? Possibly deceived by Nagash into thinking its possible? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmaster Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Might be, and it would open up an interesting narrative down the line, with vlad returning (and THE black coach downgraded to just a black coach). He could be the reason for a new line of vampires, maybe even outside Nagash's rule, but still in the death GA, and with human servants and followers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, silverstu said: Just had a thought -if it is Isabella [and by the roses etc I think it is ...] is Vlad in the Black Coach? So its not just a black coach its THE Black Coach, with Isabella driven to war to try and resurrect Vlad ? Possibly deceived by Nagash into thinking its possible? I'd thought that too, it's described somewhere as having a mortarch on board and there can't be that many of them, so it would make sense of it to be bumped up to named/unique status. The ghosts hovering outside appear to be carrying the deceased passenger's possessions, and the sword seen here isn't so different that it couldn't be Blood Drinker without the weird handle: 2 hours ago, JReynolds said: Hey, that's what happens when you have to write a tie-in novel in a month and some change without having access to the product it's ostensibly tied to. Fun times, fun times. Sorry, hadn't meant to cause any offence, it was a very well written novel overall and I've loved your recent stuff, especially Spear of Shadows. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, JReynolds said: Hey, that's what happens when you have to write a tie-in novel in a month and some change without having access to the product it's ostensibly tied to. That's an insanely short turn around! If I wore a hat, I'd take it off to you 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morglum StormBasha Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Yeah what Josh, Chris and Gav did with the end times book was incredible given the turnaround constraints. Now that new warhammer chronicles stories is a thing I’d love to see a few more end times event fleshed out. I also still want to see a story where someone stumbles across a realm gate from the old world and ends up in the new... we know it happened but we’ve never seen an example. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosaceos Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Double Misfire said: I'd thought that too, it's described somewhere as having a mortarch on board and there can't be that many of them, so it would make sense of it to be bumped up to named/unique status. Where was it said there's a Mortarch on board? I'd like to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 hours ago, JReynolds said: Hey, that's what happens when you have to write a tie-in novel in a month and some change without having access to the product it's ostensibly tied to. Fun times, fun times. I think you mean End Times, fun times, amirite? Also, the preview for your new book convinced me to take some Nuln Oil to a previously blue/white painted SCE force. Counts as Heldenhammer here we come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowki Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Double Misfire said: I'd thought that too, it's described somewhere as having a mortarch on board and there can't be that many of them, so it would make sense of it to be bumped up to named/unique status. The ghosts hovering outside appear to be carrying the deceased passenger's possessions, and the sword seen here isn't so different that it couldn't be Blood Drinker without the weird handle: Sorry, hadn't meant to cause any offence, it was a very well written novel overall and I've loved your recent stuff, especially Spear of Shadows. This is getting me close to being totally convinced it is vlad indeed. Everything so far seems to fit the story, and I like it. The mourning spirit of Isabella, taking her late husbands body everywhere she goes. Obviously all speculation, but I guess that is what a rumour thread is about in the first place, right? Still a good chance the new motarch is a new Character afterall, not known from the old world. The good thing about that would be, I think, that it gives a good opportunity to come up with a good and consistant background story, that doesn't need all kind of twist and plotturns that would be needed to me make the resurection of a former chracter, like Isabella, fighting for Nagash something likely to have happened. Not sure if that could be an argument when talking about fanatsy though. all, in all, I don't have a preference for either Isballa, or a new character, as long as it has some nice background story that brings flavor to the game. i would think with the ghostly theme, and the grieving mortarch there is more than enough material to do so. Edited June 7, 2018 by Lowki 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JReynolds Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Double Misfire said: I'd thought that too, it's described somewhere as having a mortarch on board and there can't be that many of them, so it would make sense of it to be bumped up to named/unique status. The ghosts hovering outside appear to be carrying the deceased passenger's possessions, and the sword seen here isn't so different that it couldn't be Blood Drinker without the weird handle: Sorry, hadn't meant to cause any offence, it was a very well written novel overall and I've loved your recent stuff, especially Spear of Shadows. Oh you didn't! Don't worry. I was being tongue in cheek. I knew I should have used an emoji. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Syf Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Could be Giles Le Breton with Abhorash in the coach #wishfulthinking 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I think Skarsnik is the new Mortarch of Grief and inside the coach is Gobbla. #youhearditherefirst 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Isabella as the mortarch of Grief makes sense. I could alos see her as being the manifestation of Grief for all the Dead, rather than being one spirit she is instead a manifestation/avatar. Could also be the Lady of the Lake mourning the loss of all of Bretonnia, doubt GW would poke that bear though. Art work looks amazing for this so far, really bringing the Grim Dark back to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Explorator Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 6:28 PM, Rogue Explorator said: It is clearly Skarsnik grieving the loss Gobblar. 23 minutes ago, Skabnoze said: I think Skarsnik is the new Mortarch of Grief and inside the coach is Gobbla. #youhearditherefirst Heard it here first indeed Seriously, I would much rather see the Mortarch of Grief being original to the World that was, we already have so many world-that-was characters running around, particularly in GA:Death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morglum StormBasha Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Whilst i do want new realm based characters to be fleshed out (I hope to goodness someone has hired guy Haley to do a moonclan focused book if they get a named character) death is the one alliance where I’m more than happy to see old names. Death is so tied to Nagash at the moment and all these characters had huge roles in his apotheosis - it makes sense they would stick around even thousands of years later. Now if they ever do a death mages faction or go back to flesh eater courts then they should get all new characters because they will be a mortal death faction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Explorator Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Morglum StormBasha said: Whilst i do want new realm based characters to be fleshed out (I hope to goodness someone has hired guy Haley to do a moonclan focused book if they get a named character) death is the one alliance where I’m more than happy to see old names. Death is so tied to Nagash at the moment and all these characters had huge roles in his apotheosis - it makes sense they would stick around even thousands of years later. Now if they ever do a death mages faction or go back to flesh eater courts then they should get all new characters because they will be a mortal death faction. Actually FEC are already tied up heavily with Ushoran, who is another old world (background) character. I feel that out of all Death forces so far, Nighthaunt is the most unique to the Mortal Realms. I guess I would just like to see that mirrored in the factions Mortarch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSwordmaster Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Are we expecting more Stormcast units other than the ones already shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmaster Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, ShadowSwordmaster said: Are we expecting more Stormcast units other than the ones already shown? Yes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSwordmaster Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bloodmaster said: Yes How much more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmaster Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, ShadowSwordmaster said: How much more? Some. As implied by the phrase "other than the ones already shown". At least the hero on a Gryphasus. Be you seen the Warhammer fest stuff? If not, we know of alternate versions of some of the starter box heroes, another hero, dual build kits of all units in the starter box, new cavalry. May be more will come as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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