Ogregut Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Yes, we know this from when they announced the update and gave us a heads-up that Stormdrake Guard points are changing. Those points changes are nowhere in the FAQs yet, so they must still be coming. The dragons point change has already happened. They updated the app when they announced the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Sharkbelly said: That MUST be a witch hunter, right? Stakes and a hammer? With the other Witch Hunters out already (the Ven Densts), will we see a whole expansion for Cities of Sigmar featuring Witch Hunters and Flagellants? That could very well be an Ogor Witch Hunter!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoby Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 The points: 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talas Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Is it just me or those are some pretty conservative changes? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Stormcast right now 2 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmGandix3 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Talas said: Is it just me or those are some pretty conservative changes? Yeah as a bonesplitterz player I now know for sure gw wants the army gone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 For my lists I will say: S2D: Oof right in the Chaos Sorcerer Lord! Also the Warshrine is a big increase for my army. But my chariot went down 5 points! Overall a win as I think the increases are warranted but lots of work on my list to bring it into line. Ogor Mawtribes: Gnoblars at 100 points now the mortal realms will tremble! SCE: Most of the listed named characters going down makes sense, but Gardus going down that is a huge surprise. Doesn't really impact my lists, although I have Gaveriel and Vandus but I tend to run them as generic units. Honestly other than my Slaves to Darkness getting some warranted increases I am pretty happy with the changes. The change in coalition rules takes the winds out of my plan of getting a demon army and then using Slaves to Darkness to fill out the points to run a small god specific faction for those armies. I still might do this though, as it provides me more ways to play but yeah this would lead to some very terribly inefficient armies. I really like the Amulet change it is still a great generic item but not an auto take and Unleash hell is much better this way as now the ranged units will need to deploy more strategically. I have no clues how Nagash, Kragnos and Archaon changed as we don't usually play with these units... but all my friends have been eying them lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronos Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Archaon does not get the allegiance abilities from the other Chaos armies, is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 The new Battlescroll feature has everybody noticed? Also new the Warscroll for Kragnos is nice… i rather find the battlescroll feature somehow intransparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feii Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, PJetski said: Stormcast right now Yeah those Fulminators and longstrikes are kinda surreal but it just shows bad design to have such a high dmg output on a unit imo. Especially without the amulet they will melt big boys too. (not like they werent able to do 20+ wounds per turn anyway) At the same time stormcast relics and traits are so bad rn. You don't even feel bad for including Krondys/Karazai as your general so you can battleline dragons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, PJetski said: Stormcast right now Careful what you wish for... don't forget he gets shot in the head about thirty seconds later 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Twin deagons no change. Gotrek 50 points nerf Irondrakes 20 points nerfs Meanwhile morathi no chance,kairos no change,teclis no change,gargants no change.......... Good work gw......... In what world irondrakes got a huge nerf when citys is middle tier but longstrikes dont get any change? Or thevother tierd god armys as morathi or gargants? Is the worst balance never done by gw Edited December 21, 2021 by Doko 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I am pretty disappointed concerning the underperfoming/underustilised units/allegiances, I was hoping for more attention to bring up stuff, not just (correctly, mind you) trying to bring down the overperfoming units 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Tzeentch Archaon is dead, huzzah! Kragnos has a sick new warscroll (he actually looks competitive now, possibly?) huzzah! This definitely isn't a GHB-rescaling like many of us were hoping/expecting, but it'll do. It certainly kicks the big monster heroes in the teeth a bit (the Heroic Recovery and Amulet changes are much needed in that regard.) Edited December 21, 2021 by Jaskier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyhedberg Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Y'all can discuss the changes here: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Turned out all the mawkrusha rumours are false. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Talas said: Is it just me or those are some pretty conservative changes? They have always been conservative with point change, probably why they started using increment of 5 so they can adjust more conservatively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 They've also made it clear what to expect from these Battleslates; a handful of points changes to each army, and a few key FAQs/Erratas here and there. This one does shake things up a bit, but not to the degree a GHB would - that's when you can expect points changes to most or all of a faction's units. While it's a shame this means we won't get more changes anytime soon, at least we now know where to set our expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 So our expectations gonna be no changes for top tier meta armys but nerfs to middle\botton tierd as have been this update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 The model of the year survey is up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/21/vote-now-for-miniature-of-the-year-2021-choose-your-winner/ And now we all have a choice to make: Do we vote for Sigvald like he deserves, or do we vote for the meme crab instead? 🦀🦀🦀 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccentricCircle Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: The model of the year survey is up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/21/vote-now-for-miniature-of-the-year-2021-choose-your-winner/ And now we all have a choice to make: Do we vote for Sigvald like he deserves, or do we vote for the meme crab instead? 🦀🦀🦀 The crab's meme-power is overwhelming, but for me it was a toss up between Kroak and the Dragons. I went with the great Slann relic priest, because I've not built a dragon yet, and felt my vote should go for a mini I am in the process of painting, rather than one I just like the look of in pictures. I wonder whether AoS has more of a chance this year, I may just have missed it, but I didn't spot a huge 40K character model in the list, which is what usually wins. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyhedberg Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Hard to pick... It's been so many great models this year. I did vote for Sigvald though. 2nd spot would probably be any of the cursed city heroes. And then perhaps the bladelords/loreseeker. I guess I can keep going.... Many good candidates! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericEdgyName Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Even GW wants it to happen, don't they? 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsesIII Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Lord Kroak has to be the best for me, easily. Super clever in its composition and just plain spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 For me it is Be'Lakor. I know that will make it another unit used in 40k but I feel like he has more lore in AoS/WHFB and is genuinely my favourite model they have ever produced. Sidvald is a close runner up alongside Bastian and meme Crab. Any other year and they would have had my vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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