Gothmaug Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 57 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I assume Kragnos is a Destruction guy and that there will be new Destruction models when BR: Kragnos gets released. I don't know if those will come in the form of a new faction or a new models for an existing faction, but I think it's a fairly safe bet that there will be something. I think this net with those heavy iron weights looks like it could be related to these rough iron weapons: They seem like they are on a similar tech level. So I'm fairly sure these are going to end up being weapons for the new melee-centric Beast Snaggas 40K Ork Faction. The bottom one in particular looks like the old Gretchen Runtherd or Boarboys chariot poker, and we know the beast snaggas are going to be heavily reliant on squigs, squig mounts and squig pulled vehicled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, HollowHills said: I'm going to say it's not jdoneth as it looks crude. Also, every time I call idoneth I'm wrong. So maybe this time if I'm wrong I'll be happy. The Net is also likely Ork Beast Snaggas clan for 40k. They recently revealed the faction, and if your job is snagging beasts, it seems the net would be appropriate. But I hope its for a AoS unit. Slaanesh gladiator/myrmidion unit seems right. Edited March 30, 2021 by Gothmaug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Gothmaug said: So I'm fairly sure these are going to end up being weapons for the new melee-centric Beast Snaggas 40K Ork Faction. The bottom one in particular looks like the old Gretchen Runtherd or Boarboys chariot poker, and we know the beast snaggas are going to be heavily reliant on squigs, squig mounts and squig pulled vehicled. I don't know, the Beast Snaggas stuff looks a lot techier: In the art, as well: 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I don't know, the Beast Snaggas stuff looks a lot techier: In the art, as well: I hope im wrong, I'd love to see a new Destruction army, or an addition to an existing one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 People are saying July because gw are have historically done July. I'm not convinced by it though. There have been a bunch of delays recently and the Evergiven situation may actually have caused some more. My biggest query is where Gardus and the nighthaunt hero are going to fit into things. They didn't say Kragnos would be the last book. Everyone was convinced there would be just 3 books with Alarielle after Morathi and Teclis but now we know there are at least 4. It has been a very AoS centric start to the year which I am very much enjoying but we've already seen 3 major releases for AoS and just a hint at 2 for 40k. Are we really going to get 2 more AoS armies before the end of summer? This year there have been 12 kits released for 40k including 4 in the killteam box. In the same timeframe there have been 19 kits for AoS, 2 underworlds warbands and cursed city. Looking into the future there have been 5 40k kits previewed, 9 for AoS, Be'lakor and 3 more underworlds warbands. I've been playing gw games for more than 30 years and the last time fantasy dominated the release schedule so much, 40k didn't exist. Surely gw have something major for 40k up their sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverstu Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Nezzhil said: NETS!!!! Actually I think its more like rigging than nets so either a ship, a war machine or a howdah.. Idoneth possibly, maybe destruction but it looks quite well made? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: Part of me sees new models for Ogors, hunters and trappers perhaps otherwise it must be for Kragnos and his Ogroid people. Dying on the hill!! The time of big lads has gone, the time of the small lads has come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, silverstu said: Actually I think its more like rigging than nets so either a ship, a war machine or a howdah.. Idoneth possibly, maybe destruction but it looks quite well made? Destruction lads are not silly, the Moonclan are experts making nets. How to make nets is basic of survivability in the caverns. 🤣 If the Gordrakk's Waaagh could make the biggest ram ever made, it isn't impossible that some gitz can make nets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, silverstu said: Actually I think its more like rigging than nets so either a ship, a war machine or a howdah.. Idoneth possibly, maybe destruction but it looks quite well made? I am reading Grotbag scuttlers confirmed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: The time of big lads has gone, the time of the small lads has come! I welcome all sized Lads as long as though Lads pledge themselves to the WAAAGH!! Just now, Neverchosen said: I am reading Grotbag scuttlers confirmed? There is every bit a chance!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, Chikout said: People are saying July because gw are have historically done July No, not this time, the source said July explicitly, because it heard so (could still be wrong, of course). It's also what Grimdark live said, but I don't know if those guys are reliable. Rob the Honest Wargamer seemed to give them credit. And yes, a lot of other things point to a new edition (AOS 2 will reach three years like the Stormcast Battletome, Broken Realms heralding "a new terrible era", 40k getting 9th ed. despite COVID, etc.). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: I am reading Grotbag scuttlers confirmed? Aboard Vampirate ships crewed by Chaos Duradin. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svalack Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) I think these are for a full undead ogre kit for soulblight. They have 2 models in WHQ and have been mentioned in the short story. I don't think even GW are low enough to release a battleforce(the ogre one) and replace the models months after (im assuming this could a delayed release too and should have come out way earlier) so i don't think its for destruction unless they are adding brand new types to the ogre range or something with a crude style as a new army. Edited March 30, 2021 by Svalack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 what's annoying about this rumor is that it looks like a toss-up between rigging and netting... but it doesn't look like useful rigging for climbing nor does it look like useful netting for catching. i'm going to go out on a limb and say it's part of an idol or banner? the supporting shafts are also not symmetrical: where I've circled should have another rope(?) tied between the bottom limb we can see and the next one that is assumedly offscreen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaylorCorvette Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said: Here is my wild speculation for AoS 3.0 & the narrative going forward, some spoilers from BR: Teclis. Spoiler Based on the image above and what happened to Nagash and Arkhan in BR: Teclis, I'm going to say that "Death" is going into rebuild mode. Perhaps the Ossiarch Bonereapers & Katakros will be the main ones in charge while Nagash "heals" and I have no idea what is going to happen to Arkhan. Maybe Nagash brings him back, maybe he is some new Ossiarch construct, etc. At the same time with Nagash being gone there is a power void and we know how the Vampires love to undermine each other (i.e. Mannfred and Neferata in BR: Teclis) in addition, Soulblight Gravelords will be out soon, so I think that is how they fit into the narrative now. Due to being defeated by Teclis and probably retreated into some hole to "heal" Nagash now doesn't have such an iron fist grip on all Death related things and the Vampires are going to exploit this increase in autonomy. Also I saw someone post and this is the perfect time to rework the three Mortarch Models and really differentiate them. AoS 2.0 was Death making big moves and we have hints at Orruks wanting to push in Azyr, and I think this could be the theme of AoS 3.0. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khalas Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 World Eaters: 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) I don’t think the majority of those rumour engines are connected to the Beast Snaggas, they’re crude and scrappy in the extreme, beyond what you get with 40k orks in general or with the previewed hog-rider. The exception is that curved, jagged, sharks fin spearhead, which already doesn’t look like the others, much too machine-worked. Other than that, it’s quite a cohesive style. Also WHC has a White Dwarf preview which mentions a flashpoint campaign featuring Be’Lakor vs Seraphon. Given what happened with the BR Teclis content in WD and knowing how far in advance the magazine is prepped, this confirms at least one of the factions that will feature in BR: Be’Lakor. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/30/change-the-fate-of-the-broken-realms-with-white-dwarf-463s-narrative-campaign/ Edited March 30, 2021 by sandlemad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said: No, not this time, the source said July explicitly, because it heard so (could still be wrong, of course). It's also what Grimdark live said, but I don't know if those guys are reliable. Rob the Honest Wargamer seemed to give them credit. And yes, a lot of other things point to a new edition (AOS 2 will reach three years like the Stormcast Battletome, Broken Realms heralding "a new terrible era", 40k getting 9th ed. despite COVID, etc.). You misunderstand me. I'm saying that rumour may well be made up because it is a lot of very safe bets. Also I don't doubt that a new edition is coming, I just very firmly on team "delayed until later in the year" for the reasons I explained. I think we should have got Slaanesh last year and broken realms 2 in February. 40k did get 9th edition but even that was delayed, also all of the production work on that edition would have been completed pre covid. A big chunk of the work of this edition would have been scheduled for the middle of the pandemic lock down. It seems somewhat likely that part of the reason why the power levels of the recent books are so disparate is because of the effects the lock down had on playtesting. There is now way the development of third edition hasn't been impacted. I will be genuinely surprised if AoS arrives on schedule in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) I'm sceptical about 3.0 also, because if we assume Kragnos is going to be heralding a new range or at least a sizeable expansion to say... Kurnothi/Sylvaneth, coupled with the Lumineth we're getting this Saturday and the not-inconsiderable Soulblight release coming in the not too distant future, that's a whole lot of AoS coming without accounting for the inevitable 3.0 boxset most likely expanding on Stormcast and whatever 3.0's opposition faction is. Even 40k didn't get that amount of releases running up to 9.0 and that's their golden goose. Edited March 30, 2021 by Clan's Cynic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 i think what they did was cut out all the Specialist game release as well Warcry and Killteam to get caught up in the schedule for the main ones , they also didn't do any of the long two week preorder that usually happen on big release. also Shareholder pressure also mean they are going to keep the new edition release on schedule. hell they even slow 40k codex and been blazing through the AoS stuff for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: I'm sceptical about 3.0 also, because if we assume Kragnos is going to be heralding a new range or at least a sizeable expansion to say... Kurnothi/Sylvaneth, coupled with the Lumineth we're getting this Saturday and the not-inconsiderable Soulblight release coming in the not too distant future, that's a whole lot of AoS coming without accounting for the inevitable 3.0 boxset most likely expanding on Stormcast and whatever 3.0's opposition faction is. Even 40k didn't get that amount of releases running up to 9.0 and that's their golden goose. The new range related to BR Kragnos could be the next faction that appears in AoS 3.0. Slaanesh was released after BR Morathi and Gravelords is gonna be released after BR Teclis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, khalas said: World Eaters: Damn, this is a good catch. Fits perfectly with their gladiatorial style. They already have a 30k unit with a mix of weapons like this, I can see a retiarius unit or character or weapon option in a forthcoming World Eaters codex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) Seem like Belakor is going to be fighting lizards in his broken realms book. Edited March 30, 2021 by Ogregut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericEdgyName Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Regarding the rumour engine, ya'll are obviously missing the obvious - it's skaven 4 21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: I'm sceptical about 3.0 also, because if we assume Kragnos is going to be heralding a new range or at least a sizeable expansion to say... Kurnothi/Sylvaneth, coupled with the Lumineth we're getting this Saturday and the not-inconsiderable Soulblight release coming in the not too distant future, that's a whole lot of AoS coming without accounting for the inevitable 3.0 boxset most likely expanding on Stormcast and whatever 3.0's opposition faction is. Even 40k didn't get that amount of releases running up to 9.0 and that's their golden goose. Yet the huge amount of boxsets for slannesh, lumineth and upcoming soulblight show they are willing to invest in AoS. I think people need to get out of the mindset that because they haven't done something in the past it means they won't do it. Releasing a big range makes sense as you cover a lot of bases. You have people who want a new army and buy everything. People who want to expand an army and buy some. Painters and collectors who buy the bits they like. This really is a excellent time to be in this wonderful hobby of ours. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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