Garrac Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 11 minutes ago, Jagged Red Lines said: Is there another preview coming up? I remember when Dominion launched there was a prerelease preview with upcoming stormcast and kruelboyz range additions. If they intend to release Agents before august, there should be one, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Do you think the order of the faction focuses somewhat (big emphasis on somewhat) mirrors the launch order of 4.0 Bts ? Obviously we got SCE and Skavens as they’re the starter factions and will be getting their Bts first, but today we got GSG, do you think GSG will be the first Destruction Bt of AoS4 ? I just compared it with the 40k Faction Focus ones and the list there doesn't match at all: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 They're only doing the list in this order because they want to start with one book from each grand alliance. I wonder if they'll stick to 4 a week. That would take them right up to a pre-order on June 29th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 32 minutes ago, Jagged Red Lines said: Is there another preview coming up? I remember when Dominion launched there was a prerelease preview with upcoming stormcast and kruelboyz range additions. There may be one but I'm not expecting one. We've sort of had the one(s) that would have covered WarhammerFest or the UK Game Expo (which GW are not sponsoring this year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I can't wait for more Warcry news, and hopefully 3rd edition with another banger launch set. I haven't been this excited for AoS or Warcry in a while, it feels like anything can happen again! AoS4 is looking more approachable and neat than ever rules-wise, I love the lore implications of the Vermindoom and I can't wait for the Duardin Faction Focusses (Foci?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosskelot Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 They might either do a Skaventide release day stream announcing the rest of the new models for SCE and Skaven. Or they'll do an Oghram style thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I think it’ll be a mini campaign for the box owners like they did last year - hopefully the Skaven win it like the Nids did last year so we can see what’s cooking beyond the launch box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: I think it’ll be a mini campaign for the box owners like they did last year - hopefully the Skaven win it like the Nids did last year so we can see what’s cooking beyond the launch box. But maybe they cover that with the campaign they are currently running in the stores? No one leaked us anything about an Oghram-like event yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 31 minutes ago, Chikout said: They're only doing the list in this order because they want to start with one book from each grand alliance. I wonder if they'll stick to 4 a week. That would take them right up to a pre-order on June 29th. If something from last year must be taken out, it's that we'll have 5 weekly faction focuses. We're having 4 this one because it's 24 factions and one of the weeks had to had only 4. Release on the 6th of july, mark my words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 32 minutes ago, Garrac said: If something from last year must be taken out, it's that we'll have 5 weekly faction focuses. We're having 4 this one because it's 24 factions and one of the weeks had to had only 4. Release on the 6th of july, mark my words. I'm sure that was the plan but there have been persistent rumours of a delay and the closure of the warehouse for a week suggests this might be true. Also @Elarinhas been pretty reliable so far and they are saying pre-order on the 29th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chikout said: I'm sure that was the plan but there have been persistent rumours of a delay and the closure of the warehouse for a week suggests this might be true. Also @Elarinhas been pretty reliable so far and they are saying pre-order on the 29th. Well, then, unmark my words, I guess Edited May 23 by Garrac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappgrot Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 9 minutes ago, Garrac said: Well, then, unmaek my words, I guess Nah that is about right preoder aorund the 29th would lead to a release in july Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappgrot Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 4 hours ago, Enoby said: Agreed. While it's not nice to have an army with natural 5+s to hit or wound, it's important for the diversity of the game to actually use the higher two numbers on a d6. I think AoS began to suffer from everything feeling like it was on 3/3 or better (after buffs), so whether you were against highly trained elves or a horde of squigs it all felt very similar. Personally, I'd like to see more models like zombies actually need 6s to hit, but for their strength to lie elsewhere - for example, being really easy to regenerate and super cheap. In the very beginning of AoS 0, 4+ was the good average - hence why Stormcast and Khorne (elite armies) were on 2 attacks, 3/4/-/1. Quickly, everything began to tunnel down to more 3/3/-/1 profiles, and then rend became more common too. I think it ended up homogenising the game, and actually reducing the flavour (if everyone is super, no one's super kind of thing). I don't think it'll happen, but I'd have actually liked to have seen more 'bad' warscrolls, so the average settles back higher, and truly elite models stand out. On of the things that makes this a bit problemetic is that the higher two numbers on the d6 are way way way worse then the lower numbers 2/2 being 25 out of 36. 3/3 Being 16 out of 36 4/4 being 9 out of 36 and 5/5 =4 out of 36 and 6/6 1 out of 36. The drop of at the end is really steep. A 3/3 model is 4x as likely to wound as a 5/5 model. So you could make them 4x as expensive shure but the are also lots of spaceing problems whit that manny models. WHit the lower stats the units become useless at dealing dammage. So they must indeed find strengts elsewhere like just gumming up the board whit bodies. But that might be hard to ballance. On of the thing is worrie about whit 4th is that whit moral gone it's going to be possible to just drown an opponent in bodies and the game beeing over from turn 1 since there is just no way to deal enough dammage in 5 turns to have a sifnificant impact. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) Lore article on the Hour of Ruin, and just how widespread the Skaven are now. Edited May 23 by Clan's Cynic 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 8 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Lore article on the Hour of Ruin, and just how widespread the Skaven are now. Two major things to note: 1: Emberguard (Ruined). 2: The icons shaped like evil Duardin heads. Including the Forge Anathema, which we know to be a Chaos Duardin stronghold. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copywolf Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, BarakUrbaz said: Two major things to note: 1: Emberguard (Ruined). 2: The icons shaped like evil Duardin heads. Including the Forge Anathema, which we know to be a Chaos Duardin stronghold. Those Icons also seem to be labeled as Hashut Forge-cities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrozatarim Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Verdigris wins the bout, as last city standing! Embergard is KO'd! I also love that the Skaven have made progress in Shyish by dint of simply dying in such horrific numbers in the other realms 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elarin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Garrac said: If something from last year must be taken out, it's that we'll have 5 weekly faction focuses. We're having 4 this one because it's 24 factions and one of the weeks had to had only 4. Release on the 6th of july, mark my words. I think the timeline will look like this: 21st June: last Faction Focus article 23rd June: pre-order announcement 29th June: start of pre-orders 13th July: release day 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus The Blue Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 49 minutes ago, Zappgrot said: On of the things that makes this a bit problemetic is that the higher two numbers on the d6 are way way way worse then the lower numbers 2/2 being 25 out of 36. 3/3 Being 16 out of 36 4/4 being 9 out of 36 and 5/5 =4 out of 36 and 6/6 1 out of 36. The drop of at the end is really steep. A 3/3 model is 4x as likely to wound as a 5/5 model. So you could make them 4x as expensive shure but the are also lots of spaceing problems whit that manny models. WHit the lower stats the units become useless at dealing dammage. So they must indeed find strengts elsewhere like just gumming up the board whit bodies. But that might be hard to ballance. On of the thing is worrie about whit 4th is that whit moral gone it's going to be possible to just drown an opponent in bodies and the game beeing over from turn 1 since there is just no way to deal enough dammage in 5 turns to have a sifnificant impact. A related issue is the impact of modifiers: -1 to hit on a 2+ is a 20% reduction in effectiveness but on 5+ it's a 50% reduction. To wound is less likely to be impacted as modifiers are less common, but 5+ to hit always feels like a liability if there are any reliable sources of -1 (for example cover in 4th). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemeta Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 i expect some counter attack from Hashut's duardin against skaven in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Garrac said: If something from last year must be taken out, it's that we'll have 5 weekly faction focuses. We're having 4 this one because it's 24 factions and one of the weeks had to had only 4. Release on the 6th of july, mark my words. July 13, yes-yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Lore article on the Hour of Ruin, and just how widespread the Skaven are now. HASHUT FORGE-CITY!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH Edited May 23 by Nezzhil 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 SKILL ISSUE, ZENESTRA! VERDIGRIS ENDURES! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkayestDM Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 34 minutes ago, Acrozatarim said: Verdigris wins the bout, as last city standing! Embergard is KO'd! I also love that the Skaven have made progress in Shyish by dint of simply dying in such horrific numbers in the other realms Genuinely my favorite part from the article. They're literally winning for losing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 9 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: HASHUT FORGE-CITY!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH Easy list for 4th edition big/mid size releases: Stormcast Skaven Cities Chorfs Kharadron Fyreslayers Idoneth DoK Lumineth Seraphon Ossiarch 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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