Satyrical Sophist Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 15 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Well, indexes are not that far in time. So who knows what we could expect from the damnified factions Assuming that there are indices could be a lot of changes. I’m hopeful there won’t be, I quite like AoS as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 37 minutes ago, Deakz28 said: Probably for the best probably, still the magnitude of changes that the Fusiliers got in the very short time span of the BT life is pretty staggering, the kind of stuff which justifies arguments about "pump and dump" tactics to sell models (which I generally find unconvincing) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 21 minutes ago, alyra said: what the are those changes??? some op armys like khorne big wagh or bones didnt was touched, but others like idonet got utterly deletted???? they were allready among worst army since that absurded came out. only got up with last fuethan change and it got totally deleted now, making even worse than before. AND they deleted the eidolon of sea for unknowns reasons..... i was expecting a -50p on him since he has been useless whole book. dont get why they decided to delete it completly now, making his spell work only to melee. and kroak build got hit really hard with a hike of around 100p and the removal of 3 summon points per turn and anothers 2-3 more on oponnent turn if they do lot of magic. and why everyone got 2" on his weapons, but saurus with mace keep with 1" or idoneth eels with spears only 1" too, or bite mechanic of seraphon keep being useless, nedding 1" on every model etc.... and will have to play with this thing untill new edittion LOL The tactics update is pretty big for Big Waaagh. Idoneth have been doing really well lately - especially shark spam. I tell ya that Deepkin have one of books that’s sort of a miss for third, but these changes you mentioned seem fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 It's annoying that they don't include the old text so we know what the changes are. The Eidolon spell went from 12 to 18 inch range and went from d3 units to 3 units. The melee thing isn't new. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huanchi Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 This feels so rushed 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deakz28 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, Huanchi said: This feels so rushed Sometimes it can feel that way at the end of an edition, normally they are looking for a quick meta shift before the edition end, happens in 40K too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 41 minutes ago, RetconnedLegion said: Finally, now we can have a break from whinging on every GW social media post. I think GW is to blame, not the people. For many players this document is far more important than new minis. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someravella Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Why isn't the question "Are BoC being squatted?" in the BoC FaQ? Indeed, it is a frequently-asked question. Edited February 16 by Someravella 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 11 minutes ago, Chikout said: It's annoying that they don't include the old text so we know what the changes are. The Eidolon spell went from 12 to 18 inch range and went from d3 units to 3 units. The melee thing isn't new. The warcom article has that info. But it could be in the pdfs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 15 minutes ago, Marcvs said: probably, still the magnitude of changes that the Fusiliers got in the very short time span of the BT life is pretty staggering, the kind of stuff which justifies arguments about "pump and dump" tactics to sell models (which I generally find unconvincing) For how long the Cities book took to come out, it is surprising how half-baked some of the warscrolls and interactions in it were. The Alchemite probably being the worst offender, but the Command Corps, Zenestra, and the Hurricanum were also pretty glaring examples of a lack of care. Not to mention the Hammerers missing their command group rules. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 34 minutes ago, alyra said: only got up with last fuethan change and it got totally deleted now, making even worse than before. Spam lists should be obliterated ASAP, always. Otherwise factions end up in a strange place - at a glance everything seems fine, as the overall winrate is good, but then you dig deeper and, behold, it's always Fuethan Allopex circus. Gross. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungnisson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 And I'm just here to quietly celebrate some weapons range increases for FS, NH and SCE ☺ 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Wow what a completely pointless update. Everyone waited all this time for basically nothing. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, Malakithe said: Wow what a completely pointless update. Everyone waited all this time for basically nothing. I don't know, they did completely wreck my Cities list. That has to count for something. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagard Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Malakithe said: Wow what a completely pointless update. Everyone waited all this time for basically nothing. Lots of changes here, and for most of the factions. Even a new generic battle tactic and new rules for a generic battalion. It's not because your army has not get what you wanted that it is a pointless update for everyone. Many dumb lists are not playable anymore thanks to this battlescroll and it is for the best Edited February 15 by Vagard 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) My personal belief on how the Fyreslayers range boost works: Think about it, Vulkite Berzerkers have short arms and fairly short length to their weapons. Its the only logical explanation. Edited February 15 by BarakUrbaz 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonic Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I was just thinking how much had changed and other people are complaining it changed nothing. The miracles of perspective! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 23 minutes ago, Deakz28 said: Sometimes it can feel that way at the end of an edition, normally they are looking for a quick meta shift before the edition end, happens in 40K too This. Plus I suspect they have been playing the new edition for ages and working on it, so it's weird for them to manage things! 4 minutes ago, Malakithe said: Wow what a completely pointless update. Everyone waited all this time for basically nothing. I wouldn't call it pointless. The points drops were interesting. As were the minor tweaks to some tactics. Also the range increases were cool. In fact it's not a bad update, but it wasn't going to be earth shattering due to the new edition round the corner. 4 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I don't know, they did completely wreck my Cities list. That has to count for something. I'll give it a A+ then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 minutes ago, Gaz Taylor said: I'll give it a A+ then first of all, how dare you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I actually retract my statement, because they completely reworked the Null Myriad so now it’s an army-wide 4+ Spell Shrug. It’s less consistent than the other one but far easier to get. This I actually am a big fan of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: indexes are not that far in time I hope you are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellman Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 16 minutes ago, Malakithe said: Wow what a completely pointless update. Everyone waited all this time for basically nothing. this alone makes me want get my old nighthaunt army back up so i say fairly significant changes 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Kinda meh for my stuff. My ironjawz as of yet finished army just gained an extra 90 points though. Edited February 16 by Vasshpit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnkdth Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 This makes me want to try a "beseech the gods" type of list. Quite a nice lil' glowup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatforce Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Love that Kroxigors got an extra wound, made no sense them being 4 not 5. Was hoping that Saurus would go down in points, imo they should not be the same cost as Chaos Warriors, who are just way better. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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