Overread Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, Walrustaco said: Quiet you. Bonereapers, we were told October for sure. Cities, Orruks and Mawtribes we dont have a clue other than vague mentionings at Nova or whatever. What noo you've got confirmed to be before Bonereapers from a news post! The more you get delayed* the more Bonereapers gets delayed. It could even get so bad that the preorder happens in October but not actual models appearing in our hands (although granted for me that isn't a totally bad thing since it would, in theory, give me more time to find people who want high elf chariots) *accepting for the fact that at present, far as we know, neither Cities nor Orruks are delayed, they are just later than we like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alghero81 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 To me cities and Orruks not being this week is a good thing as it can still mean they are not only a book but could have something more, from a reboxing to spells or terrain. But at least enough to occupy the entire week. And who knows, not impossible a start collecting box for cities, although extremely improbable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 The little Ghur-themed terrain is neat. Would make nice objective markers for AoS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kugane Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, alghero81 said: To me cities and Orruks not being this week is a good thing as it can still mean they are not only a book but could have something more, from a reboxing to spells or terrain. But at least enough to occupy the entire week. And who knows, not impossible a start collecting box for cities, although extremely improbable? Doubtful. Bonereapers are said to be released at the end of october and COS ans Orruks should be at least a week before that, which leaves only a 4 week gap for stuff to actually be reveales and the whole "pre order next week" thing to make it out there before bonereapers preorders go up. That feels rushed for GW standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Good lord. It's a book and cards release. Yet another week minimum to find out what I can create. I'm so excited for the sandbox this book seems like it's going to be. This wait as the Marine release gets stretched out like crazy has been annoying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Misread, disregard. Edited September 15, 2019 by Still-young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blightzkrieg Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I have to wonder about the thought process that went into the CoS and Orruk release. There's no way they'd intentionally mishandle two of the most demanded books at once, but at some point what other explanation is there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManlyMuppet88 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 How have they mishandled them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoby Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I collect neither CoS or Orks, but I do feel for those who do - it seems GW got everyone excited and then had a huge wave of culling and then... nothing. I understand they were presented as a release for the future, but assuming there are no new models then it should really be an easy release - over in one or two weeks. Considering the demand for these books seems to be very high and they're not a big release, it seems really odd that GW have kind of left us hanging on a sour note with the culling. If there's some delay, you'd think they'd tell us as per the Sylvaneth delay. Like I said, I don't play either of these armies, but I feel sorry for those who do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I wonder if CoS and orruks got stuck in the same way Sylvaneth did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Charleston said: I wonder if CoS and orruks got stuck in the same way Sylvaneth did They had copies at Open Day so I don't think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Charleston said: I wonder if CoS and orruks got stuck in the same way Sylvaneth did It's possible but given how they made a video up and communicated the issue last time makes it seem unlikely a similar problem happened here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blightzkrieg Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, ManlyMuppet88 said: How have they mishandled them? Announced super far in advance compared to normal releases with no additional previews. Deliberate misrepresentation of how the miniature lineups would change. Dodging a question regarding their status with what was either misinformation or a lie. I'm not going to say it's the worst thing a company has ever done (it's relatively benign), but it's far below GW's normal standards for how they treat releases, and raises a lot of questions. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, ManlyMuppet88 said: How have they mishandled them? Perhaps they are gearing up for Orruk-tober? Announce next Sunday and release October 5th? Maybee they are prepping some super-secret free cities vs orruk boxed set, with overlapping terrain that can be utilized by either faction! A whole 2 weeks of orruk/free cities fun before they release the new undead for Halloween on the 31st. We can dream, right?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManlyMuppet88 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Blightzkrieg said: Announced super far in advance compared to normal releases with no additional previews. Deliberate misrepresentation of how the miniature lineups would change. Dodging a question regarding their status with what was either misinformation or a lie. The announcement was what, two months ago? There was something like a seven month wait between the Death Guard preview and release so I would say we’re well inside normal for GW. Not sure about the other two because I don’t know what you’re referring to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrix Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, ManlyMuppet88 said: The announcement was what, two months ago? There was something like a seven month wait between the Death Guard preview and release so I would say we’re well inside normal for GW. Not sure about the other two because I don’t know what you’re referring to. For a recent GW announcement it was kinda far in advance (I want to say AOS previewed battletomes have all been out within a month or two in the past couple years), it is also a book that frankly, should have been released years ago. They did a large model cull that left the component armies of Free city in an even worse limbo than they were before with no hints or previews of how they will play in the new battletome. Finally at NOVA they said Free Cities were too soon to release to answer questions about the battletome. This has been followed by no battletome release or previews and items previewed at NOVA being released. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 The Nova isn't the worst, its the removal of models with no reward that is the bad timing really. It's also leaving a lot of people in both Orruks and Free Cities sitting on money wanting to spend; wanting to finally get their armies 2.0 running and old HE players wanting to console themselves with using their armies for alternative models or at least buy into new forces - all WAITING. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 That’s because they were caught at Nova unprepared, I assume someone dropped the ball on orruks/free cities. For all we know there was a big box of related stuff that marketing forgot to mail to Nova. The “too soon to talk about” line is GW covering their behind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyshadow Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Beastgrave Terrain would make cool scatter Terrain for a Realm of Metal board. Maybe next week for cities then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 TBH I don't think CoS and Orruk Clan are considered complete full releases by GW (compared to Ossiach) given that they are coming without endless spells or terrain. these are probably placeholder tomes until they decided to release more stand alone armies like Kurnothi, Devoted of Sigmar, or a big Ironjawz release when AoS 3.0 comes out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I don't see why GW would release placeholder Battletomes at this stage. They removed a lot of the High Elf and all of the Tombkings and Bretonnia. If GW wanted whole armies gone they'd remove them right now. Damage has already been done through removals and I think GW would rather they removed anything that they were going to fully cut now rather than prolong it into 3.0. Otherwise all they are doing it setting themselves up for a bigger fall. Imagine if they dropped 2.0 armies - the backlash would be nasty. Plus its not just backlash from those armies, but from all the AoS customers. Suddenly we are back to AoS near launch when people are not spending any more. Why would people spend on 3.0 armies if GW starts removing whole armies all over again. We've also not heard that Orruks and Cities are not getting terrain/spells formally; we've just heard that they might be different to what we've seen thus far. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 The tin foil hat conspiracy theories about the CoS are quite funny. Seems to show more how impatient people are and shows a sense of entitlement. GW didn't have to give a preview at NOVA, would you rather not knowing what's coming out. Anyway, to talk rumours the counters being released for beastgrave have future warbands in mind, any guesses what they may be from the few shown? 2 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, Overread said: I don't see why GW would release placeholder Battletomes at this stage. They removed a lot of the High Elf and all of the Tombkings and Bretonnia. If GW wanted whole armies gone they'd remove them right now. Damage has already been done through removals and I think GW would rather they removed anything that they were going to fully cut now rather than prolong it into 3.0. Otherwise all they are doing it setting themselves up for a bigger fall. Imagine if they dropped 2.0 armies - the backlash would be nasty. Plus its not just backlash from those armies, but from all the AoS customers. Suddenly we are back to AoS near launch when people are not spending any more. Why would people spend on 3.0 armies if GW starts removing whole armies all over again. We've also not heard that Orruks and Cities are not getting terrain/spells formally; we've just heard that they might be different to what we've seen thus far. I not saying they would drop any stuff but these are like just LoN tomes where they combine stuff for now, but then release a new tome down the line like Nighthaunt or what they do with Space marine specific chapters codexes. like CoS is just souping the current old models but something like Wanderers would just branch out into it own army (Kurnothi) in the future and own allegiance and rules instead of playing by specific city rules. and Ironjawz probably get their range expanded in the future maybe in AoS 3.0 since it probably going (of in fairness should be) to be Stormcast versus a Destruction faction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrix Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Ogregut said: The tin foil hat conspiracy theories about the CoS are quite funny. Seems to show more how impatient people are and shows a sense of entitlement. GW didn't have to give a preview at NOVA, would you rather not knowing what's coming out. Anyway, to talk rumours the counters being released for beastgrave have future warbands in mind, any guesses what they may be from the few shown? I'll error on the side of being nice in my response but that is incredibly rude and obnoxious. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 The silence part of all of this is the strangest element. Communication has been new GWs best trait. We're seeing Psychic Awakening and Beastgrave previews ahead of their release but have heard nothing since the initial preview and then cull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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