Liquidsteel Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I'd have to bring it up again as it was a few weeks ago. It was a discussion I'd had with Ritchie, the owner of JustPlay, talking about a list he'd seen James Tinsdale run in store, so not a first hand account. My feeling is that the dreadblade Harrow general is universally better due to the board control, however the above mentioned list can pack a much bigger punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_Duardin Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I'd been looking at a list with Olynder and Neferata myself but that may be due to how the rest of the list is built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoogens Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Thoughts on this LoG list? Two huge tarpits with mediocre killing power, two crazy hammers - with the ability to reroll hits on both (due to reapers inherit ability, and the chainghast for the revenants), and the ability to hit twice with whoever a Necro can reach. Combine it with the Dreadblade Leader who can teleport to a appropriate gravesite and ressurect a unit. Dire Wolves for some extra objective grabbing in those battleplans where there's a ton of them. Thoughts so far: Spirit Torment for supporting the Chainrasps. Possibly replace with something else. Allegiance: Legion of Grief LEADERS Necromancer (130) Necromancer (130) Dreadblade Harrow (90) - General Spirit Torment (120) UNITS 40 x Skeleton Warriors (280) - Ancient Spears 5 x Dire Wolves (70) 5 x Dire Wolves (70) 40 x Chainrasp Horde (280) 30 x Grimghast Reapers (420) 20 x Bladegheist Revenants (320) 2 x Chainghasts (70) TOTAL: 1980/2000 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 0 WOUNDS: 174 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayul Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I like it, but I hope you use movement trays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoogens Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 59 minutes ago, Bayul said: I like it, but I hope you use movement trays. Hehe, I do - might have to get a few more if I'm going to run this list though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrometheus Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Any suggestions for a 1250 point teams list for LoG? I was thinking something like this:Allegiance: Legion of GriefMortal Realm: HyshLeadersNecromancer (130)- Spell: Dread WitheringDreadblade Harrow (90)- General- Command Trait: Vassal of the Craven King- Artefact: Aetherquartz BroochKnight of Shrouds (100)Battleline20 x Chainrasp Horde (160)20 x Chainrasp Horde (160)Units5 x Bladegheist Revenants (90)5 x Bladegheist Revenants (90)30 x Grimghast Reapers (420)Total: 1240 / 1250Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 200Wounds: 95 Basic idea is go horde and swarm objectives, keep Revenants in the grave and pop them out to go after heroes/key units. My partner will most likely be playing FEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piikalo1 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Is legion of grief an extension of the legions of nagash book? I ask because im wondering if I can somehow play deathmarch battalion in the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnixLHQ Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Piikalo1 said: Is legion of grief an extension of the legions of nagash book? I ask because im wondering if I can somehow play deathmarch battalion in the list No, LoG is it's own thing, at least for now. No allies, no battalions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayul Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Piikalo1 said: Is legion of grief an extension of the legions of nagash book? I ask because im wondering if I can somehow play deathmarch battalion in the list No, it's neither an extension of the LoN nor Nighthaunt battletome and you can't use any battalions whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZLee Syn Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 What do you guys think about this list? Dreadblade harrow (general, vasal of the craven king) Necromancer (aetherquartz brooch, -1 save spell) Knight of shrouds Knight of shrouds on ethereal steed 40 chainrasps 2x10 chainrasp 20 grimghast 20 bladeghasts 2x12 banshees Extra Cp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidsteel Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 So now that I've got a few games under my belt and have a feel for both the core rules of AoS as well as my army, I've realised I need to get better at placing my gravesites. I'm wondering if people have a standard set up that they go for and/or tailor based on the battleplan and opposition army at hand? Any mental checklists that you run through as per above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Almost finished painting this... Allegiance: Legion of Grief Mortal Realm: Hysh Dreadblade Harrow (90) - General - Command Trait: Vassal of the Craven King - Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern (140) Knight of Shrouds (100) Necromancer (130) 40 x Chainrasp Horde (280) 10 x Chainrasp Horde (80) 5 x Dire Wolves (70) 30 x Grimghast Reapers (420) 10 x Hexwraiths (280) 9 x Spirit Hosts (360) Extra Command Point (50) Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 157 Just need to paint the foot shroud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heijoshin Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 3:35 PM, Liquidsteel said: So now that I've got a few games under my belt and have a feel for both the core rules of AoS as well as my army, I've realised I need to get better at placing my gravesites. I'm wondering if people have a standard set up that they go for and/or tailor based on the battleplan and opposition army at hand? Any mental checklists that you run through as per above? I believe @AidenNicol has a post regarding this from earlier in the thread: (Page 23 I think): Quote I do. Point one, if your general isn't the Dreadblade Harrow, make it the general. Point 2. You want 3 of the objectives reasonably close together so that one unit can benefit from all three. This unit has been relegated as "extremely durable unit to soak threat targeting", for this role I reccomend 40 Chainrasps or 30 Grimghast Reapers, anything buffable with an ethereal save really. The other units in your army have been relegated to "bring back when dead". The fourth point goes behind the enemy army, 9 inches from the enemy table edge. This means that should they not commit forces to protecting this site, your general can instantly warp there and bring back a unit you threw into an aggressive fight earlier. Always be spending your units. Be as aggressive as you can. Your opponent isn't likely to be getting their stuff you kill back, but you will. @AidenNicol Is this how you are currently running your gravesites? Any new thoughts you have on placement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrankar Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Hey everyone! New player here, haven't played a single game of AOS yet, but I'm very slowly painting my spooks, between other models. I came here to ask if LoG is in a decent state rn - can they win things, are they worth investing into as a new player, what are some of the must haves (other than the Harrow) and where should I start with a 1k list? So far I have the Soul Wars Nighthaunt part, SC: Malignants, 10 Bladegheists, 5 Hexwraiths, Cairn Wraith and 3 Spirit Hosts (from this box that included them, forgot its name). Do you also have any ideas whether we could expect any bigger changes for Death in 2020? Edited April 21, 2020 by Sharrankar grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayul Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Buy more Chainrasp Hordes and one Necromancer. I don't have high hopes for Nighthaunt, Legion of Nagash or Legion of Grief in 2020. There might be room for new alligiance abilities for LoG in the the next General's Handbook, but this army could be dropped entirely just as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslide Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Anyone use skeletons in their legion? I have 40 with spears on my painting desk and looking at them as an alternate blob, cant buff them as much as the chainrasp but that also means I dont need to baby sit them either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benlisted Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Tried out LoG for the first time on TTS the other day having not played AOS in ages. I was playing vs my friend’s not too cutting edge Idoneth (i.e. not eel spam). I ran: Harrow general with brooch and vassal trait for cp regen KoS KoSoES GoS w/ dread withering Torment Necro w/ dread withering 40 rasps 20 harridans 20 bladegheists 12 myrmourns Gravetide and extra cp He was running a king, a caster, swordfish guy and fish guy, 9 eels with lances, turtle and the namarti batt (he outflanked the 2 melee squads with fish guy). He was the faction who has run and charge first turn then fight first t2. We played the rulebook mission 6 with 2 objs which I think was advantage me. All in all went very well, better than I expected. T1 he threw the eels into the myrmourns and rasps in the centre (should’ve deployed the banshees further back), killed 25 or so rasps and 10 myrmourns, so both would wipe from BS. I let the banshees wipe and autopassed the rasps (possibly the wrong choice but the rasps were blocking my heroes and the obj), then resummoned them next turn. His king failed the charge so that and his turtle were sitting mid board. Next turn i regenned about 10 rasps back with sites and the necro and threw vanhels on them, and withering on the eels - three were left after the first swing and none after the second. The bladegheists surrounded and just managed to kill off the king t1, while the harridans started on the turtle. t2 he brought his namarti on off behind me on one side, then charged them into the resummoned banshees and rasps. Honestly they pretty much bounced with minimal damage and were finished off in quite short order as the harridans whittled down the turtle. Little was left after t3! So yeah quite surprised given my lack of practice, but I think the scenario, his paying for high rend, and also pretty terrible dice conspired against him! I did note that the banshees and both kos didn’t live up to their potential what with having to spend my cp on autopass and resummon (and not rolling a 5 on 4 dice) but not sure how typical it is to need to spend both t1 (i know on average I should’ve had at least one more to spend, probably on the vanhels’d rasps). But i did like being able to play my ghosts as the attritiony horde they always should’ve been in my book! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayul Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Warscroll efficiency determined by an AI: (Source: https://twitter.com/jpganis/status/1259584385612947456) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorDragoon Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Interesting that it rates Glaivewraith Stalkers so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrometheus Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Bayul said: Warscroll efficiency determined by an AI: (Source: https://twitter.com/jpganis/status/1259584385612947456) Glaivewraiths literally do nothing, though. How is this calculated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayul Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 hours ago, LordPrometheus said: Glaivewraiths literally do nothing, though. How is this calculated? You'd need to ask https://twitter.com/jpganis for this. He created the AI. I am just dropping results here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellman Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Can LoG us Nighthount endles spells? a sorry if its a silly question I am new to the legion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACBelMutie Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) On 5/11/2020 at 4:15 PM, LordPrometheus said: Glaivewraiths literally do nothing, though. How is this calculated? That table was made by an AI... the same AI that says Arkanaut Company is the best unit in Kharadron Overlords when it's possibly the opposite. Greetings Edited May 16, 2020 by ACBelMutie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangeltoft Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hello to you all! might start up an LoGrief/NH army soon, but got the idea of including Nagash stuck in my head. is it possible to make a workable LoGrief list that includes Nagash? Doesnt need to be ultra competativ, but should not be a complete walkover list either. /Cheers Rangeltoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMMachine Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 9:05 AM, Fellman said: Can LoG us Nighthount endles spells? a sorry if its a silly question I am new to the legion Endless spells are not restricted by allegiance, they are only restricted you can summon them. If you want to play them you need either Nighthaunt Wizards or Nagash. 2 hours ago, Rangeltoft said: Hello to you all! might start up an LoGrief/NH army soon, but got the idea of including Nagash stuck in my head. is it possible to make a workable LoGrief list that includes Nagash? Doesnt need to be ultra competativ, but should not be a complete walkover list either. /Cheers Rangeltoft It's not forbidden in the rules of the Legion of Grief like in with Legions of Sacrament, Legions of Night or Legion of Blood and he could be General if he wants without including Lady Olynder in the List because he doesn't have the Mortarch Keyword, but you basicly spent 44% of your points in a 2000 Point army in a single model and it doesn't make much sense lorewise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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