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So, we just got a number of reveals but they are all missing something. 

Maybe GW is holding back stuff for Gencon and Nova? 

-Warclans and Free Cities need spells and faction terrain. 

-better pictures of the miniatures shown in the Beastgrave teaser

-part 2 of the Tithe video...

 

So maybe we get more stuff soon?

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Just one thing. Everyone now expects a new Ogor tome. I mean it is heavily hinted at, especially with "The Mawtribes". But right now GW hasn't confirmed any Ogor tome coming. It would be great if they put all Ogors in one faction.

But as someone said before, I fear that GW retcons Beastclaw Raiders and makes them generic Ogors again. This would be bad, because BCR have such a good lore.

I don't know which Ogors are finecast at the moment and which are not, but I believe that everything Finecast could be squatted from the Ogors.

The video does show several Ogor units. Are some of them in the video finecast? Or are they all plastic? I bought most of my "Gutbuster Ogors" in 6th Edition in Warhammer Fantasy, so I don't really know which models are finecast and plastic anymore. 

I guess the Bulls and Ironblasters will stay. But which models are finecast or metal at the moment and might be squatted later? Does anyone know?

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If Ogors lost finecast/metal from their range they'd lose most of their range. Almost every single model that isn't a large war engine or a team of 5 or so units (ergo troops) is metal/finecast. Ergo all the characterful ogors that make the faction popular. 

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6 minutes ago, Infeston said:

Just one thing. Everyone now expects a new Ogor tome. I mean it is heavily hinted at, especially with "The Mawtribes". But right now GW hasn't confirmed any Ogor tome coming. It would be great if they put all Ogors in one faction.

But as someone said before, I fear that GW retcons Beastclaw Raiders and makes them generic Ogors again. This would be bad, because BCR have such a good lore.

I don't know which Ogors are finecast at the moment and which are not, but I believe that everything Finecast could be squatted from the Ogors.

The video does show several Ogor units. Are some of them in the video finecast? Or are they all plastic? I bought most of my "Gutbuster Ogors" in 6th Edition in Warhammer Fantasy, so I don't really know which models are finecast and plastic anymore. 

I guess the Bulls and Ironblasters will stay. But which models are finecast or metal at the moment and might be squatted later? Does anyone know?

Everything in the video is plastic. Other armies like skaven kept their finecast stuff, most notably their heroes.

Unless GW plan on making plastic butchers or maneaters, perhaps both from the same kit, then I don't see why they wouldn't just keep the current finecast ogor models.

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15 minutes ago, Infeston said:

Just one thing. Everyone now expects a new Ogor tome. I mean it is heavily hinted at, especially with "The Mawtribes". But right now GW hasn't confirmed any Ogor tome coming. It would be great if they put all Ogors in one faction.

But as someone said before, I fear that GW retcons Beastclaw Raiders and makes them generic Ogors again. This would be bad, because BCR have such a good lore.

I don't know which Ogors are finecast at the moment and which are not, but I believe that everything Finecast could be squatted from the Ogors.

The video does show several Ogor units. Are some of them in the video finecast? Or are they all plastic? I bought most of my "Gutbuster Ogors" in 6th Edition in Warhammer Fantasy, so I don't really know which models are finecast and plastic anymore. 

I guess the Bulls and Ironblasters will stay. But which models are finecast or metal at the moment and might be squatted later? Does anyone know?

Ah ya beat me to it.

None of the Ogors in the video are finecast, everything is plastic. I really do think this is the Carrion Empire/Looncurse for Gutbusters/Maw Tribes and whatever the other faction is, so a tome is probably not too far off. If the second army in the box is the new death faction I would be very surprised and it would mean this box would be the best way to get into the faction, pretty sure it won't be though and instead it'll be like Legions of Nagash Deathrattle or something.

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3 minutes ago, Infeston said:

Just one thing. Everyone now expects a new Ogor tome. I mean it is heavily hinted at, especially with "The Mawtribes". But right now GW hasn't confirmed any Ogor tome coming. It would be great if they put all Ogors in one faction.

But as someone said before, I fear that GW retcons Beastclaw Raiders and makes them generic Ogors again. This would be bad, because BCR have such a good lore.

I don't know which Ogors are finecast at the moment and which are not, but I believe that everything Finecast could be squatted from the Ogors.

The video does show several Ogor units. Are some of them in the video finecast? Or are they all plastic? I bought most of my "Gutbuster Ogors" in 6th Edition in Warhammer Fantasy, so I don't really know which models are finecast and plastic anymore. 

I guess the Bulls and Ironblasters will stay. But which models are finecast or metal at the moment and might be squatted later? Does anyone know?

The only models shown in the video, other than the new Tyrant, are Ogors, (Bulls) Leadbelchers, and Ironblasters. All plastic kits, probably the contents of the vs box, and all certainly going to stay.

In terms of finecast, Ogors have a lot, but it's almost entirely hero options.

Tyrant, Butcher, Butcher with Cauldron, Maneaters, Firebelly, Hunter, Frost Sabers, Gorgor, Yhetti, are all finecast models.

I don't particularly expect any of the finecast models to go away except the ones replaced with plastic kits, so fingers crossed we get more than just the amazing Tyrant model.

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Best case scenario for Ogors is they get the Gloomspite treatment, combine them into one book but then expand each with new kits. Plastic Butcher, Hunter, Yhetees and Frost Sabre’s, then expand Firebellies and Maneaters with more units. 

Thats best case and probably unlikely, but one can dream. 

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15 minutes ago, madmac said:

I don't particularly expect any of the finecast models to go away except the ones replaced with plastic kits, so fingers crossed we get more than just the amazing Tyrant model.

Jeah. This is what I am hoping for. I guess if they release a new Tyrant they will propably also release Ogor endless spells. Maybe like Gloomspite Gitz, different themed spells depending on which Ogor tribe. Maybe a Maw spell for Gutbusters tribes and icy/frost-themed spells for Beastlaw Raiders.

And maybe, because the only wizards which Ogors have are Finecast, we will also get a new wizard. Maybe a new and cool Butcher. But this is just wishful thinking. But I think it would be great if we get a new Butcher model.

Edit: I guess they could also get the Khorne/Fireslayers treatment and get some kind of endless spells which aren't really endless spells.

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On the BCR side of things, just adding an underworld warband that was a Hunter+kitties would almost solve their finecast problems in one go, and be a cool Warband to boot! I think there's actually a rumor about something like that this season...

 

Right, that was it:

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I did hear some time back there were maybe 10 warbands this season (although I think 2 are from dreadfane as they were SE & NH), the others were (IIRC) DoK, Ogrurrrs (specifically 1 hunter and 1 or 2 animals), Wanderers, FeC (or might have been free peoples I can't remember), Seraphon, Slaanesh, Nurgle and another skaven. I myself would have liked Idoneth but this is a pretty nice mix of stuff, and at least no more Khorne or excessive SE.

It's +1/-1 so far, Wanderers looks correct, but Beastmen not mentioned, but still it's something.

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54 minutes ago, madmac said:

On the BCR side of things, just adding an underworld warband that was a Hunter+kitties would almost solve their finecast problems in one go, and be a cool Warband to boot! I think there's actually a rumor about something like that this season...

 

Right, that was it:

It's +1/-1 so far, Wanderers looks correct, but Beastmen not mentioned, but still it's something.

The beastmen could be a part of a themed chaos warband... there is one in the Tzeentch one after all. 

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Im currently constantly refreshing the Warhammer Community page. Do you think we might get new infos on the reveals today?

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13 minutes ago, Infeston said:

Im currently constantly refreshing the Warhammer Community page. Do you think we might get new infos on the reveals today?

I’m expecting stuff for preorder next week. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the Cities or Orruks as a quick drop

 

EDIT - didn’t realise all the warbands for Warcry weren’t out. Might be another warband! 😉😁

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Warcry is on a 2 week preorder. I don’t think they usually have anything on that in between week. 

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30 minutes ago, Infeston said:

Im currently constantly refreshing the Warhammer Community page. Do you think we might get new infos on the reveals today?

The preorder article goes up at 6pm, which is 20 minutes from now. 

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I can't imagine BCR and Gutbusters will remain separate given orruks are being combined into a single tome. I would have put money on those two being flavorful enough to get their own books, but the three sets of allegiance abilities is honestly a much cleaner way to update imo. 

 

I think we can almost guarantee that Ogres will be in the same book, with BCR retaining their monster mash playstyle and lore as a type of ogor tribe. Two birds with one stone, and both armies will benefit by having each others tools from a list perspective. 

 

Will see though. I was totally wrong about orruks, but I'd be SHOCKED if I had to ally in mournfang or beasts as caverly for my gutbusters army. Would do heaps for the army silhouette.

 

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5 hours ago, Overread said:

If Ogors lost finecast/metal from their range they'd lose most of their range. Almost every single model that isn't a large war engine or a team of 5 or so units (ergo troops) is metal/finecast. Ergo all the characterful ogors that make the faction popular. 

Um the only resin for gutbusters left now is butcher.  I don't think many people play gorgers, and I think they'll be squatted instead of replaced. Beastclaw has the hunter and cats. Most of the Ogor range is plastic. 

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The current previews seem to follow the same pattern as the last one:

-We have actual tomes spoiled. This time Warclans and Cities of Sigmar. Last time Fyreslayers.

-We have an hint on a two faction box. Last time Sylvaneth. This time it seems we get Gutbusters, at least the focus on one new hero and plastic models seem like a hint.

Therefore we can maybe assume that the Gutbusters may come last, the same as Sylvaneth did with Gloomspite. Interesting here is that while GW gave us last time a clear hint on both Factions to be teased, this time one is clearly in Focus. The other remains a suprise. We only know the narrative of the Bonepact that is broken. It could be possibly a Box paired with one of the new two Battletomes armies. Again, the Wanderer vs Gutbuster Box Rumour seems pretty interesting here

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That's, uh... not a lot* going up for pre-order next week. 

*Not a lot = three Made-To-Order Chaos Space Marine Sorcerers.

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I for one am (almost) sure the Tithe of Bones and the Pact-then-Feast of Bones won't have anything in common (apart the use of the term "bone", that is :P).

- The first one is the next chapter in the Soul Wars narrative, probably a new Death army themed around Skeletons and Bones Constructs (so a reaimagination of a few Deathrattle and Tomb Kings tropes, hence the ziggurat and eastern music from the trailer, and the earlier "TK" rumors from Thomas Lyon). It will be teased by a few videos in the same style as Malign Portents (IMO it's the same graphic artist), Part I : Necropolis being the first one. It will be lead by a huge Skeleton, the Death Entity from Lake Lethis (the one from the Forbidden Power artwork posted here many times, not a character from WFB). It will match a few Rumor Engines we got recently. 

- The second one will be a boxed set with two armies like Looncurse, Carrion Empire, etc. with the Ogor Tyrant. It will herald the release of the Destruction Battletome : Ogor Mawtribes (soup between Gutbusters and Beastclaw Raiders). It's very probable we should get another "new" army in this set, or at least a new character / kit for an existing AOS 2nd Ed. army.

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I got so excited when I saw the Tyrant and the Bonesplitterz book on the same page- for a split second I thought my pipedream of combined Splitterz, Gutbusters, Maneaters, Firebellies, and Aleguzzlers into "The Hordes of Hunger" had somehow happened. 

I just want a giant cauldron of broth that changes allegiance abilities around based on what you put in it. And maybe an Aleguzzler Brewmaster that throws huge casks of booze at his enemies.

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40 minutes ago, sorokyl said:

Um the only resin for gutbusters left now is butcher.  I don't think many people play gorgers, and I think they'll be squatted instead of replaced. Beastclaw has the hunter and cats. Most of the Ogor range is plastic. 

Current resins:

Gorger
Maneater - of which there's quite a few
Firebelly
Butcher - of which there's a couple.

 

So its a lot of the very iconic and characterful models in the range. You've got the "bearded lady" the ogor pulling a cauldron etc... That's a lot of the factions unique character in those resin models. Now GW could put out a maneater plastic kit with lots of optional parts like the Troll unit for Gloomspite which would start solving things. Or add new unit types to the army etc...., but regardless I'm guessing that as they've sneaked the Tyrant and a feast of bones its going to be like Skaven - a duel army pack with 1 new sculpt to tide them over. I don't think it will be Gloomspite levels of new models. Not that Ogors don't need nor deserve them, just that GW hasn't got a production gap. 

 

Whilst they are producing a lot more week to week the number of big army releases they do is still about the same as it ever was (maybe a little more). 

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38 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:

That's, uh... not a lot* going up for pre-order next week. 

*Not a lot = three Made-To-Order Chaos Space Marine Sorcerers.

Warcry has a 2 week preorder. They don’t usually have anything in the week between when they do 2 week preorders. 

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Yeah probably not any other models than the Tyrant. That's fine by me. It was a book I wanted the most anyway! 

I do wonder what kind of spells or terrain we'll get. Big Maw endless spell is a freebie, I'm looking forward to being surprised by what else is in store. 

If the 'Tithe of Bones' is in any way related to the 'Feast/Pact of Bones' then GW mentioned "Just what is this “tithe of bones”? Watch this space for more news in the coming weeks…"

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Why does everyone seem to think there is a two faction box set on the way? Did I miss something or is it just speculation?

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