Kronos Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gotz said: so full relaunch later. Halloween anyone? Was just about to post this 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthaunt Noob Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gotz said: so full relaunch later. Halloween anyone? You may be right. The paperback on Amazon is now showing a release day in October. It had previously shown May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, Nos said: Man the new dice sets are really rubbish these days huh Most of the older ones in 2.0 were really creative and felt like novel products as of themselves These are just like Blue dice Orange dice Ehhhhh... One of the major complaints of the fancy dice was that they were pretty much unusable, either because they rolled very poorly (Squig, Death Guard, etc) or were unreadable at a glance (old IDK dice, Sylvaneth, etc). These newer dice are definitely less interesting visually, but they're certainly clearer. £24 RRP is a lot to ask for such 'plain' designs though. I always found the WarmaHordes dice a nice in-between. Unique visually, but still pretty clear. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nos Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Ehhhhh... One of the major complaints of the fancy dice was that they were pretty much unusable, either because they rolled very poorly (Squig, Death Guard, etc) or were unreadable at a glance (old IDK dice, Sylvaneth, etc). These newer dice are definitely less interesting visually, but they're certainly clearer. £24 RRP is a lot to ask for such 'plain' designs though. I always found the WarmaHordes dice a nice in-between. Unique visually, but still pretty clear. Those are nice. I tend to write lists around throwing as few dice as possible. I played with a friends Gitz army a few times and had blobs of 60 shooters etc. I just didn't ever roll for them in combat. They were there to get punched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Awesome news that Cursed City is returning for real later in the year and I cannot wait to see these expansions!! Shame that it would seem we have seen everything for Fyreslayers and Idoneth though. Sorry mates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Am I missing something, or couldn't you already get them outside of Start Collecting (except for at the same price as Start Collecting so why would you?) https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Auric-Runefather-on-Magmadroth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, EntMan said: Am I missing something, or couldn't you already get them outside of Start Collecting (except for at the same price as Start Collecting so why would you?) https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Auric-Runefather-on-Magmadroth If you buy it 'separately' they just send you the Start Collecting(!) box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, EntMan said: Am I missing something, or couldn't you already get them outside of Start Collecting (except for at the same price as Start Collecting so why would you?) https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Auric-Runefather-on-Magmadroth You are correct. IIRC, if you tried to actually buy them from the webstore they'd just send you the SC box anyway. If they're being officially reboxed, there's a chance of saving money I guess, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, madmac said: You are correct. IIRC, if you tried to actually buy them from the webstore they'd just send you the SC box anyway. If they're being officially reboxed, there's a chance of saving money I guess, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Magmadroths were £50 before the Start Collecting released at the same price. My guess is they'll stay at £60 or be a little higher. I think them being released separately definitely suggests we'll be getting a Vanguard box, since there's no reason to release it standalone otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, madmac said: You are correct. IIRC, if you tried to actually buy them from the webstore they'd just send you the SC box anyway. If they're being officially reboxed, there's a chance of saving money I guess, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Well either the price of on it's own will reduce, or the price of Start Collecting will go up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimrock Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, EntMan said: Well either the price of on it's own will reduce, or the price of Start Collecting will go up... I think they're just going to drop the start collecting box like they have with the other 3rd edition releases. The separate Magmadroth will probably cost the same as the start collecting does now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmc78 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Grimrock said: I think they're just going to drop the start collecting box like they have with the other 3rd edition releases. The separate Magmadroth will probably cost the same as the start collecting does now. Wonder if they will just do a Vanguard box with the whole set of kits in … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, Grimrock said: I think they're just going to drop the start collecting box like they have with the other 3rd edition releases. The separate Magmadroth will probably cost the same as the start collecting does now. They really want to sell them Fyreslayers! On another topic, I have the original Idoneth dice and they are literally unusable. They look like glaciar mints and you can barely tell what one result is, let alone rolling in a game. I don't see any reason to buy the dice other than wanting to collect them, but these look like you can use them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptowaffle Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, EntMan said: Well either the price of on it's own will reduce, or the price of Start Collecting will go up... i'm struggling to recall a single instance of gw reducing a price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthaunt Noob Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, cryptowaffle said: i'm struggling to recall a single instance of gw reducing a price... New Blood Knights 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said: Magmadroths were £50 before the Start Collecting released at the same price. My guess is they'll stay at £60 or be a little higher. I think them being released separately definitely suggests we'll be getting a Vanguard box, since there's no reason to release it standalone otherwise. I wonder if they are dropping them from the vanguard box. It would make sense to sell separately if this is the case. I hope it's not, as it would mean a really boring vanguard box of vulkites, heartguard e maybe 2 heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Grimrock said: I think they're just going to drop the start collecting box like they have with the other 3rd edition releases. If that's the pattern then I guess I have until the summer to get myself the Start Collecting Sylvaneth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmarusvult Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 From Dakka: Quote New pricing in effectBattletomes IDK & FS £32.50 €42.50Dice £24 €31.50Cards £19 €24.50 The price increase has already been included. It hurts, especially for books which are probably going to need a faq day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I would love a good unexpected AoS model reveal today. Nighthaunt would be awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonChao Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Out of curiousity regarding the shift from Start Collecting to Vanguard boxes, did the Maggotkin Battletome include an image of the the Nurgle Vanguard box in the same way the 9th ed Codex include a picture of the combat patrol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Another small rules rumour. Bob on war of sigmar (who has books early and posts opinions / reviews as soon as they go on pre-order) is stating the Idoneth book is strong and should be good in the current meta. This chimes with everything I've heard so far from my own sources. So while it might be sad we aren't seeing much in terms of new models, not even getting endless spells etc, it sounds like the new book will be very welcomed by the Idoneth community. Although it's a relief to know we won't be stuck with a terrible book for 3.0, I'm personally hoping we can see some more build variety especially in the casual scene. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, HollowHills said: Another small rules rumour. Bob on war of sigmar (who has books early and posts opinions / reviews as soon as they go on pre-order) is stating the Idoneth book is strong and should be good in the current meta. This chimes with everything I've heard so far from my own sources. So while it might be sad we aren't seeing much in terms of new models, not even getting endless spells etc, it sounds like the new book will be very welcomed by the Idoneth community. Although it's a relief to know we won't be stuck with a terrible book for 3.0, I'm personally hoping we can see some more build variety especially in the casual scene. In general I think the Idoneth 1st ed. book aged fairly well. While initially eel spam was the one dominant strategy, over time with FAQs and the update from Broken Realms, other lists became possible as well. All the while the power level seems to have been high enough that Idoneth could compete in tournaments. If GW is smart they will not change too much about the Idoneth tome. Cleaning up the 1st ed. jank and updating everything to 3rd ed. standards will hopefully be the priority. Idoneth have a small range but, at this point, very few of their kits are competitive duds, apart from some of the small heroes. Fyreslayers will be much more of an uphill battle. The only good list they ever had, to my knowledge, was Hearthguard spam when you could still stack wards to make them unkillable. That was a frustrating list to play against and likely not where GW sees the future of the faction. We have not seen much of the new book, but I welcome the decision to makes Runesons on Magmadroth a conditional battleline choice. I think with a faction as small as Fyreslayers, in the absence of new kits, their units need as much flexibility as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japaricio Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, HollowHills said: Another small rules rumour. Bob on war of sigmar (who has books early and posts opinions / reviews as soon as they go on pre-order) is stating the Idoneth book is strong and should be good in the current meta. This chimes with everything I've heard so far from my own sources. So while it might be sad we aren't seeing much in terms of new models, not even getting endless spells etc, it sounds like the new book will be very welcomed by the Idoneth community. Although it's a relief to know we won't be stuck with a terrible book for 3.0, I'm personally hoping we can see some more build variety especially in the casual scene. In the same blogpost from bob I have read that he says the Chaos summer battletome will be Khorne. First time reading his blog, so it was the first time he said that or there are more placed where I can find further information? Becase I was also leaning more to Skaven vs Sylvaneth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said: Magmadroths were £50 before the Start Collecting released at the same price. My guess is they'll stay at £60 or be a little higher. I think them being released separately definitely suggests we'll be getting a Vanguard box, since there's no reason to release it standalone otherwise. Magmadroths were £65 when they came out, and then artificially reduced to £50 with the Start Collecting on account of that being the only way to buy them. Maybe £60, but definitely more than the cost of the Start Collecting. Edited February 28, 2022 by Still-young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, EonChao said: Out of curiousity regarding the shift from Start Collecting to Vanguard boxes, did the Maggotkin Battletome include an image of the the Nurgle Vanguard box in the same way the 9th ed Codex include a picture of the combat patrol? It did not, no mention or pictures of it in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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