Icarion Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Nos said: You haven’t discussed it. You've said you 100% know that it is Idoneth, which you don’t. Then people have taken these assertions as a platform to ask why it is that a thing that is complete speculation - Idoneth ES- means there would also be another entirely speculative thing which you have yourself asserted might well be the case-a Battletome- to accompany the thing you have completely speculated will be released with 100% certainty. Please note I’ve at no point told anyone what they can or can’t say. I will continue to demonstrate how utterly speculative it is though when people do state with utter conviction something founded entirely on speculation , to try and provide some balance in reality for people trying to determine between rumours and stuff people are either saying they know with certainty they know will happen without evidence for it, or just hope might happen on the basis of utter speculation. Unless of course I’m not entitled to my opinion for some reason Wow Okay. This isn't baseless speculation. We know that Idoneth will get Endless spells. We don't know when, but considering the breakneck speed of new battltomes this year, and new versions of AOS 1.0 battletombes, it seems likely in the next year and a half. And we know that that the rumor engine picture included details that match up 100% with current and unique idoneth sculpts, (the vase and chest). These aren't generic details, they match current Idoneth bits perfectly. It is entirely possible that the rumor engine pic belongs to a non-idoneth model, (like another races treasure hoard, which includes stolen idoneth stuff) , but linking it to any other faction is pure speculation, which is also fine. Gold coins are generic, but the chest and vases are uniquely Idoneth, and so they are the only known faction linked to that rumor engine preview by more than speculation. But considering that we know Aos 1.0 battletomes are getting updates and endless spells, and considering that we have now seen rumor images showing as yet unreleased miniatures bearing distinctive idoneth design, it seems convincing that the two are related. You can say the faction doesn't need anything new, and decry it as mere speculation, but then everything in this thread is speculation, and this at least is well grounded speculation, based on observation of current trends, and miniature previews. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 hours ago, DantePQ said: I think tGW can just release Endless Spells for Deepkins, LoN, Nurgle and DoK alongside another endless spells expansion (and it was confirmed by GW that we're getting new universal ednless spells in 2019) without any new models, books etc That seems the most likely to me. Or they can release it in the General’s Handbook(same for any terrain rules & allegiance changes). My thought is the GHB since it contains the point values. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nos Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Athrawes said: Wow Okay. This isn't baseless speculation. We know that Idoneth will get Endless spells. Do we? Why? How? When did GW announce that? Because they’re the only people who will be making them and they haven’t announced they intend to yet have they? You *dont know.* You don’t. You’re guessing. Informed guesses, absolutely. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there were Idoneth spells at some point. But you don’t know if every race is getting Endless a Spells, you don’t know if every Battletome is getting a redux. You think they are, you’ve given your reasons, there’s certain patterns etc. That’s not the same as knowing something. You are not an authority. You’re a pleb guessing like the rest of us. If you say you know something and you don’t prople will listen to you, because they wouldn’t assume you would repeatedly say you knew something if you didn’t. How many rumour engines have featured an explicit reference to the race in question and turned out to be for that race rather than a red herring? Lots of people guess on here about stuff. It’s kind of the point. You’ll notice that at no point have I taken issue with anyone else for guessing literally anything regardless of how crazy it is. But people *repeatedly* saying they know things when they don’t and doubling down on it when I point out that they’re making informed guesses and they say no, you’re wrong, I know better than you, it’s definitely this, it’s 100% this, and they pop in and out of the thread to enforce this schtick, well I don’t see the harm in noting that their certainty is actually just total speculation like the rest of everything on here. Because it completely is. Edited March 10, 2019 by Nos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarion Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nos said: Do we? Why? How? When did GW announce that? Because they’re the only people who will be making them and they haven’t announced they intend to yet have they? You *dont know.* You don’t. You’re guessing. Informed guesses, absolutely. But you don’t know if every race is getting Endless a Spells, you don’t know if every Battletome is getting a redux. You think they are, you’ve given your reasons, there’s certain patterns etc. That’s not the same as knowing something. How many rumour engines have featured an explicit reference to the race in question and turned out to be for that race rather than a red herring? Lots of people guess on here about stuff. It’s kind of the point. You’ll notice that at no point have I taken issue with anyone else for guessing literally anything regardless of how crazy it is. But people *repeatedly* saying they know things when they don’t and doubling down on it when I point out that they’re making informed guesses and they say no, it’s definitely this, it’s 100% this, well I’m going to push back on that. But you're not pointing out and saying they are just informed guesses. You litteraly called them baseless speculation. And yes we do know that Idoneth will get endless spells. Every AOS 2.0 army has gotten endless spells, including Khorne now, the army that doesn't even use spells. But saying it's baseless speculation that Idoneth will get endless spells, is willful ignorance at best. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nos Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Athrawes said: But you're not pointing out and saying they are just informed guesses. You litteraly called them baseless speculation. And yes we do know that Idoneth will get endless spells. Every AOS 2.0 army has gotten endless spells, including Khorne now, the army that doesn't even use spells. But saying it's baseless speculation that Idoneth will get endless spells, is willful ignorance at best. I never said Idoneth Endless Spells were Baseless speculation actually. Someone inferred that from the observation I made that I was referring to the ES and I actually wasn’t but eh. Again we don’t know. You’re guessing. You’re predicting. That’s not knowledge. You’re assuming every army is getting a 2.0 tome, whereas as many have pointed out Maggotkin on “feels” very 2.0. The only way we will know whether everyone is getting a Battletome and ES post Soul Wars is when GW say that. The only people who actually know the future of AOS and who are in a position to dictate whether they get them or not. Until then everyone’s guessing one way or the other no matter how hard you try to circumvent what “know” means. Im done at this point. I’ve made it very clear where I stand and why, nothing to be gained from me repeating it. If people feel the need to pretend they know stuff when they don’t I won’t say anything anymore, and just watch the confusion and nonsense that follows I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Are you guys kidding ???? You are on each others throat over Idoneth endless spells ? 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Kurrilino said: Are you guys kidding ???? You are on each others throat over Idoneth endless spells ? IT means WAR!! It's the only solution to this question! However war is expensive so the pair of them will just have to agree to a duel at dawn with pistols 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlvalentine Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Kurrilino said: Are you guys kidding ???? You are on each others throat over Idoneth endless spells ? You really can't talk dude, you only ever post in this thread to complain about it 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Part of what is fun about this thread is seeing people get excited about stuff they enjoy. So forgive me if I find it enjoyable to guess about idoneth stuff when we get a hint from GW. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, HollowHills said: Part of what is fun about this thread is seeing people get excited about stuff they enjoy. So forgive me if I find it enjoyable to guess about idoneth stuff when we get a hint from GW. Guessing is fine. You were being a lot more absolute than guessing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Still-young said: Guessing is fine. You were being a lot more absolute than guessing. I said it's 100% deepkin. Which I fully believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Seriously though people are allowed to guess and believe what they want - if they want to think its Idoneth they are 100% allowed to. Doesn't mean everyone has to accept it, you can DEBATE and discuss differences of opinion. But lets not get to the point where we are attacking each other about it. That's just getting into all kinds of silly. It's not as if the results of any of these debates will actually change anything in the real world. Saying its likely to be something is not going to make it fact - the halfdozen to dozen active people posting in this thread is not going to make GW magically change releases to fit with our guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/10/coming-soon-new-khorne-models/ Look like Khorne BT is coming in two weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) And also a New Bloodmaster model and Skull altar Edited March 10, 2019 by novakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I can see so many people wanting Flesh Eater thrones to put on their Khorne Alters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Taloren Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Looks like the altar is going to replace Gore Pilgrams with its abilities. So guessing one battalion that is going away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankelton Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Khorne stuff looks good. Should keep them tided over for quite some time considering the goodies they've already received. Terrain piece is ok, kinda eh. For me anyways. Happy for the boys in red. Hope the Battletome fixes some of the problems, cause I really don't want to see another one for a while xD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 The only downside ot this news is it means the Wrath and Rapture set is going away and I still didn't get any! All because of those darned rats!! Sneaky devils sneaking a huge battletome and wave of new releases in like they did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffelo Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 GW is really pumping out these releases. I hope this means DoT is on the Horizon as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethefish Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 So happy that Khorne got revealed today. This means that they hopefully won't take any extra time talking about it during the big GAMA reveal tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Interesting that wizards won't be able to dispel the blessings. I sure hope there IS a way to stop them, otherwise we just reversed the entire problem with wizardless armies. On that thought, I hope they don't jump the shark on this whole anti-magic thing. Nobody who uses wizards is ever going to want to play against someone with Khorne if it means their units are completely useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Overread said: The only downside ot this news is it means the Wrath and Rapture set is going away and I still didn't get any! All because of those darned rats!! Sneaky devils sneaking a huge battletome and wave of new releases in like they did! So just the usual Hobby ADD and wallet suffering problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudonyme Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 5 hours ago, pseudonyme said: This potential Dwarf book could be The dispossessed one but with specific Battalions to fill KO and Fyrslayers. on a side bite, I wonder if they will make Chaos gods terrain compatible for 40k as the nurgle trees I guess the latest news answers my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, novakai said: So just the usual Hobby ADD and wallet suffering problems? That'll be me if Darkoath and Slaanesh release close together. I'm already dreading having to buy a bunch of new kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 In the art on Whc of idoneth vs khorne there is an akhelian warrior standing on foot without an eel mount nearby. Possible new idoneth unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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