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41 minutes ago, Sleboda said:

Serious question:

How many people complaining here have been in the hobby for under 5 years?

I see most of complains as reaction of spoiled children, but maybe it's just me 😅
From the time before, you had nothing for year and now that you have so many news cool stuff going out, it's hard to keep up.

Anyway some pretty cool new things, the sylvaneth are really pretty, I'll be happy to have a squad of revenant with bow now! (and a new bt pretty please)
I wont comments 40k release, but really ,leather tunic and gloves?!

I'm wondering if forbiden power will be similar to conquest, as in just a campaign box?

If they continu this pace, 2019 will be glorious!

Anamnesis

 

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People who think khorne don't need a new tome are wrong. 

1} there is a lot of errata not in the book including their entire summoning mechanic. 

2) a lot of waracrolls have changed in wrath and rapture. 

3) the entire army is balanced on the assumption you have a bloodsecrator giving +1 attack. 

It's also easy to make a new battletome for an army with loads of existing art and lore. 

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1 minute ago, BobbyB said:

Hey no posts from ndabreaker for a while huh?

They were a fake apparently, so pretty much everything ndabreaker said was probably wishlisting.

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1 minute ago, Chikout said:

Warcry will be set in the allpoints but will almost certainly feature every grand alliance

Plus it could be set in the All-Points in the way the original Skirmish book was 'set in Shadespire', that is they use the setting for a campaign or some fluff in the rulebook but after that you can then do what you want with the rules and set your games anywhere.

Maybe it's a boardgame, maybe it's a hybrid skirmish/card game, maybe it's a Chaos karaoke game, who knows seeing as we have absolutely nothing to go on yet apart from who was involved in designing it and the name.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, HollowHills said:

It's also easy to make a new battletome for an army with loads of existing art and lore. 

Plus Khorne made half the original starter set didn't it. So pretty good chance most new players that got into the game in the first year or so of it being launched have a fair few Khorne models lying around somewhere, along with the release of W&R that should make it an easy (easier at least) sell I'd have thought.

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Ive been playing for over 5 years. The preview was lackluster. They marketed it as game changing for whatever you play, and the best preview ever. The only people who are going to be excited about it are Khorne fans and Underworlds fans. Forbidden Power/Warcry might end up being a big deal, but their announcement was a super teaser which we have nothing to go off other than the name. Personally I would have held back the FEC/Skaven stuff and announced them as going on pre-order in 2 days - that would have been mind blowing and exciting. I don't have a problem with the products they are turning out, but the way they did this preview was way underwhelming compared to what I expected and what they have done in the past.

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Was hoping to see a bit more models but I like the news what so ever.

- Updated battletomes for the 1st ed. Is a great news(though we kinda suspected it due to the FEC tome). 

- warscry: hopefully this is the Skirmish game that we have wished for. It at least explains why the Skirmish 2.0 didn’t adress half of the stuff that was lacking from the first skirmish. If this release is to be similar(ish) to kill team, then I guess we might see a lot of scenery and board tiles too. Really hoping so.

- Love that Soulwars isn’t done yet. To cool a storyline to end it already. I also believe that this is the reason Slaanesh remains locked up. The great pink escape is one major plotline meant for its own and not to steal Nagash’s 15minuttes of fame. 

- Stormvaults.. so eh.. don’t know what this is but I think Gw has used up all of their ‘Storm’ words for SCE and Also the words: ‘Blood’ and ‘skull’ when it comes to khorne stuff😉 BLOODreavers BLOODletters, BLOODwarriors, BLOODcrushers, BLOODsecreator, BLOODthirster etc.. 

- All in all it looks like 2019 is the year that actually allows for some elbowspace as I was hoping for, yet still we will see lots of new stuff, but the badics remain the same. Looking forward to that.

 

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@Chikout With Archaon (probably) speaking in the video, the title being "answer the Call of Chaos" like the Black Library stories, and the setting being the Chaos-held Eightpoint and the Varanspire, the game looks strongly Chaos focused... BUT we could see other Grand Alliances as, for once, antagonists of the game. 

If Warcry is to be the AOS Killteam, competitive like Underworlds, with high quality and typical models like Mordheim was once, it really should include all races and factions. But as of now it "only" looks Chaos centric. (As a Chaos player I don't mind, but as someone waiting for a good AOS Mordheim, I'd be sad if we only have Chaos guys in the game :P )

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I am really pleased with everything they showed at LVO (even the 40k Minis)

 

Edit: My Wallet and the huge pile of shame isn't however xD

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38 minutes ago, Anamnesis said:

I'm wondering if forbiden power will be similar to conquest, as in just a campaign box?

I think the keyword with 'Forbidden Power' is that it's described as an 'Age of Sigmar Expansion' in the same way 'Malign Sorcery' was.

So my guess is boxset with chunky models for everyone and new rules of some kind. I had originally thought it would just be more faction agnostic Endless Spells but oddly less sure of that now, it's still the most likely option but could be something similar.

One possibility is it could be a box of weird and wonderful non-faction-specific 'magic' terrain, that would hit the check boxes of making the game more visual, gets more terrain out there onto tables and since all the faction specific terrain is points free it allows armies without those releases yet to take something and not be left out.

You know, 'with magic unleashed across the realms thanks to Nagash's Necroquake the very land itself has become saturated with arcane energy, yadda yadda yadda'

Not sure how they'd get an extra rulebook out of that but guess it could just be an update of the MS one with the realm rules, spells, artefacts etc in again with some additional new nonsense for people to get up in arms about.

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7 minutes ago, JPjr said:

I think the keyword with 'Forbidden Power' is that it's described as an 'Age of Sigmar Expansion' in the same way 'Malign Sorcery' was.

So my guess is boxset with chunky models for everyone and new rules of some kind. I had originally thought it would just be more faction agnostic Endless Spells but oddly less sure of that now, it's still the most likely option but could be something similar.

One possibility is it could be a box of weird and wonderful non-faction-specific 'magic' terrain, that would hit the check boxes of making the game more visual, gets more terrain out there onto tables and since all the faction specific terrain is points free it allows armies without those releases yet to take something and not be left out.

You know, 'with magic unleashed across the realms thanks to Nagash's Necroquake the very land itself has become saturated with arcane energy, yadda yadda yadda'

Not sure how they'd get an extra rulebook out of that but guess it could just be an update of the MS one with the realm rules, spells, artefacts etc in again with some additional new nonsense for people to get up in arms about.

maybe we get Realm-specific scenery? (perhaps even a small set for each realm) which then get their own rules?

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33 minutes ago, WoollyMammoth said:

They marketed it as game changing for whatever you play, and the best preview ever.

Really? I don't recall either of those statements. I could very well have a poor memory, but I really don't think they said either of those things.

Could your expectations simply have been out of line with what was said?

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2 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:

maybe we get Realm-specific scenery? (perhaps even a small set for each realm) which then get their own rules?

I did think that, though that's also a bit limiting as to what you can use if it's strictly just for specific realms. Though if (and of course this is a huge ****** if as I'm just riffing on a random thought I had) they were it could be that they are loosely realm themed in the way a lot of the endless spells have obvious ties to specific realms but work anywhere (maybe just more effective in their home realm).

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Just a personal idea but could the forbidden power have something to do with the lightning gheists mentioned on new SCE lore? Maybe it's something Sigmar has hidden in a stormvault

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2 minutes ago, Sleboda said:

Really? I don't recall either of those statements. I could very well have a poor memory, but I really don't think they said either of those things.

Also I'm not sure how long you'd survive working in a marketing dept if you started announcing "tune in at 2am for some huge reveals, well when we say huge we mean some big reveals, ok let's just go for reveals. I mean look this is all nonsense and the world is going to hell in a handcart around us, none of this really matters in the grand scheme of things, get an early night you'll feel better for it in the morning, the models will still be there in a few months."

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I worked, successfully, in marketing. It's part of why I'm scratching my head over all the dismay (especially that which is based on words GW never used in the hype).

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12 minutes ago, RipperChameleon said:

Just a personal idea but could the forbidden power have something to do with the lightning gheists mentioned on new SCE lore? Maybe it's something Sigmar has hidden in a stormvault

The Kharadron short story in the January WD hints about a hidden artefact deep under Hammerhal, meant for the God-King. Not a coincidence, I think. :)

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"One of the great things about Warhammer Age of Sigmar is the rich, evolving narrative. The background for the Mortal Realms is growing all the time, with the past few years having taken us through the epic battles of the Realmgate Wars, through the fledgling conquests of the Seeds of Hope, to last year’s Soul Wars. This tectonic shift in the status quo sawNagash rise to supremacy, the emergence of the Nighthaunt, and Sigmar forced to open the Sacrosanct Chamber. Now, in 2019, the Soul Wars continue – and something ancient and terrible is awakened…"

 

Frostmourne Some kind of god beast? Settra? Louens ledger after the big pox-party at Altdorf? xD

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Personally, I'm quite surprised as well at the overall negativity. These are mostly teasers, sure... But actually shows me that they have taken some things seriously: 

- more spread out love for each GA (compare now with 2 years ago)

- extra stuff that benefits all is still being added. 

- Older battletomes are getting a refresh so you don't get left out for too long. 

There's still a lot of stuff that needs work, but it's being done at a pretty high speed. Maybe so much so, that it's creating a lot of entitlement even. 

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I cant believe ppl complaining. This is paradise if you compare with The old Warhammer fantasy days.

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8 minutes ago, Elmir said:

Personally, I'm quite surprised as well at the overall negativity.

To be fair, just the same couple guys that cry every time.

Especially one of them is notorious for opening "whine-threads" that get closed within a rather short amount of time.

It should go without saying but one should always manage their expectations...

I for one was rather surprised, more announcements and a lot different ones from what I anticipated. Kinda interested how all of this plays out on the tabletop and schedule-wise.

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I was excited for the "New Factions" part of the announcement, we assumed that Darkoath would be this year but thats plural so hopefully seeing something entirely new coming on the way aswell as updating the older armies.

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13 minutes ago, peasant said:

I cant believe ppl complaining. This is paradise if you compare with The old Warhammer fantasy days.

very this.

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If they held FEC and Skaven announcements for LVO people would cheer. 

The message that they are rewriting a lot of battletomes alone should be enough to make us happy. 

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