The Rumour Thread

[Jagged Red Lines]

3 minutes ago, Gothmaug said:

Could GW be going backwards compatible, and allowing you to re-base your AOS armies (hope you saved all your old squares)

Cities units still come with squares

[Greyshadow]

I am delighted to see that beautiful art but I am all in on Age of Sigmar. I can’t see myself playing or collecting any Old World again. I am very happy for all those who are excited for its return. 🙂

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

9 minutes ago, Greyshadow said:

I am delighted to see that beautiful art but I am all in on Age of Sigmar. I can’t see myself playing or collecting any Old World again. I am very happy for all those who are excited for its return. 🙂

I am into it more for the proxy potential than anything else. I don't have that much nostalgia for the old world and don't think I would enjoy going back to the Fantasy rule set. But I also don't play Underworlds or Warcry, and I still have models for those games.

[novakai]

2 hours ago, Still-young said:

It’s being done by Forge World, but that doesn’t mean as much as it once did - the specialist games team are part of forge world and they do quite a bit of plastic. There will almost certainly be some resin though 

true but they have never done anything big or require more then 20 models on the board at once

[KingBrodd]

7 hours ago, KarrWolves said:

A reviewer has let slipped that the next 2 unconfirmed battletomes will be available very soon, so I'm wondering if that means Slaves to Darkness will be released before December.

That would explain the leaks, if they have already received the battletome.

The next 2 could be this year!?

5 hours ago, Bosskelot said:

Gitz really are massively overdue for a new book and it's also not like they're hurting from old models or a small range. It's weird that they haven't already been released with their mandatory new plastic hero on foot already.

Im hoping we havent seen them yet because of production and shipping because they are recieving a 2nd Wave.

[Chikout]

8 hours ago, KarrWolves said:

A reviewer has let slipped that the next 2 unconfirmed battletomes will be available very soon, so I'm wondering if that means Slaves to Darkness will be released before December.

That would explain the leaks, if they have already received the battletome.

When they say unconfirmed do they mean after Slaves to Darkness, or just Ogors and Slaves which don't have dates yet? 

[Ganigumo]

5 hours ago, Gothmaug said:

 I really hope theyre not recycling old molds, and dusting off old stock they have had stacked in warehouses for decades. 

 

I'd like to see all new sculpts, but that's a huge investment in time and materials, to even have a half dozen forces at launch.  

 

Do we know the scale? 25, 28, 32mm? 15 mm epic? (oh god please no) Could GW be going backwards compatible, and allowing you to re-base your AOS armies (hope you saved all your old squares). Soulblight, Cities of Sigmar, Beasts of Chaos, Slaves to Darkness, Skaven, and Seraphon would be easy for direct conversions, since they have so many older models in thier lines. Cities of Sigmar could be broken back intho human, elf and dwarven forces. Its not my favotite solution, but would allow some players to instantly play the Old World, with minimal investment from GW, giving GW time to manufacture and release some new forces. 

Probably be a mix of the two. Utilizing a few old armies, and then making 2-3 new available at launch. Kiselv, Brettonians, and Greenskinz are my guess, they seem like like low hanging fruit that would sell well. 

Also im betting Beasts of chaos doesnt get a range refresh for AOS until the Old World launches, thereby allowing GW to double dip into 2 markets..... Oh wait, that would actually be a rational plan that makes sense. Scratch that, BoC is getting squatted and relaunched 2 years later in TOE.

 

I hope they do recycle some of the old ones, the kits from 8th edition still hold up like necropolis knights, necrosphinxes and the boar boyz. I really liked the 8th edition boar boy kit, and wish it had wormed its way into ironjawz somehow instead of getting squatted.


IMO the best thing they could do is re-use still in production kits, resurrect discontinued ones that still hold up, and point their modelling resources towards the stuff that doesn't hold up or never had models in the first place.
Then they should create a home for all the armies/models in AoS somehow. Even if they don't find a home in the core books building out a limited & restrictive set of allegiance abilities would be nice. Stuff like greenskinz being playable in big waaagh!, kislev getting its own city where the subfaction ability is just access to the kislev units etc. GW is really hit or miss with compatibility between their games though, but that kind of compatibility with pull players into both games, and buying models for both games.

[novakai]

I think problem is reality you can’t keep selling old as eventually model will have to be retired and not everything is likely be replaced either.There always inventory and production limits in business and GW are not immune to those limitation

i also don’t think bring back old model is a recipe for success as that seems more of a big turn off then their flimsy promises of a game.

[WrathOfTheLion]

They answered many of those questions about scale and all last year in this article, so yes, we do know what scale, what bases, etc. will be in the game.

I'd expect factions that need refreshes for that are likely ones to see updates in AoS before ToW comes out. It was very easy to predict that there was going to be a large StD release for that very reason.

[cofaxest]

On 10/10/2022 at 2:36 PM, Beliman said:

Take in mind that not all Fyreslayers or KOs refuse to follow Grungni.

In the background, the Duardrazhal already happened (a big reunion between all Duardin factions) and Fyresalyers already have a rule that represent the conclusion of what happenedt:

We don't have a new KO battletome and we don't know what KOs are going to do with all this issue, but some new stories (mainly White Dwarfs, a few Broken Realms stories and Arkanaut Oath) have some hints in to what happened there and what's next. Some of our main cities are already refusing Grungni, even if his lawyer is Grombrindal (aka, Mhornar, Nar, etc...), but others seems to be a bit more flexible (Barak-Thryng).

Only time will tell if Grombrindal can do something but IMO, another Duardrazhal seems to be a waste of time. Their themes are completely diferent, looking to merge them seems a bit forced.

To be fair Thryng, Urbaz and Zilfin are 100% into Khazalid Empire so I can't see why this makes no sence. Some Fyreslayers could follow Gotrek as avatar of Grimnir and some Warden Kings will go on board by default. 

[silverstu]

7 hours ago, novakai said:

I think problem is reality you can’t keep selling old as eventually model will have to be retired and not everything is likely be replaced either.There always inventory and production limits in business and GW are not immune to those limitation

i also don’t think bring back old model is a recipe for success as that seems more of a big turn off then their flimsy promises of a game.

Yeah but as others have said a lot of the old kits really hold up. They sound like they are putting a lot into creating new models- provided there are enough of these supplemented with the better older kits I think they will do well. Those boar Boyz look amazing for example, the later dwarf kits are still in use [ I love the hammerers and iron breaker kits] - freshen them with a new warriors kit [maybe norse themed], slayers and a new character or two and you are good to go. Some old kits being available again would just be holding a spot until the kits get redone. I think the first two factions will get big updates and older kits will be available direct only initially. the rules will let people use their existing armies and then they can add/replace when they get updates. My dwarf army has evolved from 2nd/3rd edition and I still would be mad keen to get new dwarf warriors, plastic slayers [which I think some folk would use in AoS with fyreslayers] and any character models and war machines. Bringing back the old kits just allows accessibility for new players [or old players to round out their collections]. I can't wait it sounds great and sounds like they are doing a lot of work into it. 

[KingBrodd]

I wonder what the next 2 tomes will be? Are they releasing before STD or after? Im assuming 1 will be a Death Tome as theyve only released Nighthaunt so far.

[SunStorm]

10 hours ago, Ganigumo said:

I hope they do recycle some of the old ones, the kits from 8th edition still hold up like necropolis knights, necrosphinxes and the boar boyz. I really liked the 8th edition boar boy kit, and wish it had wormed its way into ironjawz somehow instead of getting squatted.


IMO the best thing they could do is re-use still in production kits, resurrect discontinued ones that still hold up, and point their modelling resources towards the stuff that doesn't hold up or never had models in the first place.
Then they should create a home for all the armies/models in AoS somehow. Even if they don't find a home in the core books building out a limited & restrictive set of allegiance abilities would be nice. Stuff like greenskinz being playable in big waaagh!, kislev getting its own city where the subfaction ability is just access to the kislev units etc. GW is really hit or miss with compatibility between their games though, but that kind of compatibility with pull players into both games, and buying models for both games.

Those boar boyz are not too bad in terms of sculpts. I've got some painted up and they fit alongside the gore-gruntas, as much as the ardboyz sculpts fit in with the brutes.

[Skreech Verminking]

16 hours ago, Greyshadow said:

I am delighted to see that beautiful art but I am all in on Age of Sigmar. I can’t see myself playing or collecting any Old World again. I am very happy for all those who are excited for its return. 🙂

Personally they have been making skaven less and less interesting.

unless they get a glow up soon in aos I might as well just play the old world, as long as they are as they were back then

[KingBrodd]

32 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:

Personally they have been making skaven less and less interesting.

unless they get a glow up soon in aos I might as well just play the old world, as long as they are as they were back then

I really want Skaven to be the big bad in 4.0. Or at least give them a Narrative Campaign.

[Plinketts Mawtribes]

Please...please...just give us the Ogor battletome.

[Ganigumo]

1 hour ago, KingBrodd said:

I wonder what the next 2 tomes will be? Are they releasing before STD or after? Im assuming 1 will be a Death Tome as theyve only released Nighthaunt so far.

My first guess is OBR. I doubt they'll get an expansion so soon and they couod use the new book.

Gitz are the next obvious choice. Bad book + no white dwarf but I could see a small spiderfang refresh of 2-3 kits (spider riders, monstrous spider/scuttleboss dual kit, + something else).

I could see Seraphon, KO, Khorne or FEC as well.

[Overread]

I really hope if there is a new Ossiarch Tome that it comes with several new models. I'd love to see them get a monstrous creature (dragon or dragonish thing) and some more infantry models (eg archers). I feel like a second wave of models would really do them some good, even if it means that their points costs come down a bit and they lose some of the elite style feel just so that they can fit more models on the tabletop. 

 

Flesheaters 100% need updated and new models. A new Getting Started set with an update to the zombie dragon kit and all would work wonders (and double as an update for Vampires). And with the feral elements of the Soulblight kicking around now there's elements GW could easily share between the two forces as shared models or as optional halves of a duel kit. 

 

[pnkdth]

25 minutes ago, Overread said:

I really hope if there is a new Ossiarch Tome that it comes with several new models. I'd love to see them get a monstrous creature (dragon or dragonish thing) and some more infantry models (eg archers). I feel like a second wave of models would really do them some good, even if it means that their points costs come down a bit and they lose some of the elite style feel just so that they can fit more models on the tabletop. 

 

Flesheaters 100% need updated and new models. A new Getting Started set with an update to the zombie dragon kit and all would work wonders (and double as an update for Vampires). And with the feral elements of the Soulblight kicking around now there's elements GW could easily share between the two forces as shared models or as optional halves of a duel kit. 

 

A chariot construct and light chariot "cavalry" + archers + a more punchy construct would be perfect.

As someone who wanted to start Avengorii in SBGL but got an overwhelming sense of meh when looking at their traits (why give them half traits/relics?! Some of them are just half of the generic version found in the core rules too). Like you say, there's plenty of dual kit potential to pretty much guarantee commercial success for those kits.

 

[KingBrodd]

1 hour ago, Ganigumo said:

My first guess is OBR. I doubt they'll get an expansion so soon and they couod use the new book.

Gitz are the next obvious choice. Bad book + no white dwarf but I could see a small spiderfang refresh of 2-3 kits (spider riders, monstrous spider/scuttleboss dual kit, + something else).

I could see Seraphon, KO, Khorne or FEC as well.

I agree 100%. New Spider Riders, Scuttleboss and a Medium Sized Spider monster. And please, PLEASE, Forest Troggs!!

28 minutes ago, Overread said:

I really hope if there is a new Ossiarch Tome that it comes with several new models. I'd love to see them get a monstrous creature (dragon or dragonish thing) and some more infantry models (eg archers). I feel like a second wave of models would really do them some good, even if it means that their points costs come down a bit and they lose some of the elite style feel just so that they can fit more models on the tabletop. 

 

Flesheaters 100% need updated and new models. A new Getting Started set with an update to the zombie dragon kit and all would work wonders (and double as an update for Vampires). And with the feral elements of the Soulblight kicking around now there's elements GW could easily share between the two forces as shared models or as optional halves of a duel kit. 

 

FEC and Ossiarch getting new minis would be epic.

[Jagged Red Lines]

Definitely feel that OBR will get at least a new archer unit, because of the teaser from Underworlds. Note that the Vanari Bladelords were also teased with an Underworlds model.

 

Edited October 15, 2022 by Jagged Red Lines

[Neverchosen]

The longer the Ogor book takes the more I feel we are waiting for Maneaters before the book drops. 🤞

[DinoJon]

1 hour ago, Neverchosen said:

The longer the Ogor book takes the more I feel we are waiting for Maneaters before the book drops. 🤞

My theory is that it will be Monday's reveal and then pre-order announcement the following weekend. 

I'm excited to see the new take on Maneaters and hoping they live up to everyone's expectation. 

[Neverchosen]

9 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

My theory is that it will be Monday's reveal and then pre-order announcement the following weekend. 

I'm excited to see the new take on Maneaters and hoping they live up to everyone's expectation. 

I feel like they will be Pirate/Total War inspired especially if the backwards capacity theories prove true:


Which as much as I would be happy with that is boring next to the idea of them reflecting the realms.

Edited October 15, 2022 by Neverchosen

[KingBrodd]

8 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

My theory is that it will be Monday's reveal and then pre-order announcement the following weekend. 

I'm excited to see the new take on Maneaters and hoping they live up to everyone's expectation. 

This would make the Mawtribes the best release this Edition!! I am in love with the Bloodpelt Hunter.