novakai Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, Mutton said: Source for this? well i saw a picture of the tome with the red binding on Discord but can't post it here because of obvious reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 GW really needs to do something about leak at this rate... 2 2 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyantheFett Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Anything else leaked besides the cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boingrot Bouncer Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, novakai said: well i saw a picture of the tome with the red binding on Discord but can't post it here because of obvious reason If it was just the front of the tome it would be a somewhat easy photoshop job to take the old front pic and put it on a 3.0 tome. Although considering all the current leaks it would not be surprising if it was leaked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 There's just no rhyme nor reason to the new battle tome covers, is there? Let's try to find a pattern: Stomcast Eternals: big new miniature range expansion; get a new cover that shows new unit. Orruk Warclans: big new miniature range expansion; get a new cover that shows new unit. Maggotkin of Nurgle: one infantry hero; get a new cover that shows new hero. Fyreslayers: one infantry hero; old cover. Idoneth Deepkin: one infantry hero; new cover that shows old hero. Nighthaunt: new hero; new named character; new unit; old cover. Daughters of Khaine: one infantry hero; new cover that shows old female gigachad deity that always gets her way; bow down to the queen b**** of the Mortal Realms. Skaven: one infantry hero; old cover. Sylvaneth: new named character; three new units; no new infantry hero; old cover. Lumineth: unknown additions to the army; old cover Slaves to Darkness: big new miniature range expansion; new cover that shows a crest or a symbol of the faction. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, novakai said: I tempt to play Stormcast in the old world and see how many Grognard scream “But My Immerzun” lol Pop an ogre head on the the older (chunkiest) chapters, and say these ogres expanded their gutplates a bit. Edited May 13, 2022 by zilberfrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Whitefang said: GW really needs to do something about leak at this rate... GW has many issues, the leak is hardly the first to tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I love the leaks and the spoilers but this is silly and boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nezzhil said: I love the leaks and the spoilers but this is silly and boring. What happened, have there already been leaks of the entire skaven battletome? Edited May 13, 2022 by Skreech Verminking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 If the Lumineth Tome cover is reused Ill be very annoyed. We cant keep having recycled covers, there is no reason other than laziness. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicar in a tutu Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: If the Lumineth Tome cover is reused Ill be very annoyed. We cabt kdep having recycled covers, there is no reason other than laziness. I agree that it sucks, but I don't think it has anything to do with laziness. I would guess it's a cost cutting measure. BTW, what is the situation in 9E 40K in terms of recycled codex covers? Not sure they have any recycled covers ... Edited May 13, 2022 by Vicar in a tutu Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Weird that the release dates haven't leaked yet. We still don't know when CSM or Warcry will fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, Vicar in a tutu said: I agree that it sucks, but I don't think it has anything to do with laziness. I would guess it's a cost cutting measure. BTW, what is the situation in 9E 40K in terms of recycled codex covers? Not sure they have any recycled covers ... GW's book prices and printing amounts do not really excuse recycling art. Cost cutting isn't a better excuse. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarminiatures Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, KingBrodd said: If the Lumineth Tome cover is reused Ill be very annoyed. We cabt kdep having recycled covers, there is no reason other than laziness. There's so many cool images in the current battletome, just put another of them on the cover at the very least - it's utter laziness. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) Lmao new Lumineth book, I told you all! And no Tyrion in the cover artwork either, Lumineth wave 5 confirmed. DoK leaks: Morathi up a mere 20 lmao Morathi keeps shoot twice CA Both snakes up 20 Witches down 5 🤣 Subfaction: +1 to blood rites (stacks) Witches and slaughter sisters +1 rend on charge Retreat and charge End of movement CA teleport Slaughter sisters fight twice on a 4+, target gets fight last Melusai fight on death Morathi lost +1 cast/unbind/dispel but is now -2 rend on heartrender. Shadow Queen degrades slower (doesnt bracket until 7) but is functionally the same. Both cost 680 together. Bow snakes have no changes. Damn must be nice to be a play tester army. Edited May 13, 2022 by PrimeElectrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Maogrim said: There's just no rhyme nor reason to the new battle tome covers, is there? Let's try to find a pattern: Stomcast Eternals: big new miniature range expansion; get a new cover that shows new unit. Orruk Warclans: big new miniature range expansion; get a new cover that shows new unit. Maggotkin of Nurgle: one infantry hero; get a new cover that shows new hero. Fyreslayers: one infantry hero; old cover. Idoneth Deepkin: one infantry hero; new cover that shows old hero. Nighthaunt: new hero; new named character; new unit; old cover. Daughters of Khaine: one infantry hero; new cover that shows old female gigachad deity that always gets her way; bow down to the queen b**** of the Mortal Realms. Skaven: one infantry hero; old cover. Sylvaneth: new named character; three new units; no new infantry hero; old cover. Lumineth: unknown additions to the army; old cover Slaves to Darkness: big new miniature range expansion; new cover that shows a crest or a symbol of the faction. The Slaves to Darkness one is the limited edition cover from an army set by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, Vicar in a tutu said: I agree that it sucks, but I don't think it has anything to do with laziness. I would guess it's a cost cutting measure. BTW, what is the situation in 9E 40K in terms of recycled codex covers? Not sure they have any recycled covers ... They dont have any, exactly, why does AOS? These new tomes have new art in them why not just slap that on the cover? GW is a multi million dollar company they can afford it. As someone who enjoys the Lore and Hobby more than rules the fact that my 'Lore Book' keeps getting the same cover is disheartening. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yondaime Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said: Lmao new Lumineth book, I told you all! And no Tyrion in the cover artwork either, Lumineth wave 5 confirmed. DoK leaks: Morathi up a mere 20 lmao Morathi keeps shoot twice CA Both snakes up 20 Witches down 5 🤣 Subfaction: +1 to blood rites (stacks) Witches and slaughter sisters +1 rend on charge Retreat and charge End of movement CA teleport Slaughter sisters fight twice on a 4+, target gets fight last Melusai fight on death Morathi lost +1 cast/unbind/dispel but is now -2 rend on heartrender. Shadow Queen degrades slower (doesnt bracket until 7) but is functionally the same. Both cost 680 together. Bow snakes have no changes. Damn must be nice to be a play tester army. So she keeps the 3 wound per turn rule? Lol and i was thinking that the new tome was releasing to fix that, one, if not, the most stupid and plain unfun rule in the whole game Then this tome has literall no reason to exist this close to the other Stupid me 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 40K also went through at least one phase of recycled covers. GW might have a lot of resources, but the division of resources within them can often seem to be slightly random and strange. There are likely logical reasons and some of it is going to come down to how the budget gets spread out. Perhaps they put less of the budget into new art because they are putting it into more moulds for models; perhaps the artists are a limited resource and they are working on other projects. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Yondaime said: So she keeps the 3 wound per turn rule? Lol and i was thinking that the new tome was releasing to fix that, one, if not, the most stupid and plain unfun rule in the whole game Then this tome has literall no reason to exist this close to the other Stupid me Morathi has had that since she first appeared. It simply means you can't "gang up" on her and wipe her out within a single turn. Instead you have to deal with her a bit like dealing with gotrek and a good few other big nasties in the game. You either ignore them because they are out in a flank so you focus on the rest of the game; or you distract and delay them. You accept that you'll take losses, but if you can tangle them up in close combat against some chaff or beefy units that also take damage slowly then you can hold them on the board and render them less useful. It's all about thinking outside of the kill box. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Overread said: Morathi has had that since she first appeared. It simply means you can't "gang up" on her and wipe her out within a single turn. Instead you have to deal with her a bit like dealing with gotrek and a good few other big nasties in the game. You either ignore them because they are out in a flank so you focus on the rest of the game; or you distract and delay them. You accept that you'll take losses, but if you can tangle them up in close combat against some chaff or beefy units that also take damage slowly then you can hold them on the board and render them less useful. It's all about thinking outside of the kill box. *removed for pre morning coffeee snark Edited May 13, 2022 by PrimeElectrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yondaime Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Overread said: Morathi has had that since she first appeared. It simply means you can't "gang up" on her and wipe her out within a single turn. Instead you have to deal with her a bit like dealing with gotrek and a good few other big nasties in the game. You either ignore them because they are out in a flank so you focus on the rest of the game; or you distract and delay them. You accept that you'll take losses, but if you can tangle them up in close combat against some chaff or beefy units that also take damage slowly then you can hold them on the board and render them less useful. It's all about thinking outside of the kill box. I am not saying that is broken or op, i am saying its plain boring and unfun Dok was tier S for a period and morathi was not the reason but surelly part of it, she can block whole armyes alone and hits like a truck Gotrek is totally a different matter, hes slow like hell and does nothing other than being a beatstick You cant ignore a flying teleporting monster that can charge everywhere and cant be killed in 2 round at best, and makes a unit shoot 2 times (and with DT this rules is broken as hell) Edited May 13, 2022 by Yondaime 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Overread said: 40K also went through at least one phase of recycled covers. GW might have a lot of resources, but the division of resources within them can often seem to be slightly random and strange. There are likely logical reasons and some of it is going to come down to how the budget gets spread out. Perhaps they put less of the budget into new art because they are putting it into more moulds for models; perhaps the artists are a limited resource and they are working on other projects. Fair point mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Overread said: 40K also went through at least one phase of recycled covers. GW might have a lot of resources, but the division of resources within them can often seem to be slightly random and strange. There are likely logical reasons and some of it is going to come down to how the budget gets spread out. Perhaps they put less of the budget into new art because they are putting it into more moulds for models; perhaps the artists are a limited resource and they are working on other projects. 40k’s was consistent with every book for the edition though, which made it seem more like an actual design decision and not just a random approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) Picture of the new Order Battletome doing the rounds. It's... Spoiler Lumineth. Nothing beyond that yet, and it's recycled art that could just be a Photoshop. Edited May 13, 2022 by Clan's Cynic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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