pnkdth Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 10 hours ago, SeanMaguire1991 said: I find it hard to care for the plight of the Chaos Worshipping marauders when faced with Sigmar's crusade. Imagine living in a region and when faced with an outside threat your liege shuts the door and leaves you to die. You watch your family, friends, people die or worse. Desperation and anger sets in and you do what you have to survive. After awhile, you manage not just to survive but you're thriving again. Once the storm is over he opens the doors again, expecting you to fall in line or face judgement as if he never left. How could you show anything but contempt and, dare I say it, righteous fury towards such a ruler? Where was this joker at your time of need? Logically, Sigmar's reasoning was sound (it was that or be overrun and lose completely) but when you're on the wrong side of his equation it would be hard to remain pragmatic about these things. I also think this extend to the points on Crusades as, much like 40k, the battle is about choosing the lesser evil and ruthless pragmatism. Sprinkled with humanity with all its flaws and aspirations. 32 minutes ago, Noserenda said: So you are saying Colonialism is fine when used against subhuman heathens? Sounds familiar... I dont think these things were laughed out by the writers, because i dont think the writers are actually arseholes (Because generally they arent) they just didnt have the outside perspective to see where it was all going, and seeing as if im right its cost the company time and money that only reinforces the importance of it. Its not about hope either, repeatedly going over just how grimderp suicidal the whole thing is is wasting word count that could be used for literally anything else like talking about how the different Order factions organise or support their crusades which is sorely lacking imho. Hell, a two page spread describing different ways of moving the floaty rocks instead of just raw manpower? Wind spirits, clanking steam wagons, harnessed hydras, Ironclads etc etc the potential is pretty limitless. Never underestimate the power of short-sighted self-interest. The various factions have different goals and to expect them to unite around each other might seem like a great idea from someone, like us, with a bird's eyes view of the entire setting. The people within the setting are not able to 'meta game' and somehow just know what happened in X or Y battle or what took place in key events. I would also add 'limitless' in theory but everything you suggest cost resources and what if the failure rate is similar? Add in the politics of who gets what, who pays for it, who stands to gain, and the inflated egos who refuse to act on their political rivals idea just in case it might work. Then add the additional intrigue of the gods and got a situation were it is also important for them who gets the glory and emerge at the top. "We are like butterflies who flutter for a day and think it is forever", as Carl Sagan so eloquently put it. My point is perspective, from mortals to gods who each have a mortal and immortal view on the passing of time while leads to contradiction goals and mindsets. TL;DR for both: Perspective and context matter to those stuck in it. Everyone think their idea is the best and no one is the villain in their own story. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratboy genius Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, Noserenda said: So you are saying Colonialism is fine when used against subhuman heathens? Its not about hope either, repeatedly going over just how grimderp suicidal the whole thing is is wasting word count that could be used for literally anything else like talking about how the different Order factions organise or support their crusades which is sorely lacking imho. Hell, a two page spread describing different ways of moving the floaty rocks instead of just raw manpower? Wind spirits, clanking steam wagons, harnessed hydras, Ironclads etc etc the potential is pretty limitless. it's a holy war, not colonialism, and gw isn't interested in detailing logistics in their wargame, every time they've attempted it's always sounded goofy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I wish I had a modicum of a singing voice so I could record--to the tune of 'What's the Use of Feeling (blue)--the certified TGA classic 'Return Back to Rumours (Please)'. Why would you want to argue sirs Topics that flamewar stirs Do you want geedubs sue? Mod hat on Return back to rumours, please I don’t care squat Of duardin phenotypes Leaks of 4chan’s rot Or Sigmarites in tights Words like colonise I fully try to ignore Where’s the rumours When the mods need it, please? We need them rumours, please! 7 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Public Universal Duardin said: I wish I had a modicum of a singing voice so I could record--to the tune of 'What's the Use of Feeling (blue)--the certified TGA classic 'Return Back to Rumours (Please)'. I think the problem is that the Rumour Thread is really more of a 'General Discussion' thread. When there's rarely any actual rumours of news, there's nothing to really bring things back around to anything but the current discussion. Kids these days don't even make new Topics. In my day, forums would have pages of different threads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: I think the problem is that the Rumour Thread is really more of a 'General Discussion' thread. When there's rarely any actual rumours of news, there's nothing to really bring things back around to anything but the current discussion. Kids these days don't even make new Topics. In my day, forums would have pages of different threads... I'm fully aware, after all, I infiltrate the hobby post my MS Paint pepes here instead of reddit and ramble on like Abe Simpson. But as the court jester of this forum I am clowning on everyone here (including myself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) The results are in... and they will shock nobody. Spoiler 1. Be'lakor 2. Crab 3. Helbrecht Edited December 31, 2021 by Clan's Cynic 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: The results are in... and they will shock nobody. Duinclaw beat THE Space Marine!! All hail our Crustacean Overlord!! 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbaf Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I hope Duinclaw will open the path of many Idoneth Creatures ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: The results are in... and they will shock nobody. Hide contents 1. Be'lakor 2. Crab 3. Helbrecht 2/3 are AoS*, we did it TGA! *From a certain point of view 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said: No live streamed Preview, but will apparently be showing some things off via Community. I wouldn't get my hopes up for much though. Where did they say they will be showing things off on WarCom? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Templar_Lad Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Pretty pleased with those results. Bel and Helbrecht were in my top 3 but I voted for Kroak, outstanding models all of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ogregut said: Where did they say they will be showing things off on WarCom? Response to someone's question on an Instagram post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 59 minutes ago, Public Universal Duardin said: I wish I had a modicum of a singing voice so I could record--to the tune of 'What's the Use of Feeling (blue)--the certified TGA classic 'Return Back to Rumours (Please)'. Why would you want to argue sirs Topics that flamewar stirs Do you want geedubs sue? Mod hat on Return back to rumours, please I don’t care squat Of duardin phenotypes Leaks of 4chan’s rot Or Sigmarites in tights Words like colonise I fully try to ignore Where’s the rumours When the mods need it, please? We need them rumours, please! I read that in what I feel is a darker, gloomier, more emo version of Edgar Allen Poe. 57 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: I think the problem is that the Rumour Thread is really more of a 'General Discussion' thread. When there's rarely any actual rumours of news, there's nothing to really bring things back around to anything but the current discussion. Kids these days don't even make new Topics. In my day, forums would have pages of different threads... The issue with making more topics is those topics clutter up the pages and get lost, which results in even more of the same topics popping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Sigvald came 4th so that's three out of the top four for AoS. My own pick didn't even get a mention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I wont be surprised if the preview tomorrow is the Primaris missile unit or the 'heavy' dread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: The results are in... and they will shock nobody. Reveal hidden contents 1. Be'lakor 2. Crab 3. Helbrecht Stop the Count. The crab won but GW fixed it because they wanted to frustrate our meme. Half the people who voted for Belakor aren't even alive. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfyre Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Voted for Be’lakor and then got him for xmas. Dark magic at play. Edited December 31, 2021 by Starfyre 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Starfyre said: Voted for Be’lakor and then got him for xmas. Dark magic at play. Teacher says, That's right, that's right. Attaboy, Duinclaw. Hopefully we now get a unit of Ogor Sized Crustaceans and a unit of Namarti Hopolites in Heavy Crab Armour with razor sharp claws on their forearms to be used like push daggers! Also lets not forget Spinefin who probably helped some people vote for the unit as well, lets get a swarm of them! Then we need someone to lead them and my vote goes for an Isharann Embailor riding on a large ray, I imagine it being like riding a disc of Tzeentch! This little subfaction will need a centre piece and as much as I want a kraken, I would prefer a sea serpent that is a mix of a dragon and an oar fish. Edited December 31, 2021 by Neverchosen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/31/2021-in-review-this-years-greatest-warhammer-hits/ Check back in tomorrow for a glimpse of what's to come in the next 12 months. Let's Go!! 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/31/2021-in-review-this-years-greatest-warhammer-hits/ Check back in tomorrow for a glimpse of what's to come in the next 12 months. Let's Go!! Expecting to see some glimpses of Eldar, Chaos Space Marines, Cursed City Expansions, Warcry models and a hint at the next hero model after the Fyreslayer/IDK box! With a big reveal of a cool Eldar model 😁 What I want to see is some new Idoneth and Fyreslayer units 😭 Edited December 31, 2021 by Neverchosen 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I've tweeted at WarCom with an offer to bribe them with copious amounts of Ur-gold if they convince the design team to make duardin women minis. That's why they held no live stream today, they had to first wait for the design team to quickly make mockups You can thank me later, I'm doing this for you guys 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/31/2021-in-review-this-years-greatest-warhammer-hits/ Check back in tomorrow for a glimpse of what's to come in the next 12 months. Let's Go!! I wonder if it'll be another 'part of a model' teaser video like they did last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gailon Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 18 hours ago, dirkdragonslayer said: Malerion has been being "rumored" since 1st edition, any mention of him in any rumor schedule needs a heavy pinch of salt. And I don't see how Silent People would somehow be Death unless its a bunch of zombie bug carcasses. I heard one YouTuber (cinderfall gaming?) saying that Silent People would be death worshippers who live under Beast Grave. I could definitely see having a death faction that wasn’t undead, but consisted of worshippers of death. Makes some sense for a big race that probably consumes the dead to worship death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Templar_Lad Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/31/2021-in-review-this-years-greatest-warhammer-hits/ Check back in tomorrow for a glimpse of what's to come in the next 12 months. Let's Go!! LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO! Expecting just one model but come ooooooooon AoS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Quite pleased that the first one is a shared model Then we get a rather subdued small mini from an AoS related specialist game. Even though it was memey. Space marine exists, 40k Then we have the glorious Sigvald, AoS Rather nice looking 40k Ork Nundam (the prettier version) 40k Kroak AoS Daddy Dragon AoS That's not looking too bad for AoS, a nice 40/50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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