Neil Arthur Hotep Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doko said: In my opinion the fix is easy: -remove doubleturn as maaaaaaaaaaany people hate it -or put the same alternate activate units that we have in melle but in shooting but this wont do anything if the enemy havent shooting The second point would only make shooting worse. It would just mean that shooting armies get to shoot you twice a turn. Also, in all polls on this topic I have seen people prefer the double turn over I-go-you-go. The double turn has a crucial function: Mitigating the advantage of going first. If you remove it, we'll quickly shift into an alpha strike meta. The real answer is to make the double turn more interactive so that you can play to get it or deny it to your opponent. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Huanchi said: Stormcast Chariots -> "Imperishables" Stormhost I‘d buy that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, Neil Arthur Hotep said: The second point would only make shooting worse. It would just mean that shooting armies get to shoot you twice a turn. Also, in all polls on this topic I have seen people prefer the double turn over I-go-you-go. The double turn has a crucial function: Mitigating the advantage of going first. If you remove it, we'll quickly shift into an alpha strike meta. The real answer is to make the double turn more interactive so that you can play to get it or deny it to your opponent. the other poll I saw there was a An equal clear divide on keeping double turn and ditching It so quite a controversial mechanic right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Soo Necromunda just got a preview of some new models incoming and someone on Facebook said something that sounded like a really good idea Spoiler Daughters of Khaine CATS No no really they are Phyrr cats for Necromunda House of Escher army. But still cats for the snake/bat aelves! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, novakai said: the other poll I saw there was a An equal clear divide on keeping double turn and ditching It so quite a controversial mechanic right now It's not uncontroversial, that's for sure, and I know that a lot of people who are in favour of keeping it are also in favour of reworking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 MOD NOTICE minor one ( so no red text) but can we take Double Turn discussions to their own thread please. It tends to get very active in chat very quickly so instead of risking de-railing Rumours can we please take the Double Turn to its own thread. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadral Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, Overread said: Soo Necromunda just got a preview of some new models incoming and someone on Facebook said something that sounded like a really good idea Hide contents Daughters of Khaine CATS No no really they are Phyrr cats for Necromunda House of Escher army. But still cats for the snake/bat aelves! I see them more like a new replacement for frost sabres 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 53 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Would be nice, but do you think GW would see updaing the three year old Judicator kit as a good move when *guestures broadly at Seraphon*? The same GW that updates Space Marines on a yearly basis whilst other armies languish with models 20+ years old? Yeah, that GW. 😛 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, JackStreicher said: Maybe it would be enough if you simply COULD NOT target any solo characters (neither with spells nor shooting) that benefit from "look out sir". And maybe a -1 to hit when you target big one-man units. Doubt it, it would just move everything not other direction IMO, back to dozen heros buffing large block and if you can't do that you die. But it's just a tought. 1 hour ago, SleeperAgent said: I love the double turn. If it didn't exist AoS would just be fantasy 40k, which would turn me away easily since 40k is boring. And I would love double to be removed, but not by changing it to 40k system as I think you are right. It's not binary choice however and many different systems are in use, even in GW games. I don't want to get here too much into all that, it's rumor thread after all. And especially discussions about priority crop up regularly. EDIT: Yeah and there is Mod notice even Edited November 10, 2020 by Boar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Khadral said: I see them more like a new replacement for frost sabres Do note that these seem 25mm bases (based on height/diam) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Huanchi said: Stormcast Chariots -> "Imperishables" Stormhost Settra does not serve. Not Nagash. Not the Chaos gods. Not Sigmar. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, zilberfrid said: Settra does not serve. Not Nagash. Not the Chaos gods. Not Sigmar. But he does Serve The great Horned Rat!! even if not on purpose yes-yes😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyRebirth Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I'm afraid my own expectation management means that any interesting-looking Rumour Engine image immediately gets filed in the "probably just a Warcry/Underworlds warband" section... But: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realmhead Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Rumor engine: Female Knight-Venator for Underworlds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutrotSpume Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Aren’t those arrows the same as the slaanesh archer from Underworlds? Also matches an arrow you get on the mega gargant kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icegoat Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Rumours abound now that cities are definitely going to be gone as an army come the new edition broken realms is the end times but specifically for old dwarf and human models the dark elf models are going to be kept and rolled into the new morathi faction. What a shame. I guess phoenicum will be the next city to go that will get rid of phoenix guard. It's actually pretty good news because it means GW MUST has to will need to release a new human faction at some point in aos 3.0. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Love how cities of sigmar armies are evolving. Can see dwarfen heavy cities coming as well as the more traditional mixed type. I think cities of sigmar is one of the most exciting factions going forward in AoS as there is so much that can be done. Bring it on!! 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, SlyRebirth said: I'm afraid my own expectation management means that any interesting-looking Rumour Engine image immediately gets filed in the "probably just a Warcry/Underworlds warband" section... But: Probably the remains of a dead Spacecast, after the skaven have finally build the soul stealer War engine, meant to make an end to this stupid reforging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 It's a stormcast archer with a swishy helmet thing because it's being swept away by the Idoneth endless spell just out of shot. 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plavski Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, Icegoat said: Rumours abound now that cities are definitely going to be gone as an army come the new edition broken realms is the end times but specifically for old dwarf and human models the dark elf models are going to be kept and rolled into the new morathi faction. What a shame. I guess phoenicum will be the next city to go that will get rid of phoenix guard. It's actually pretty good news because it means GW MUST has to will need to release a new human faction at some point in aos 3.0. Take any 'this faction is going away' rumours with a truckload of salt. Remember when someone 'saw' a GW board that said how Seraphon was being squatted? There are rumours, and then there are 4chan rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, Icegoat said: Rumours abound now that cities are definitely going to be gone as an army come the new edition Evidence please. And I mean actual evidence, not just conjecture based on lore developments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, swarmofseals said: Evidence please. And I mean actual evidence, not just conjecture based on lore developments. As one of the persons very much doubting its longevity, I haven't seen any indication of its demise. Inclusion in Morathi even implies continued paper support through AoS 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, zilberfrid said: As one of the persons very much doubting its longevity, I haven't seen any indication of its demise. Inclusion in Morathi even implies continued paper support through AoS 3 I tip my cap to you, sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 For those unaware Icegoat has been predicting the demise of humanity/cities of sigmar for ages now. Right now we've 1 campaign book and no idea what is to come in the future. Rumours are a rare thing now and with GW firing out new products regularly and with news typically up to around 3 months in advance ( a bit less right now most likely due to corona) we just don't get staff risking jobs breaking NDA. So rumours are rare, esp long term ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icegoat Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, zilberfrid said: As one of the persons very much doubting its longevity, I haven't seen any indication of its demise. Inclusion in Morathi even implies continued paper support through AoS 3 The easy evidence is model availability. Old dark elves box is being sold in new packaging the other good guy city faction is all stormcast. The druchii shall survive this purge but mark it now by the broken realms end the city model line will be at an end. I can dream that this will mean aos 3 will release with a human faction box vs skaven or something but that probably wont happen yet. New humans are definitely arriving broken realms has confirmed it Once full spoilers are out and allowed people will see how the old cities book is already obsolete now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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