LordPrometheus Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Erdemo86 said: Really loving Lord Commander Bo Jackson... Absolute stud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, LordPrometheus said: New tome confirmed, but I didn't see a release date.... August. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Nizrah said: August. that was a bit of a bummer, I was hoping for July in order to end this bizarre interregnum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Marcvs said: that was a bit of a bummer, I was hoping for July in order to end this bizarre interregnum Same, sadly i will have to attempt one more tournemnt with old battletome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Anyway, in previev they said everything is getting retouched so with some sneaked point cost like Judicators costing 200 pts i trully belive we finally will be elite army. Also with new Lord Commander (FINALLY)x(Poor Vandus) im so super hyped! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkayestDM Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, JustAsPlanned said: A Lord Commander actually having a model is like, really big lorewise. They lead the ENTIRE Stormhost, so the Hammers having one of them really ups their stock. I wonder if he's on a 50mm base. You know, like Gardus . . . ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrometheus Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nizrah said: August. Did they say what date in August? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, LordPrometheus said: Did they say what date in August? 21 minutes ago, Nizrah said: August. It’s August *preorder.* Expect September 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I am all over Vigilors like a wet flannel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodos der Henker Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, LordPrometheus said: Did they say what date in August? pre-order in August, going by with other books this means release is first week of September 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Preorder for battletomes or for everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I am really sorry. I just can’t understand why people are happy? Again new foot troops? Again a new shooting unit? WE HAVE PLENTY AlREADY. Just give them proper rules. i actually just sold all my Stormcast and try to go with another army. The process of reforging casts that are barley 3 years old is not a way I want to support. I really can’t understand GW strategy here. sorry… 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, rosa said: I am really sorry. I just can’t understand why people are happy? Again new foot troops? Again a new shooting unit? WE HAVE PLENTY AlREADY. Just give them proper rules. i actually just sold all my Stormcast and try to go with another army. The process of reforging casts that are barley 3 years old is not a way I want to support. I really can’t understand GW strategy here. sorry… Seems like GW failed to force stormcast into the role as fantasy space marines (as far as popularity and sales are concerned) and then smacked themselves on the forehead and said oh right silly us people want PRIMARIS stormcast! Sure these look way better than the originals but I won't be buying any even though I like them because like you said. I'm not gonna support making new versions of 3 year old models while other armies still have finecast older than I am... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NauticalSoup Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I expect to be doing a lot more proxying with my existing casts, which is fine because nobody nobody every knows what any of my stuff is as is and nobody seems to like SCE round here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtus-XIV Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Erdemo86 said: The Vigilors with the drawn swords and bows look weird to me. I hope you can pose them as either shooting their bow or fighting with sword not a weird mix of both at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptinskaggy Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I can see why old hands might be annoyed with the direction that the new models are taking, but for new(er) people like me who came in with AOS 2.0 these new models are a godsend. That original wave of Stormcast never appealed to me so I'm looking forward to getting better looking (imo) troops that fill similar niches to compliment my Sacrosanct. The vigilors in particular I think are a tremendous improvement over the old judicators, and the vanquishers just look absolutely sick. Keeping the robes will really help tie them together with the Sacrosanct as well, which I appreciate. One caveat I think I'm seeing with these Thunderstrike Stormcast is that they don't seem to have any special weapons interspersed within their units like the older ones do. I think that consideration might have to be made for the extra striking power that liberators and sequitors have with their grandhammers and greatmaces or judicators have with the special prime weapons. Guess we'll see with the new battletome how they all fit together. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtus-XIV Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Kaptinskaggy said: I can see why old hands might be annoyed with the direction that the new models are taking, but for new(er) people like me who came in with AOS 2.0 these new models are a godsend. That original wave of Stormcast never appealed to me so I'm looking forward to getting better looking (imo) troops that fill similar niches to compliment my Sacrosanct. The vigilors in particular I think are a tremendous improvement over the old judicators, and the vanquishers just look absolutely sick. Keeping the robes will really help tie them together with the Sacrosanct as well, which I appreciate. One caveat I think I'm seeing with these Thunderstrike Stormcast is that they don't seem to have any special weapons interspersed within their units like the older ones do. I think that consideration might have to be made for the extra striking power that liberators and sequitors have with their grandhammers and greatmaces or judicators have with the special prime weapons. Guess we'll see with the new battletome how they all fit together. I like that they don’t have two weapon types interspersed - it speeds up gameplay not having to roll two different weapon profiles. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 hours ago, The Red King said: Seems like GW failed to force stormcast into the role as fantasy space marines (as far as popularity and sales are concerned) and then smacked themselves on the forehead and said oh right silly us people want PRIMARIS stormcast! Sure these look way better than the originals but I won't be buying any even though I like them because like you said. I'm not gonna support making new versions of 3 year old models while other armies still have finecast older than I am... 2 hours ago, rosa said: I am really sorry. I just can’t understand why people are happy? Again new foot troops? Again a new shooting unit? WE HAVE PLENTY AlREADY. Just give them proper rules. i actually just sold all my Stormcast and try to go with another army. The process of reforging casts that are barley 3 years old is not a way I want to support. I really can’t understand GW strategy here. sorry… Or more realistically the original SCE range was adapted from something else that it was originally intended for to meet the changing market/company strategy, subsequent releases were aligned to that original adapted design, and with time/technology GW can now do better and so take the opportunity to revitalise their flagship AoS line. You know, the one that is meant to go in all marketing and advertise the game to new players and show off the best of what GW is capable. Take a moment and ask yourself if Liberators really fit that specification. Take solace in the fact that GW aren’t immediately squatting old cast and move on. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Hey everyone, I am new to Stormcast jumping in with Dominion. I am really excited about this project and creating some angelic paladins to battle my forces of Chaos and Destruction. I had a Knight Incantor and five Sequitors which I purchased intending to make a Chaos Sorcerer Lord and some Chosen (originally just bought the paint set and decided to round out the unit), but I never got around to it. Then when Dominion was announced I realized they would make for a good jumping on point. I was thinking of adding a couple of ballistas and possibly a hero to round out 2000 points, but these new reveals were so cool I might hold off for a bit until the book is released and I can really plan out my list especially as the points are subject to change in fairly short order. I will say though that I really love the Vigolors and Bastian Carthalos... I might just have to find a way to include them in my list. I will be busy working on a small Beastclaw force but I will pop in here occasionally to ask dumb questions about Stormcast rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAsPlanned Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I think the Thunderstrike units are meant to serve a similar role to Veteran units in Space Marine armies - similar to the baseline unit, only a bit more tough and elite. Ie, the Vigilors shown today and the new Chariot seems to be apart of the same conclave as the Judicators, and the Annihilators seem to be more evolved versions of the Paladin units. Heck, if the rumours - and my personal suspicions - end up being correct, the new Dragon cavalry unit will be an expansion to the Extremis chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) More infantry is boring as heck, especially in the same 5 man squads we've been getting for 5 years now Knight-Relictor is literally just a space marine Glad to see the Lord-Commander finally, too bad it's Hammers of Sigmar. There really should be more fanfare for a dude of this rank, it's like introducing a primarch for 40k Vigilors look like Vanguard-Hunters 2.0. Hopefully their damage is actually good this time Not surprised at all to see Annihilators with more weapon options in a full kit released after the starter kit. I am surprised they didn't do the same thing with Vindictors. Edited July 3, 2021 by PJetski 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 3x 5 Vidocators - 140 x3 Andrasta - 300 Tauralon - 300 -general - flaming weapon - amulet of destiny - Staunch Defender - Keen Clawed Important - 160 Azyros - 110 - Fury Brand Heraldor - 110 Anihilators - 190 4x Desolators - 410 Warlord Battalion Tauralon + Andrasta Important, Azyros, Helardor Vindocators, Vindicators ---------- Vindicators Desolators Anihilators 2x Artifact Strategists 2000 My first and last roster on 3.0 with old ass battletome. No idea what im doing XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, PJetski said: More infantry is boring as heck, especially in the same 5 man squads we've been getting for 5 years now Knight-Relictor is literally just a space marine Glad to see the Lord-Commander finally, too bad it's Hammers of Sigmar. There really should be more fanfare for a dude of this rank, it's like introducing a primarch for 40k Vigilors look like Vanguard-Hunters 2.0. Hopefully their damage is actually good this time Not surprised at all to see Annihilators with more weapon options in a full kit released after the starter kit. I am surprised they didn't do the same thing with Vindictors. Vindictors and vanquisher will be in one kit I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 hours ago, rosa said: I am really sorry. I just can’t understand why people are happy? Again new foot troops? Again a new shooting unit? WE HAVE PLENTY AlREADY. Just give them proper rules. i actually just sold all my Stormcast and try to go with another army. The process of reforging casts that are barley 3 years old is not a way I want to support. I really can’t understand GW strategy here. sorry… why would you do that before our new tome is even out...? it sounds like you were ready to do this anyway regardless. everything so far keeps pointing to the fact that all the old kits are getting rules refreshes to bring them into proper synergy/stats. 4 hours ago, The Red King said: Seems like GW failed to force stormcast into the role as fantasy space marines (as far as popularity and sales are concerned) and then smacked themselves on the forehead and said oh right silly us people want PRIMARIS stormcast! Sure these look way better than the originals but I won't be buying any even though I like them because like you said. I'm not gonna support making new versions of 3 year old models while other armies still have finecast older than I am... I always remember WHFB having a more diverse player army spread than 40k, so I don't know why GW would expect the same Space Marine fad from AOS.. maybe they will replace the old kits in another 3 years but to me this IS all new stuff--sure it's more infantry and foot heroes but they have different kits and differing abilities to anything else. Vigilors might impede Hunters a bit but it all depends on how warscrolls and chamber abilities change. and tbh, the new look/armor for Stormcast feels much better. I prefer the knightlier vibe a lot more than the chunky armor, even though Judicators are my favorite kit of the army. is this too much Stormcast stuff? I would say yeah, especially considering the preview article said there'd be "more to come for Stormcast and Orruk Warclans" ... is this replacing old kits? No it's not and I am tired of people saying it is. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Neverchosen said: Hey everyone, I am new to Stormcast jumping in with Dominion. I am really excited about this project and creating some angelic paladins to battle my forces of Chaos and Destruction. I had a Knight Incantor and five Sequitors which I purchased intending to make a Chaos Sorcerer Lord and some Chosen (originally just bought the paint set and decided to round out the unit), but I never got around to it. Then when Dominion was announced I realized they would make for a good jumping on point. I was thinking of adding a couple of ballistas and possibly a hero to round out 2000 points, but these new reveals were so cool I might hold off for a bit until the book is released and I can really plan out my list especially as the points are subject to change in fairly short order. I will say though that I really love the Vigolors and Bastian Carthalos... I might just have to find a way to include them in my list. I will be busy working on a small Beastclaw force but I will pop in here occasionally to ask dumb questions about Stormcast rules. i would wait to buy full unit kits unless you find good secondhand deals. priority heroes that will always be worth buying when you want to: Lord Relictor (parted out from 1.0 boxes or bought secondhand) Knight Incantor (parted out from Soul Wars or from the Getting Started mag)Lord Castellant (direct GW or 3rd party) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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