The Rumour Thread

[DinoJon]

12 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

The UK's Summer doesn't start until the end of June. Seems like they'll be out after 10th 40k if they're consistent with the Roadmap.

Could be we see an Army Box with (some of?) the new kits and the fancy codex in May though?

Crushed my hope with a simple sentence and now I'm sad. 

[The Red King]

I have it on good authority khorne is going to be good but these rules must be the least inspiring of the book?

 

I mean a 5+ ward is cool but unless the other half of that rule is missing it implies those demons are furious until they get into combat where they have their emotional support blood spray to calm them down? 

 

Chip mortal wounds on death is yawn inducing and the final ability is cool but meaningless until we know how blood tithe works/costs/etc.

[Ogregut]

28 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

Crushed my hope with a simple sentence and now I'm sad. 

Astrological summer starts at the end of June, meteorological summer is the 1st of June. 

Seems GW is using meteorological as otherwise the Kharadron, khorne and slannesh battletomes would be down as being released in winter on the road map as astrologically we are still in winter. 

[Sunshine]

I am super hyped after the TOW news today, even more so that it seems like the Brettonian v. Tomb Kings starter rumour could be correct. I just hope it comes this year now.

[KingBrodd]

2 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Next week's AdeptiCon lineup. Guessing we'll see the new Underworlds starter and remainder of the Seraphon at least.

OK. BRODDS PREDICTIONS!!

Seraphon Army Box and Limited Tome revealed. 

Ossiarch Tome and Hero.

Soulblight Tome and Hero.

Seasons of War Gallet.

New Spider Incarnate.

Tzeentch Underworlds Warband.

[Baron Klatz]

Solid predictions of titanic proportions! 😎👍

Triple win for me with new Soulblight hero, that long awaited Incarnate and a new footing for the Ossiarchs to stand on for me to finally jump into their force.

2 hours ago, Snarff said:

If this is even true, I really hope being usable in both systems doesn't impact AoS negatively. If the models need to be rank and file, they can't have nearly as dynamic poses as AoS sculpts have. Or that factions that can be used in both games have to be toned down aesthetically to make them fit the old world. I also hope it means there won't be priority for armies that are usable in both, or some AoS armies will go yet another edition without anything but a few new heroes.

Going by Runebrush’s 2020 interview with them I’m not worried about it. The studios aren’t in communication with eachother so they can cater to their respective fanbases(cosmic fantasy vs low gothic)

“As an addition, I was in the Age of Sigmar seminar earlier and Ben Johnson confirmed that there isn't any form of formal discussion between the Specialist Games and AoS studios (I'm meaning interdepartmental discussion here, not that they've fallen out with each other). This is deliberate and as Ben pointed out makes The Old World really exciting for players such as him that have played classic fantasy battle. What that means is it's no use pestering him (or other people within the AoS studio) for information - they have exactly the same amount of knowledge that we have!”

Hopefully with TOW handling the generic nostalgia factor it will give AoS even more room to go crazy and focus on the wackier side of the Mortal Realms instead of a middle ground so we can finally get full out Gholemkin, Silent People, Aetar, Rootkings, elementals and the outlandish updates on the armies like Fyreslayer four-winged lava wyrms, Stormcast void beasts/star ships, Deepkin battle whales, Soulblight Avengorii centaur cavalry, Lumineth giant Pachyderm sages, Daughters of Behemat and their cathedral-sized two headed hounds big etc.

Aetheric skies the limit! 🤩

[CommissarRotke]

On 3/11/2023 at 4:19 PM, Captaniser said:

"Cathay was made because of big audience and they needed good guys for all the demons."
Yeah, bit of a yikes to admit that, but okay i guess

We always knew this though; it was why people were guessing Kislev even before TWW3 announcement. We knew the game needed to put in The Big Four, which meant Chaos Wastes, which meant Kislev. Andy also mentioned Three Kingdoms itself was a pretty big reason why GW said ok to the idea of adding Cathay.

On 3/11/2023 at 4:19 PM, Captaniser said:

We will see more "types of DLCs we havent seen before"

Hopefully means some multiplayer-compatible campaign packs, I would love to see smaller map areas for both solo and multi like what the game launched with. I could also see this tying to "some new races" to mean that they could make Cathayan vampires and Norse dwarves for a small price.

 

On 3/11/2023 at 4:19 PM, Captaniser said:

"We have occasionally brought in some AoS units when it was appropriate, when we got away with it like demon design and tzeentch disk knights"

Don't hold your breath for Nippon.

Good. GW should make an AOS Total War before trying to rewrite expand totally-not-India and totally-not-Japan.

[Grungnisson]

2 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Next week's AdeptiCon lineup. Guessing we'll see the new Underworlds starter and remainder of the Seraphon at least.

Oh boi! Can't wait for the first Lumineth battletome of 2023!

[Draznak]

44 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:

OK. BRODDS PREDICTIONS!!

Seraphon Army Box and Limited Tome revealed. 

Ossiarch Tome and Hero.

Soulblight Tome and Hero.

Seasons of War Gallet.

New Spider Incarnate.

Tzeentch Underworlds Warband.

 

I hope you're right but that seems like a bit too much menu for a single game, ok there's Underworlds in it, while there's more to cover (and we know 40k is going to carve out the Lion's share 😜 ).

Hurry to be there to see who will be right ! 

[DinoJon]

Oh @KingBrodd master of positivity, assure me that Seraphon will be out before 10th edition. 

 

Also Lustria supplement comes out this week and physical book for pre-order. Looks like I got some reading ahead. 

[Beliman]

5 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

Oh @KingBrodd master of positivity, assure me that Seraphon will be out before 10th edition. 

 

Also Lustria supplement comes out this week and physical book for pre-order. Looks like I got some reading ahead. 

I don't have any Fantary Role Play book, but I will buy this just because it has the Vampire Coast in it.

3 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Ouch that W'ardhurns! I will never be tired to say that Conquest has probably the best ruleset in the market. I love that game!

[HorticulusTGA]

Re : Adepticon

Being reasonably enthusiastic, IMO for AOS we'll "just" get the (potential) Seraphon Launch Box (containing an as-of-yet unseen unit and the battletome).

And something extra, like a new Incarnate / Season of War Book / etc. GW'll probably keep the two Death tomes for Monday reveals (and Dawnbringer for Warhammer Fest... or*...).

For Underworlds, I expect the full reveal of the new season Sarter Set, with Tzeentch Daemons vs Freeguild Veterans* (which could be a kind of Dawnbringer preview on its own). Season still set in Ghur, maybe inside some Seraphon Ruins (as I expect the next Warcry season to be set, after Nightmare Quest, ala Gallowdark - Dungeon style).

Spoiler

We know the Seraphon ship was hit by Tzeentch fires, maybe some Freeguild thought to take refuge from the forest inside Chaos held-ruins and BAM. 

 

[Ganigumo]

1 hour ago, The Red King said:

I have it on good authority khorne is going to be good but these rules must be the least inspiring of the book?

 

I mean a 5+ ward is cool but unless the other half of that rule is missing it implies those demons are furious until they get into combat where they have their emotional support blood spray to calm them down? 

 

Chip mortal wounds on death is yawn inducing and the final ability is cool but meaningless until we know how blood tithe works/costs/etc.

The ward feels kind of thematic and should help those daemons get stuck it, a lot will depend on the other rules though.

The chip mortals feel like an attempt to streamline fighting on death, while its less interesting you don't need to measure, pile-in, roll hit/wound/save rolls etc. I don't really like it either but I see what they were going for. Maybe there will be ways to get true fights on death in addition though.

[Elbaf]

Valrak just said in a live stream that Adepticon will show us a Cities of Sigmar boxset, he looked pretty damn sure about that

I mostly trust him for 40K but if that's true it would change of the Seraphon reveals, it would be kind of strange

[CommissarRotke]

5 hours ago, OkayestDM said:

None of us believed the Brets vs Tomb Kings rumor because it absolutely screamed of wishlisting. Yet here we are . . .

I'm surprised that GW went with two faction that - despite their devoted following - purportedly sold rather poorly. 

Yeah we'll see if their Total war popularity transfers to real sales... I can say that if this is the launch matchup for TOW I'm out for sure. There were valid reasons why neither army could keep enough interest when WHF was around. I could see TK being the simpler army to paint for new players, but Bretonnia certainly isn't. And gameplay wise I don't remember either army being very starter friendly, ESPECIALLY if Line-of-sight and charging angles are coming back.

 

5 hours ago, AresX8 said:

This is a huge deal for Khorne, who had almost no way  (only answer was Unfettered Fury command ability) of handling shooting/magic heavy matchups. This is an answer to that and a massive deal.

Also, there is a super strong hint that the army is being redesigned. Look at the last sentence written about the Blood Tithe reward:

That automatic 5+ ward really confused me until I remembered y'all have no real answer for shooting and magic. hopefully the new changes help!!

[Black_Templar_Lad]

New plastic TK. And plastic Bretonnians, what.a.time.to.be.alive!

And a preview to look forward to. Let's just go la. 

[DinoJon]

39 minutes ago, Elbaf said:

Valrak just said in a live stream that Adepticon will show us a Cities of Sigmar boxset, he looked pretty damn sure about that

I mostly trust him for 40K but if that's true it would change of the Seraphon reveals, it would be kind of strange

Was it from a livestream or one of the youtube vids?

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

47 minutes ago, Elbaf said:

Valrak just said in a live stream that Adepticon will show us a Cities of Sigmar boxset, he looked pretty damn sure about that

I mostly trust him for 40K but if that's true it would change of the Seraphon reveals, it would be kind of strange

Soulblight and OBR battletomes, plastic Tomb Kings and now possibly a CoS box set? Looks like I won't have any money for the foreseeable future. Why do they have to update all armies I play at once?

[Elbaf]

13 minutes ago, DinoJon said:

Was it from a livestream or one of the youtube vids?

From today livestream

I would be really surprised if CoS are already here, the thing is, he rarely talk about AoS, but he was really sure about that point

I will have to wait a week to see if that's true or not, but if it is, then we would have a new source of rumors

[Goatforce]

58 minutes ago, Elbaf said:

Valrak just said in a live stream that Adepticon will show us a Cities of Sigmar boxset, he looked pretty damn sure about that

I mostly trust him for 40K but if that's true it would change of the Seraphon reveals, it would be kind of strange

I just found that... idk, that just seems way out of left field. I wonder if he's getting mixed up with Seraphon? I just don't see them showing that when we have not seen any full models and we still have a major refresh to go.

[CDM]

2 hours ago, DinoJon said:

Oh @KingBrodd master of positivity, assure me that Seraphon will be out before 10th edition. 

 

Also Lustria supplement comes out this week and physical book for pre-order. Looks like I got some reading ahead. 

Any news on the Ulfenkarn AoS one?

[Clan's Cynic]

Chaos Dwarfs trailer for Total War tomorrow or Thursday it's looking like.

[Draznak]

1 hour ago, Elbaf said:

Valrak just said in a live stream that Adepticon will show us a Cities of Sigmar boxset, he looked pretty damn sure about that

I mostly trust him for 40K but if that's true it would change of the Seraphon reveals, it would be kind of strange

 

Whaaat !?

If he's right, I'll raise a statue to him, to be placed in Sigmar's pantheon. If he's wrong, I buy a fully painted Imperial Fist army, burn it, and send him the video.

[Bosskelot]

47 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

Yeah we'll see if their Total war popularity transfers to real sales... I can say that if this is the launch matchup for TOW I'm out for sure. There were valid reasons why neither army could keep enough interest when WHF was around. I could see TK being the simpler army to paint for new players, but Bretonnia certainly isn't. And gameplay wise I don't remember either army being very starter friendly, ESPECIALLY if Line-of-sight and charging angles are coming back.

 

That automatic 5+ ward really confused me until I remembered y'all have no real answer for shooting and magic. hopefully the new changes help!!

If anything I'm coming round to the idea of TK v Brets being a good choice for starter set factions, precisely because they sold poorly initially.

This means that very few people actually have armies of them. If they were to do Empire v Greenskins, or High Elves v Greenskins/Skaven/whatever... well the issue is all the old WHFB players already have those armies. There's less incentive for them to buy into a box like that. And look, if people still exist who are into WHFB they have already moved on to playing other systems with their collections. They already play T9A, KoW or 6th/7th/8th still. They don't really need a return of WHFB from a rules perspective outside of maybe re-uniting the disparate playerbase; what they are interested in is new and ongoing model support.

TOW wants to capture a new playerbase sure, but it also needs the veterans on board and supportive too and if they can do that by getting those older players to be buying GW again then surely they'll go in that direction.

Remember the issue with Tomb Kings is that they had their refreshed range come out at a time when WHFB, and indeed most of GW's sales, were just cratering. This was fully into the bad era of Kirby with horrible business decisions, ****** rules, little effort put into capturing and retaining players, very little model support for things outside of space marines (remember 40k during this time wasn't doing well either) and the LOTR bubble had properly burst which had thrown all of their finances into chaos. There really is nothing inherently bad about TK as a faction; they certainly have a lot more inherent strengths than their spiritual successors the Ossiarchs, but they came out with amazing new models for them which were all completely useless in-game and the core model range of the faction already looked really outdated and bad even though at that point it was maybe only like 10 years old. That's why it didn't sell.

As for Brets they literally had their 6th edition release in like 2002 or 2003 and then that was it. They didn't even get army books in 7th and 8th. This can't be blamed on sales either as for a long period of time the GW design studio was basically directionless and made what it wanted to make; nobody there really had any desire to keep working on or updating Bretonnians past the early 00's.

[Black_Templar_Lad]

25 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Chaos Dwarfs trailer for Total War tomorrow or Thursday it's looking like.

Annnnd the cherry on top for today.