Painted by G Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 33 minutes ago, hobgoblinclub said: Exactly the point I was trying to make. He proved that if something is convincing, people will be believe it. We have no reason not to, unless talented people start posting convincing fakes just for...kicks...oh. The whole thing seems pretty self-indulgent to me. It's clearly self promotion with an apology at the end. What did it achieve other than tricking people into discussing his artwork? That could have been done, without misleading everyone, by posting a thread. It no doubt would have a got a very positive reaction rather than the mixed response we see this morning. I think it's self promotion. Wants a job at GW. He's made a hell of a name for himself with this, weather that'll help or hinder his ambition is a gamble.. There's no way he'd have got this exposure just posting fan art in a blog. Lots probably do that and and I haven't seen any of it. If he'd done the box mockup and said it was fan made somewhere, it would have still probably hit all the rumour mills anyway and he'd be morally in the clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 So I just read a comment on another site that claims the destruction army bundle is Ironjawz. 10 x brutes 3x gruntas 1x shaman 1x megaboss AND..... 1 x gargant.... Being able to take a gargant wilst retaining Ironjawz allegiance!?... yes plz. Anyone confirm this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohojoe Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 34 minutes ago, Vasshpit said: So I just read a comment on another site that claims the destruction army bundle is Ironjawz. 10 x brutes 3x gruntas 1x shaman 1x megaboss AND..... 1 x gargant.... Being able to take a gargant wilst retaining Ironjawz allegiance!?... yes plz. Anyone confirm this? God I hope that is correct! Gargant is hands down my favourite model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 The Black Orc Big Mob had a gargantuan in it, so would make sense for a new formation in the box - but would suck if it doesn't get points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Nico said: The Black Orc Big Mob had a gargantuan in it, so would make sense for a new formation in the box - but would suck if it doesn't get points. Has any 'in a box' formation received points? As a new owner of an Icewind Assault box can I request that formation gets points? It's terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I hope it gets points if it even gets a battalion. Would seem silly not to. Beastclaw have one to add gruntas sooo why couldn't Ironjawz get a gar8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 First, I find the rumors of what boxes are being made to be stupid as hell. They have 4 Grand Alliances, but they ignore one to give the one that doesn't need more support a second box, because it "sells better" (well no duh it will sell better when it gets the most support! Haven't they learned that yet?). But anyways, to my knowledge no battalion in a boxed set has come with points, and as well know if it doesn't have points it might as well not exist. I have no reason to expect this to be any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Didn't the FEC King Varsuvius box come with one? All the Start Collecting do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, wayniac said: First, I find the rumors of what boxes are being made to be stupid as hell. They have 4 Grand Alliances, but they ignore one to give the one that doesn't need more support a second box, because it "sells better" (well no duh it will sell better when it gets the most support! Haven't they learned that yet?). But anyways, to my knowledge no battalion in a boxed set has come with points, and as well know if it doesn't have points it might as well not exist. I have no reason to expect this to be any different. Be patient my friend. Death comes for us all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, Dez said: Didn't the FEC King Varsuvius box come with one? All the Start Collecting do. It doesn't have points, so cannot be used in Matched Play, so it may as well not exist. Edited November 15, 2016 by wayniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I agree with your critics. No support - no interest - no sells. If they make dozens of factions they all should be supported. I for sure don't want AoS to follow 40k with their Space Marines obsession. It must be just boring to see 30% of people to play almost identical armies. Hope they don't go the same with Stormcasts. On the other hand I'm pretty happy with Sylvaneth premium box wich for sure is my Christmass gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Quote Has any 'in a box' formation received points? None of them have done sadly. Really bad for Death. It would be nice if they went through the campaign books and pointed the sensible battalions (not Brotherhood of the Great Bolts or Hammer and Anvil). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Have fun. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/11/leaked-images-of-premium-start.html?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuntymike Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 The 22 minutes ago, Aryann said: Have fun. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/11/leaked-images-of-premium-start.html?m=1 The bloodbound one seems identical to the one they released last year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malin Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, stuntymike said: The The bloodbound one seems identical to the one they released last year... It is identical, bought it few months back, hoped for something different this time around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuntymike Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, Malin said: It is identical, bought it few months back, hoped for something different this time around I'd be a little suprised if they don't change it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 The new set does seem to be identical which is interesting as the old one was £125 and the new one will be £100 apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Still seems pretty lackluster to me. Classic GW move, which is saddening as it appears they still haven't learned that if you only support a fraction of your armies with constant releases, those will of course be the top sellers, which results in you supporting them even more, rinse and repeat. On the flip side, if you support the ones that don't get any love with updated rules and boxes, maybe people will think you're supporting them and actually buy them. I sometimes think GW is too scared to take actual risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 43 minutes ago, Malin said: It is identical, bought it few months back, hoped for something different this time around Wasn't the last Khorne set the Deamon one? It was very similar 6 minutes ago, wayniac said: Still seems pretty lackluster to me. Classic GW move, which is saddening as it appears they still haven't learned that if you only support a fraction of your armies with constant releases, those will of course be the top sellers, which results in you supporting them even more, rinse and repeat. On the flip side, if you support the ones that don't get any love with updated rules and boxes, maybe people will think you're supporting them and actually buy them. I sometimes think GW is too scared to take actual risks. I think we can give GW some slack as the stuff we have seen this year from them is phenomenal! They've show to have been taking risks with the releases we have seen this year, opening up on social media, bringing back the Grand Tournaments and live streaming games from the Warlords event. Then there's all the cool models and stuff they have done. I understand what you are saying but at the end of the day, they have a massive amount of product ranges so need to consolidate those down to a few boxes for that last minute christmas sales rush. I'm hoping they will do some web deals or something as well on the back of this but I'm not holding my breath. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Kinda dissapointed that neither Death nor Fyreslayers got anything. GW better give Death some new toys next year. And give the Fyreslayers... something. 1-year anniversary Start Collecting set maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barimbino Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 18 minutes ago, Darth Alec said: Kinda dissapointed that neither Death nor Fyreslayers got anything. GW better give Death some new toys next year. And give the Fyreslayers... something. 1-year anniversary Start Collecting set maybe? I would guess this is them testing the waters to see if sets like this would sell, much like the start collecting boxes. If they sell well I wouldn't be surprised to see another release later on in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Let's not beat around the bush - this is a high saving box designed for people to put on a Christmas list from their nearest and dearest I'm interested that the Ad Mech box is a really weird mix of models, clearly intended to be used alongside the SC: Skitarri box and likely with a new combined-formation in... Agree with the general concensus that the Bloodbound set is a little lack-lustre, very similar to the SC box too. That said we've not seen pictures yet so this might not be 100% correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Ironjawz is the only one that has something out out of allegiance or am I mistaken. Hopeful that this means points cost for using a gargant with ironjawz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barimbino Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 For the SE it says Dracoth riders, do we think this is 2 or 4? I would say 4 but without picture I guess we will have to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I saw them in GW today and can confirm the Sylvaneth one is right. We worked out the Stormcast one had the biggest saving of a £100 odd. I recall 2 dracoth riders not 4 but they are a little bit obscured on the box cover (at the back). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.