Zamik Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, amysrevenge said: Yeah, I'm not claiming a shift in my opinions on a Like-Dislike axis. I'm still firmly on the Like side of that one. It's the Excitement-Apathy axis that I'm concerned about, and too much too soon, too long before the release date, has got me trending toward the Apathy side. Of course, it's definitely more the excitment-apathy axis, as you say. They could have a big reveal at UK Games Expo tomorrow, and the fever would be back on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I've got zero interest in warcry, I'm happy with skirmish and 1k battles. With forbidden power sigh why is the campaign book so bad for it. They should go back to Realmgate wars style 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I don't care warcry but the next narrative phase and new battletomes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, chord said: I've got zero interest in warcry, I'm happy with skirmish and 1k battles. With forbidden power sigh why is the campaign book so bad for it. They should go back to Realmgate wars style Same. although my attitude towards the game system could be different if the skaven just were one of the factions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I feel like I would have been more interested in Warcry if the released Warbands were not all different flavors of chaos marauders. like how Mordheim had Humans, Chaos worshipers, Skaven and Undead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzou Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, amysrevenge said: I suspect that by this point I'll watch Warcry come and go without making any effort to collect the funds to buy it - which would NOT have been true a month or so ago. Unless news has come out since then that dissuaded you from buying it, isn't that just a personal issue? If something is worth buying, something is worth buying. Otherwise we are just letting ourselves get manipulated by rushed advertising schemes... Edited May 30, 2019 by Zanzou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 prediction for UK Toy Expo Battletome Gutbuster or Wanderers maybe a hint of what on earth is the next death tome going to be (maybe model reveal) Codex Space marine something for the Specialist game like a new bloodbowl team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, novakai said: prediction for UK Toy Expo Battletome Gutbuster or Wanderers maybe a hint of what on earth is the next death tome going to be (maybe model reveal) Codex Space marine something for the Specialist game like a new bloodbowl team Gutbusters I can see it. Or Aelves / Seraphon / Bonespliterz A hint of something else like the Death entity yeah. Space Marines i.e. Primaris Vanguard ? For SG, maybe that Necromunda Enforcer Gang ? I really hope for Slaves to Darkness (not counting the new Warcry gang) personally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethefish Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Whitefang said: I don't care warcry but the next narrative phase and new battletomes War Cry IS the next narrative phase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alghero81 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I get your feeling @amysrevenge but disagree with the conclusion. I got excited by a new skirmish game, they lost me when they said Chaos only, got me again when they said rules for other allegiances, excited me with the first warbands, lost me with time... now they just need to give me some really solid rules, a fun game and a close date of release and I’ll be there on day 1... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Zanzou said: letting ourselves get manipulated by rushed advertising schemes... Not joking, this is the GW business model. FOMO*, impulse purchases, ooh this is cool gonna grab it. Their business model is not based on the sober deliberation of serious customers. *fear of missing out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, mikethefish said: War Cry IS the next narrative phase What makes you think so ? I mean, it's a game about Chaos gangs fighting for Archaon. We know is will strike back at Nagash and Sigmar. But there is also Slaanesh, the end of the Soul Wars, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, mikethefish said: War Cry IS the next narrative phase I don't believe so...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethefish Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said: What makes you think so ? I mean, it's a game about Chaos gangs fighting for Archaon. We know is will strike back at Nagash and Sigmar. But there is also Slaanesh, the end of the Soul Wars, etc. Archeon is looking for the best warriors to lead his armies for a massive push into the forces of Order. Pretty sure this qualifies as a big fracking deal. We saw the mirror is this when Kill Team was introduced. Before KT, nobody gave a care about this weird planet called "Vigillus". Now that place is the epicenter of the big 40k storyline. KT was the beginnings of this story arc. To me, it's clear that a similar thing will happen here. The War Cry story arc will set up something big later on Edited May 30, 2019 by mikethefish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) I highly doubt that gw will leave the old aelves in current separated state and also give them updates... that's just too much of work if they do so.... Edited May 30, 2019 by HammerOfSigmar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Mutton said: So in the end, we have Forbidden Power, which a grand swathe of players will have no interest in...we have Warcry, which looks dope, but we knew wasn't coming out for a hot little bit...and the delayed Sylvaneth book...so despite all of these teases and cool 'looking' things, it kind of feels like AoS itself hasn't had anything interesting to announce in awhile, unless you're into Slaanesh (in terms of AoS content that large groups of the player base would also be interested in). But, we do have contrast paints and the GHB next month, so hurrah! I think we will rapidly start getting some new teasers for AoS stuff. GW seems to have shuffled their release windows around before when events made them do so and I expect they will again if they feel that the customer base is not really liking their current roll-out strategy. My guess is that we will probably soon see GW shuffle another army release of book + scenery into the mix. I would not be surprised to see something pop up that feels almost like it comes from left-field, such as Bonesplitterz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, HammerOfSigmar said: I highly doubt that gw will leave the old aelves in current separated state and also give them updates... that's just too much of work if they do so.... I am not sure if they are going to put them all together into one book though. I still think they going to at least separate them by Wanderers (Wood Elves), Highborn (High Elves), and Exile (Dark Elves) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, amysrevenge said: Not joking, this is the GW business model. FOMO*, impulse purchases, ooh this is cool gonna grab it. Their business model is not based on the sober deliberation of serious customers. *fear of missing out A long time ago I made the very sober decision to purchase every goblin, squig, troll, and giant model GW makes -and much of what 3rd parties make also (still need the Heresy giant though...). Time has proven this to have been a great decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, novakai said: I am not sure if they are going to put them all together into one book though. I still think they going to at least separate them by Wanderers (Wood Elves), Highborn (High Elves), and Exile (Dark Elves) I am not sold that they will make a ton of elf factions - especially given that they already have a bunch with AoS battletomes. This is Age of Sigmar and not Age of Elves. I don't mind having a few elf factions but we don't need more elf books than Chaos factions - especially if they are not at least going to do interesting stuff like integrate them into other grand alliances. They need to do something with the legacy forces, but I hope it falls more into the reimagine & consolidate umbrella than split them all off into distinct forces. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzou Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Skabnoze said: I am not sold that they will make a ton of elf factions - especially given that they already have a bunch with AoS battletomes. This is Age of Sigmar and not Age of Elves. As an aelf fan I unfortunately agree. I just wish that GW would actually clean it up and support them. They don't all have to be stars of the show. They could have made the next Sylvaneth battletome include wanderers. Or they could have made a mega tome like the Skaven. However, Skaven at least had had a battletome beforehand. Unfortunately ALL OG elf owners have gotten almost no support from the beginning and I have no idea why they have left it this long. We'll see if GW finally sees the light. Edited May 30, 2019 by Zanzou 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 It will be interesting to see what GW ultimately does with Aelves. I think it's pretty likely that we'll eventually see High/Dark Aelf stragglers largely absorbed by their new factions when they finally come out. Wanderers are the real mystery. There seems to be no movement towards putting them back with Sylvaneth, they aren't strongly associated with any of the other Aelf gods, and yet they're also among the only legacy Aelf factions that have GHB allegiance abilities and heavily repackaged kits. I feel like no matter what GW does with Wanderers it will be a surprise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Zanzou said: As an aelf fan I unfortunately agree. I just wish that GW would actually clean it up and support them. They don't all have to be stars of the show. They could have made the next Sylvaneth battletome include wanderers. Or they could have made a mega tome like the Skaven. However, Skaven at least had had a battletome beforehand. Unfortunately ALL OG elf owners have gotten almost no support from the beginning and I have no idea why they have left it this long. We'll see if GW finally sees the light. I agree completely that GW needs to do something with the old elves. I'll fully admit that I am on the whole an elf-hater and I always have been. Elves generally bore me in fantasy and always have with just a few exceptions. That said, I actually like all 3 of the elf factions that GW has created battletomes for in AoS. Sylvaneth are mainly fae nature/tree demons and have almost nothing elven left about them - other than the Tree Revenants. Daughters of Khaine are the only elves I liked in the old Warhammer world as I liked Witch Elves but not the rest of the Dark Elf faction. The new Daughters of Khaine leaned heavy into the greek aesthetic and pulled in Harpies, Naga, Medusa and I am fully on board with all of those things. And then the Idoneth have a mix of traditional elves with weird soulless deformed monster elves and then the whole undersea monsters thing - all great. And I fully support that not every army needs to be for everyone - and so whatever they do with old-school elves will probably not resonate with me. But in the end the old Elf players deserve good treatment for the stuff they enjoy - just like I was lucky enough to get from GW with Gloomspite. But I will say that I don't care for how many elf factions this may lead to - especially since we all expect something to happen with the forces from Malerion & Tyrion/Teclis. I hope that GW takes care of the legacy stuff before diving into too much new stuff, but I would really like to see them explore some human factions, dwarf, ogres, etc before just drowning us in a ton of different elves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eciu Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 So when was last actual AoS new "news" or actual release ? Seems those shipping/legal problems might be bigger than everyone initially thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, madmac said: Wanderers are the real mystery. There seems to be no movement towards putting them back with Sylvaneth, they aren't strongly associated with any of the other Aelf gods, and yet they're also among the only legacy Aelf factions that have GHB allegiance abilities and heavily repackaged kits. I feel like no matter what GW does with Wanderers it will be a surprise. Maybe they could just wander themselves out of the mortal realms and into oblivion... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, eciu said: So when was last actual AoS new "news" or actual release ? Seems those shipping/legal problems might be bigger than everyone initially thought. GHB is the coming up some time next month so there’s that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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