Gitzdee Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Dont think the Start Collecting set is coming back again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Hello darkness my old friend... 🥲 Edit: I think GsG are coming before BoC I'm expecting another battlebox and a simultaneous release of the two books. It will probably be like the Skaven and Sylvaneth release with one side getting more kits than the other. Edited December 15, 2022 by Chikout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Gitzdee said: Dont think the Start Collecting set is coming back again. Vanguards are the new SC, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Nezzhil said: Plastic kits are repacked, resin models are squatted. Maneaters would like to say a word on this 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, cyrus said: Maneaters would like to say a word on this 😅 They were squatted for months and more the half of the Maneaters are not back EDIT: Fatemaster didn't come back and it is in the Tzeentch book Edited December 15, 2022 by Nezzhil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I kind of miss having no available models for warscrolls. Just to see what stuff people come up with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Red Lines Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gitzdee said: I kind of miss having no available models for warscrolls. Just to see what stuff people come up with. It sucks though when they invalidate the warscroll after you've made a costly conversion. For instance everyone who wanted to run one of the most popular 6th edition builds for Dark Eldar had to convert a Baron Sathonyx. Then they removed him from the book! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: They were squatted for months and more the half of the Maneaters are not back Conspiracy Theory time: perhaps GW made new Maneaters, hence the reason the old ones disappeared, but then some higher up decided that should release them as part of CoS as someone calculated that's make them more money. When someone asked what they should do about Maneaters, as those were already in the Ogor Battletome and if they didn't have minis it'd open up third party companies to release them without the usual deniable names they decided to stick with the old ones, only to discover manufacturing was half way through destroying the moulde got them. Hence the reduced range. I mean, what else could explain keeping those awful finecast sculpts, but at the same time getting rid of the ninja and lady with rolling pin 😄 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, Gitzdee said: I kind of miss having no available models for warscrolls. Just to see what stuff people come up with. GW won't do that anymore, as they lost a court case over the right of third party companies to make minis with GW IP names for things with rules in the game but no GW model. It's why in 40k you have a bunch of space marine captains with highly specific wargear options: can a captain take a storm shield? Yes, but if he does he can't have a power fist because no model exists. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Templar_Lad Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 That rumour list sounds fantastic, I really hope it's true. Snarlfang Chariot and Gitmob Heroes would guarantee a full army from me. A load of chariots and riders with some Hobgrot footsoldiers, the Khanite shall live again! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 hours ago, cyrus said: Maneaters would like to say a word on this 😅 This was a unique case where they squatted all the individual skus and repacked three of them as a new sku. Even then, half the old maneaters are gone forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 The ogor book is still lumped with resin butchers, slaughtermasters, icebrow hunters, yhetees, sabretusks, and gorgers, so regardless of the maneater situation it's not the case the resin kits are being vanished when books hit 3.0 (unfortunately, given the quality of some of those old sculpts...) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bull Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Jagged Red Lines said: It sucks though when they invalidate the warscroll after you've made a costly conversion. For instance everyone who wanted to run one of the most popular 6th edition builds for Dark Eldar had to convert a Baron Sathonyx. Then they removed him from the book! and the Jetbike Archon before that! He was my favorite thing in 40k, from 3rd to 6th. One of my few conversions, mixed him with a Cold One Rider and some extra Dark Elf bits. Played that crazy guy for like 12 years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber SunStorm Posted December 15, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Black_Templar_Lad said: That rumour list sounds fantastic, I really hope it's true. Snarlfang Chariot and Gitmob Heroes would guarantee a full army from me. A load of chariots and riders with some Hobgrot footsoldiers, the Khanite shall live again! Same, this is what I've been waiting for since the 3 gitmob they did for WHU. Would be a day one purchase for me, assuming it's all real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoJon Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Kitsumy said: plastic kroxis.......... cant ask for more. new salamanders would be the cherry on top. if that giant dino is a brachiosaurus/diplodocus?? insta buy. but yes, we really need a plastic slan first My fellow lizard in arms! I'm very hopeful but that list looks way too good to be true. Edited December 15, 2022 by DinoJon 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, DinoJon said: but that list looks way too good to be true. Not if you're a Wanderer ☹️🌲🧝♂️ 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 6 hours ago, cyrus said: Maneaters would like to say a word on this 😅 Every time I see this models, I want to start ASAP an Ogor army... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Chikout said: I'm expecting another battlebox and a simultaneous release of the two books. It will probably be like the Skaven and Sylvaneth release with one side getting more kits than the other. As the side getting nothing I hope at least our book isn't as bland as Skaven. I'm fine not being a tournament army believe me but they really took the soul out of Skaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 hours ago, EntMan said: Not if you're a Wanderer ☹️🌲🧝♂️ While it is sad if the wanderers are being discontinued as they are wonderful models, I can see the logic behind it. The cities list currently has eternal guard, dreadspears and free guild spearmen all which are pretty much the same. It would make more sense to have one entry for a spear armed unit and then use whichever models you want. I bet on the lead up to the release of the new cities there will be a lot of articles showing converted armies and how versatile the army is. I only hope if they do discontinue them and other models we get enough notice. Ideally they will go range rotation rather than squated completely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ogregut said: While it is sad if the wanderers are being discontinued as they are wonderful models, I can see the logic behind it. The cities list currently has eternal guard, dreadspears and free guild spearmen all which are pretty much the same. It would make more sense to have one entry for a spear armed unit and then use whichever models you want. I bet on the lead up to the release of the new cities there will be a lot of articles showing converted armies and how versatile the army is. I only hope if they do discontinue them and other models we get enough notice. Ideally they will go range rotation rather than squated completely. Not to sound negative but GW isnt going to encourage us to continue using discontinued models as proxies. The one spear entry will be "copyrightus longpointstickdawnmayne with this exact wargear down to the feathers in their caps" The notice will be an overnight move of the entire range to last chance to buy and then they'll pretend they definitely never painted them right into the narrative reboxed them in AoS boxes and actively sold them to people. Wood elves and sylvaneth never should have been split up in the first place but they wanted more micro armies. Theres no reason they couldnt be like every god marked chaos army where you can focus on mortals or "demons" or mix and match and I dont give GW any slack for being in a tough situation that they created with corporate decision making. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Ogregut said: Ideally they will go range rotation rather than squated completely. Well at least now we know that squatted just means gone temporarily (just wait 30 years) I was hoping that recent Wanderer novel meant they were safe. Alas not, if the rumour is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 42 minutes ago, The Red King said: Not to sound negative but GW isnt going to encourage us to continue using discontinued models as proxies. The one spear entry will be "copyrightus longpointstickdawnmayne with this exact wargear down to the feathers in their caps" The notice will be an overnight move of the entire range to last chance to buy and then they'll pretend they definitely never painted them right into the narrative reboxed them in AoS boxes and actively sold them to people. Wood elves and sylvaneth never should have been split up in the first place but they wanted more micro armies. Theres no reason they couldnt be like every god marked chaos army where you can focus on mortals or "demons" or mix and match and I dont give GW any slack for being in a tough situation that they created with corporate decision making. But they do encourage people to convert and use proxie models, just this week the stormcast army they showed had mixed races in a unit. They have also have shown discontinued models in army's on the community site. And since when do people need GWs permission to use what models they want for their own armies? I'm more optimistic and hope GW have learnt and we will get more notice tho I'm also realistic and will be picking up a few of boxes of wanderers stuff as I've wanted to do a living city for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ogregut said: But they do encourage people to convert and use proxie models, just this week the stormcast army they showed had mixed races in a unit. They have also have shown discontinued models in army's on the community site. And since when do people need GWs permission to use what models they want for their own armies? I'm more optimistic and hope GW have learnt and we will get more notice tho I'm also realistic and will be picking up a few of boxes of wanderers stuff as I've wanted to do a living city for a while. I haven't seen "last chance to buy" used for such a long time. I think if anything they are giving less notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, EntMan said: I haven't seen "last chance to buy" used for such a long time. I think if anything they are giving less notice. What's been discontinued lately? The last thing I can think of is the branchwraith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Ogregut said: What's been discontinued lately? The last thing I can think of is the branchwraith. Branchwraith is still available. Just doesn't have rules anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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