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8 minutes ago, Joseph Mackay said:

Don’t you need Vanguard Raptors for the Aetherwings to do their charge phase move?

I don't think I'd need to move them to block opponents in the opponents' charge phases. They'd be everywhere.

But yeah, that could be the next stage, when I don't want anyone to play me at all ever :D

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I've always thought Stormcast would be an interesting army for an animal theme. There are already lion/eagle/dragon motifs throughout, which could easily be turned into their own things. It would only take a little conversion and addition of 1-2 more animals. Maybe some bear or wolf helmets on a squad. Could even use different models as the base (like khorne reavers or tzeentch acolytes who are more naked) to play up the wildness of it....

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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer 
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Lord-Relictor (110)*
- General
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Universal Spell Lore: Levitate
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Azyros (110)*
- Artefact: God-forged Blade
Yndrasta the Celestial Spear (300)*

Battleline
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers

Units
3 x Aetherwings (45)
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
4 x Desolators (410)**
- Reinforced x 1

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 98
Drops: 10

What do you think about it?

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23 minutes ago, Nizrah said:

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer 
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Lord-Relictor (110)*
- General
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Universal Spell Lore: Levitate
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Azyros (110)*
- Artefact: God-forged Blade
Yndrasta the Celestial Spear (300)*

Battleline
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers

Units
3 x Aetherwings (45)
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
4 x Desolators (410)**
- Reinforced x 1

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 98
Drops: 10

What do you think about it?

Not sure about Yndrasta im not seeing her being worth 300 points in this list. 
i do like the translocation desolators but could be even better with concussors/fulminators + heraldor.
i would be tempted to switch yndrasa out for something like upgrade desolators, take heraldor, take max units aetherwings to block/zone/easy acces to some battletactics
Rest looks super solid

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57 minutes ago, Nizrah said:

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer 
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Lord-Relictor (110)*
- General
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Universal Spell Lore: Levitate
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Azyros (110)*
- Artefact: God-forged Blade
Yndrasta the Celestial Spear (300)*

Battleline
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers

Units
3 x Aetherwings (45)
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
4 x Desolators (410)**
- Reinforced x 1

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 98
Drops: 10

What do you think about it?

I agree that Yndrasta is eating up too many points here for too little return. IMHO a Tauralon with amulet of destiny is superior; otherwise I feel that you need more Aetherwings.

Also I rate fulminators and concussors over Desolators.

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5 hours ago, Nizrah said:

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer 
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Lord-Relictor (110)*
- General
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Universal Spell Lore: Levitate
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Azyros (110)*
- Artefact: God-forged Blade
Yndrasta the Celestial Spear (300)*

Battleline
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)*
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (95)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers

Units
3 x Aetherwings (45)
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (370)**
- Reinforced x 1
4 x Desolators (410)**
- Reinforced x 1

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 98
Drops: 10

What do you think about it?

i like it, i made something similar. Dropped Yndrasta (she aint competitive) , dropped one vanguard raptor block for two annhilator blocks. Brought in a lord imperatant for a free CP usage and an incantor

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/12/build-all-dragon-armies-and-other-fierce-forces-with-the-new-stormcast-eternals-battletome/

Hammers of Sigmar make Dracothian Guard Battleline.

Knights Excelsior make Annihilators and Paladins Battleline. Looks like the wrong rules image has been included currently, but will offer 'An extra boost to hit and wound rolls'

Astral Templars make Palladors and Hunters Battleline. Astral Templar units can't be picked for monstrous rampages. 

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Very interesting to see if the other stormhosts open up other battleline options.

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This is it boys and girls, the golden age.

Battleline conditionals:

Annihalators, paladins, palladors, hunters, Dracothian guard etc

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/12/build-all-dragon-armies-and-other-fierce-forces-with-the-new-stormcast-eternals-battletome/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Article&utm_campaign=AOS:+Best+ways+to+expand+your+Orruk+and+SC+armies,+with+refernce+to+the+new+battletomes+part+1

Separately SoB get special core battalions. We'll get a ton.

It could be very nice indeed in September.

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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Knights Excelsior
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:
Lord Imperatant (160)
Lord-Relictor (110)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)

Total: 1980 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 93
Drops: 11


I can't believe they'll allow this kind of thing. Ofc points and maybe min numbers will change.
I'd love it. It'd be like the Ride of the Rohirrim but giant fat armoured warriors smashing about.
 
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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Knights Excelsior
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:
Lord Imperatant (160)
Lord-Relictor (110)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)

Total: 1960 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 123
Drops: 17

 
...Maybe I should only take units that begin with A, like Aventis as leader
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Omg I love everything about it so far. I can play an all flying army, I can play an Dragons and Dracoths army, I cann play the storm of the Paladins and everything in between. Love it love it love it :D Please just let the book be good and STAY good even after the next releases ^^

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7 minutes ago, Turragor said:
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Knights Excelsior
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:
Lord Imperatant (160)
Lord-Relictor (110)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)

Total: 1980 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 93
Drops: 11


I can't believe they'll allow this kind of thing. Ofc points and maybe min numbers will change.
I'd love it. It'd be like the Ride of the Rohirrim but giant fat armoured warriors smashing about.
 
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Wait...
 
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Knights Excelsior
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:
Lord Imperatant (160)
Lord-Relictor (110)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)

Total: 1960 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 123
Drops: 17

 
...Maybe I should only take units that begin with A, like Aventis as leader

Where we’re going we don’t need Translocation

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Grand Strategy: Dominating Presence
- Triumphs: Inspired
Lord Imperatant (160)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Annihilators (190)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)
3 x Aetherwings (45)

Total: 1995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 121
Drops: 16

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if they do this stuff like

Hammers - dracoths battleline
Knights Excelsior-  Non evo paladins battleline
Astral Templars - Hunters and palladrs battleline

I wonder what the rest would be

Tempest lords - prosecutors battleline
Anvils - ??
Celestial Warbringers - ?? ( something with sanc)
Celestial Vindicators - ??

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13 minutes ago, Juicy said:

if they do this stuff like

Hammers - dracoths battleline
Knights Excelsior-  Non evo paladins battleline
Astral Templars - Hunters and palladrs battleline

I wonder what the rest would be

Tempest lords - prosecutors battleline
Anvils - ??
Celestial Warbringers - ?? ( something with sanc)
Celestial Vindicators - ??

Battleline Evocators is the only way they could top this 

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3 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said:

Battleline Evocators is the only way they could top this 

I'm curious to see how they could make this possible without breaking the game (AKA full evocator list...etc).
Maybe there's something similar to what they did with the lumineth battletome.

For each sequitor unit you take a unit of evocator becomes battleline for example

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2 minutes ago, jeanfluflu said:

I'm curious to see how they could make this possible without breaking the game (AKA full evocator list...etc).
Maybe there's something similar to what they did with the lumineth battletome.

For each sequitor unit you take a unit of evocator becomes battleline for example

They can just make evocators worse. 

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6 minutes ago, jeanfluflu said:

I'm curious to see how they could make this possible without breaking the game (AKA full evocator list...etc).
Maybe there's something similar to what they did with the lumineth battletome.

For each sequitor unit you take a unit of evocator becomes battleline for example

No way to auto charge from Scions would do it.

Models on the board are exposed, vulnerable and constricted by their Move value

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I'm also thinking, with all those units getting to hit on 2+ and all (paladins, in knight excelsior...etc) what will hapen to our knight azyros do you think?

You took this dude to reroll hit rolls of one and that's basically it, raptors loved him.

But it seems that GW want to remove all the reroll aspects of the game or at least makes them quite minimal or reserved to legendary heroes.

Any thoughts?

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