jeanfluflu Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 What do we know about the sigmarite shields update? Do you think it will stay in the new book as it is right now in the FAQ? Also do you think we're going to have bonuses like "reduce the damage by one with a minimum of 1" for some tanky units (thinking about the dragon units because in our current battletome all the drake or dragon artifacts converge into the solidity of these beast (drakescale armor...Etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkayestDM Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, jeanfluflu said: What do we know about the sigmarite shields update? Do you think it will stay in the new book as it is right now in the FAQ? Also do you think we're going to have bonuses like "reduce the damage by one with a minimum of 1" for some tanky units (thinking about the dragon units because in our current battletome all the drake or dragon artifacts converge into the solidity of these beast (drakescale armor...Etc). I'd much rather the shields just boost a unit's save by 1, but they might go the -1 rend rout because it's easier to make that work with save bonuses, and to balance it with paired weapon options and such. I'd be very happy if drakes got the -1 Damage bonus. It wouldn't be a huge buff, there's plenty of units or models that only deal 1 damage, but it would still give them a respectable boost, especially against heroes or other monsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestantpants Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Geez....is this battletome actually going up for pre order this month? Next weekend is the last chance for that, it seems weird that they haven't announced it by now you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Celestantpants said: Geez....is this battletome actually going up for pre order this month? Next weekend is the last chance for that, it seems weird that they haven't announced it by now you know? No it isn’t. No new date announced. Articles have been edited to remove all reference. Delayed indefinitely. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare2 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 They're taking the mick now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, PrimeElectrid said: No it isn’t. No new date announced. Articles have been edited to remove all reference. Delayed indefinitely. i did hear rumours about October , i had hoped they werent true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lengthster Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Man I forgave the barebones FAQ - Translocation broken, Yndrasta + Praetors interaction not cleared up, Lord Arcanum's prime electrids also broken, no clarification on Blaze of Glory, no meaningful points changes - thinking that the new tome was right around the corner, but no, things have been broken for months now and the tome is still weeks away. It's just been really annoying. I can't paint anything for my army or put effort into listbuilding knowing it could all be for naught. On the optimistic side, I'm really excited to see how the rules for the knight judicator and vigilor turn out. Knight Judicator general, Vigilor batteline, castigators, lord-ordinator and ballistae, I can't wait to lose all my friends. I also really wanna see how Gryph-Hounds end up because I love those little buggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkayestDM Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Lengthster said: I also really wanna see how Gryph-Hounds end up because I love those little buggers. Knowing that Griff-chargers can be made into battleline under the right circumstances, we could legitimately build a list that is all gryph-critters (chargers, hounds, chariot, Lord-Aquilor, Lord-Arcanum.) It might not be any good, but it'll sure be fun! (I've got an entirely unreasonable number of gryph-hounds on standby, just waiting for an excuse to flood the game-board!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champasaur Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Really disappointed to hear about these delays. I've been waiting since Dominion release to start painting my miniatures, and each delay is more time that I won't get to start playing at my local GS. My hype is definitely dying down and has been since we started getting all of the filler articles on WarCom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood0Tiger Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Champasaur said: Really disappointed to hear about these delays. I've been waiting since Dominion release to start painting my miniatures, and each delay is more time that I won't get to start playing at my local GS. My hype is definitely dying down and has been since we started getting all of the filler articles on WarCom. Might I suggest looking at this if you are interested? feel free to use it as you wish and modify it. Any critique and comments about it are welcome, even if you hate it more than Vanguard Hunters. Not a replacement, just a WIP open for opinions. https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/29456-homebrew-army-stormcast-exalted-totally-not-another-remake-project/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Lengthster said: Man I forgave the barebones FAQ - Translocation broken, Yndrasta + Praetors interaction not cleared up, Lord Arcanum's prime electrids also broken, no clarification on Blaze of Glory, no meaningful points changes - thinking that the new tome was right around the corner, but no, things have been broken for months now and the tome is still weeks away. It's just been really annoying. I can't paint anything for my army or put effort into listbuilding knowing it could all be for naught. On the optimistic side, I'm really excited to see how the rules for the knight judicator and vigilor turn out. Knight Judicator general, Vigilor batteline, castigators, lord-ordinator and ballistae, I can't wait to lose all my friends. I also really wanna see how Gryph-Hounds end up because I love those little buggers. I generally agree, but prime electrids seems fine. It just says instead of 1 , you do d3. So it means you dont have to be within 3 to do d3, it does it at range, d6 if you roll well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lengthster Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, jhamslam said: I generally agree, but prime electrids seems fine. It just says instead of 1 , you do d3. So it means you dont have to be within 3 to do d3, it does it at range, d6 if you roll well Yeah that's how I've been playing it, just feels weird. I like that arcane bolt is now a lot better for combat wizards, but it's funny how a Stormcast wizard that specialises in shooting arcane bolts doesn't get any bonuses for being in combat range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood0Tiger Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, Lengthster said: Yeah that's how I've been playing it, just feels weird. I like that arcane bolt is now a lot better for combat wizards, but it's funny how a Stormcast wizard that specialises in shooting arcane bolts doesn't get any bonuses for being in combat range. Yeah I agree, a lot of odd/off role purposes they intended and it cascades from there. Summarizes 3.0 in my recent game especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scurvydog Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, Lengthster said: Yeah that's how I've been playing it, just feels weird. I like that arcane bolt is now a lot better for combat wizards, but it's funny how a Stormcast wizard that specialises in shooting arcane bolts doesn't get any bonuses for being in combat range. They did not care with that FAQ, the book should have been out long ago, but they keep mucking up the app and then holds the books back. But the prime electrids is the least of the problems. At this point I wouldnt expect the book to land before October, seems they are having big issues with the app+battletome codes. 40k stuff works fine to release though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xking Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/16/2021 at 8:51 AM, PJetski said: Dragons! What we know so far: Our 3rd edition update comes with tons of new models and warscrolls Old warscrolls and allegiance abilities are getting revamped Loads more battleline choices Hammers of Sigmar gets battleline Dracothian Guard Sequitors battleline without a Lord-Arcanum general Vanquishers are battleline Knights Excelsior get battleline "Paladins" A Knight-Draconis general makes Stormdrake Guard battleline Palladors and Hunters can become battleline (not 100% confirmed if its locked behind general or stormhost) Knights Excelsior get bonuses for playing PALADIN units Astral Templars still focused on anti-MONSTER tactics Stormkeeps are still a thing and seem really good for defensive play https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/29/the-stormcast-eternals-become-the-ultimate-defenders-of-the-mortal-realms-in-their-best-battletome-yet/ Staunch Defender completely redesigned Vanguard-Hunters shooting is now 12" range and gain Rend-1 on melee and combat, but are less accurate Dracoths are 6 wounds and Rend-2 on all their attacks, but maybe lost their missile weapon The new Dragon Princes are Unique and look pretty strong https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/10/magic-and-mayhem-the-dragon-princes-rules-make-them-a-ruinous-tag-team-in-battle/ Battletome preorder was stated to be in August, so it must be coming Aug 28 and released on Sep 4. Once the battletome is officially previewed on Youtube I will make separate threads for discussions on each Stormhost. I also plan on making a "Why Play Stormcast? Pros and Cons" type of post to help introduce new players to the faction Where did the Vanguard Hunter information come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xking Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Praetors are the stormcast bodyguards? Do they have a special ability that allows them to protect stormcast Heroes? And does it work on any stormcast hero, not just the new ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, xking said: Praetors are the stormcast bodyguards? Do they have a special ability that allows them to protect stormcast Heroes? And does it work on any stormcast hero, not just the new ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare2 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, xking said: Where did the Vanguard Hunter information come from? There were images online of the information included in the new boxes for them. It's limited info though (just stat-lines) and we're none the wiser regarding abilities. Edited to add image. Edited August 23, 2021 by lare2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I wonder if the annihilator kit will allow an „easy“ conversion like the one in the video where he bashes his shield in the orc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xking Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, lare2 said: There were images online of the information included in the new boxes for them. It's limited info though (just stat-lines) and we're none the wiser regarding abilities. Edited to add image. One Damage is BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfyre Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 They're standard infantry, why would they be any more than damage 1? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarii Orientalis Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, xking said: One Damage is BS. I suppose you would be surprised to know that this is a MASSIVELY improved version of current Vanguard-Hunters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maephi Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sagittarii Orientalis said: I suppose you would be surprised to know that this is a MASSIVELY improved version of current Vanguard-Hunters. Which makes me quite happy. I just built 30 of the guys today. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xking Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Starfyre said: They're standard infantry, why would they be any more than damage 1? It is my belief that every stormcast should have at least one damage 2 weapon. Also they are literally demigods, they are Beyond standard Infantry. But then again, I'm all about the lore. Edited August 23, 2021 by xking 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xking Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sagittarii Orientalis said: I suppose you would be surprised to know that this is a MASSIVELY improved version of current Vanguard-Hunters. It's hard for me to see the card. Anything interesting happen with their abilities, Beyond raw stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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