Crypt Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 5 hours ago, NotBeastmanBob said: Ive stuck a comment asking is this a plan for Commemorative minis going forward on the twitter/X. Hoping they can acknowledge and at least given some information/indication I thought they mentioned some special event models would in time be sold as made to order, i think it started with the primaris company champion. Also this so called rules post was just a summary of what was said on the video. That...thats disappointing. Edited March 25 by Crypt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 40 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said: The main reason I doubt BoC get squatted is because of how weird of a decision it would be- I could see Spiderfang, Gitmob, City Aelves/Duardin, who are subfactions of a much larger faction or maybe Bonesplittaz (Though they’re pushing it), but BoC are only in need of a refresh and a day in the sun. They’re a different narrative role from the Darkoath, who are “Slaves To Darkness Flavored Conan” and act as a dark reflection of the Cities of Sigmar, being “Natural Horror” and acting as a dark reflection of the Sylvaneth- Plus, assuming Chorfs get released, and S2D remains 1 Battletome, it would keep Chaos at a perfect 8 Tomes, a thematically perfect number. I agree with absolutley all of that. It's just that every rumor we have says to worry and so I am. I mean idk if Singapore Warhound had the indexes but even he gave a sad react to my question of beasts and we KNOW he's got access to something to take potato pics of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 40 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said: The main reason I doubt BoC get squatted is because of how weird of a decision it would be- I could see Spiderfang, Gitmob, City Aelves/Duardin, who are subfactions of a much larger faction or maybe Bonesplittaz (Though they’re pushing it), but BoC are only in need of a refresh and a day in the sun. They’re a different narrative role from the Darkoath, who are “Slaves To Darkness Flavored Conan” and act as a dark reflection of the Cities of Sigmar, being “Natural Horror” and acting as a dark reflection of the Sylvaneth- Plus, assuming Chorfs get released, and S2D remains 1 Battletome, it would keep Chaos at a perfect 8 Tomes, a thematically perfect number. I agree with absolutley all of that. It's just that every rumor we have says to worry and so I am. I mean idk if Singapore Warhound had the indexes but even he gave a sad react to my question of beasts and we KNOW he's got access to something to take potato pics of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmarusvult Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 6 minutes ago, The Red King said: I agree with absolutley all of that. It's just that every rumor we have says to worry and so I am. I mean idk if Singapore Warhound had the indexes but even he gave a sad react to my question of beasts and we KNOW he's got access to something to take potato pics of. It would be great to have it confirmed so people know what to do with their BoC armies. I was planning to buy and paint the vanguard box but I’m going to skip that until we know more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Flippy said: What does this mean? Like, seriously, balance? Flavour? Gameplay? I've very recently checked 40k rules (I haven't played this before) and everything looks rather elegant. Where's the mess? There were some pretty stark power differences between factions at the start (win rates as low as 30 and above 70 percent) and I believe a lot of armies lost a bunch of options they have had for a long time. The indexes were just notably lower quality than the previous codexes. IMO, AoS is in a good position to avoid most of that, though. Simply because the system has a lot less legacy rules it is lugging around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) Seems like this is going to be a dry desert for a while, so I'll go watch anime for a few weeks, quote me when rats. Edited March 25 by Garrac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosskelot Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Flippy said: What does this mean? Like, seriously, balance? Flavour? Gameplay? I've very recently checked 40k rules (I haven't played this before) and everything looks rather elegant. Where's the mess? Huge amounts of errata's needed (to the point where the physical cards they printed out have more errors on them than the past 2 editions worth of codexes combined), tons of unintended but broken combos of power such as a plethora of high damage weapons with devastating wounds, needing the designer commentary to actually understand and use the Fly rules properly, plenty of core rules just not tested at all, tons of characters who join units and either give that unit a duplicate effect or give it a bonus that actively clashes with their weapons (tons of characters give their unit Lethal Hits, but the unit itself has Dev Wound weapons, which are two conflicting rules), bland and poorly thought out bonuses and abilities with armies like Votaan being able to get +4 to hit despite the modifiers to hit capping out at -1 or +1. I could go on. Here is the 40k balance dataslate The amount of gigantic core rules changes is actually kind of crazy for a game not even a year old, and the index/codex changes are pretty gargantuan too. While it is good GW is willing to make those sorts of changes it also shows just what a complete disasterzone 10th was on release. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyantheFett Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 50 minutes ago, The Red King said: I agree with absolutley all of that. It's just that every rumor we have says to worry and so I am. I mean idk if Singapore Warhound had the indexes but even he gave a sad react to my question of beasts and we KNOW he's got access to something to take potato pics of. Ya all rumors point to a hard separation between Old World and AoS. Really seems like the first big sign either way is if Dwarfs stays in Cities or not. And with the Dwarfs release for Old World and 4.0 right there we should start getting answers soonish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 52 minutes ago, The Red King said: I agree with absolutley all of that. It's just that every rumor we have says to worry and so I am. I mean idk if Singapore Warhound had the indexes but even he gave a sad react to my question of beasts and we KNOW he's got access to something to take potato pics of. The indexes aren't physical books so 8 don't see how he couldn't have seen them. My guess is his sad react is that he doesn't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Just now, Ogregut said: The indexes aren't physical books so 8 don't see how he couldn't have seen them. My guess is his sad react is that he doesn't know. I am not with you. It is true that most of what he said seems to be coming from the big box or the big book inside the big box, buuuuut... he mentioned all the Skaven range refresh, so he has access to something else as well. Maybe the indexes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elarin Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 6 minutes ago, Elarin said: A decent amount of their range is still in-stock in the US, including their Vanguard and Tome. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCMistborn Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said: A decent amount of their range is still in-stock in the US, including their Vanguard and Tome. They are going to refresh the whole range but they will be reverse beastmen, and they will be goats with hands wearing pants. Edited March 25 by HCMistborn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungnisson Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Next update, 18th of May, it seems. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahrial Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, Grungnisson said: Next update, 18th of May, it seems. I believe we’ll definitely get updates well before then. That looks like a semi-closed soft release prior to the major release, where players and reviewers/streamers will get an opportunity to look at and “report back” for publicity and pre release hype. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 46 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: I am not with you. It is true that most of what he said seems to be coming from the big box or the big book inside the big box, buuuuut... he mentioned all the Skaven range refresh, so he has access to something else as well. Maybe the indexes. The updates to every faction will be available as downloads on release day, they won't be actual indexes/books. Yes, we saw some pages of either the big rulebook or promotional booklets but I can't see how he would have access to what is or isn't getting a faction pack on release day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danaork Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 26 minutes ago, Grungnisson said: Prochaine mise à jour, le 18 mai semble-t-il. Which update ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, Ragest said: Is abour lore, so a filler. To some the rules are filler. I skip every rules article because to me they are pointless filler in the way of my Lore!! 3 hours ago, The Red King said: You know I'd like to apologize if I've been a miserable sod about GW and AoS of late. I still agree with most of what I've said but I don't want to give the impression I hate this game. I also couldn't be happier if I have to come back and eat 7 miles of crow (that idiom probably doesn't translate out of English very well lol) if GW doesn't remove beasts of chaos. So here's hoping everyone else is right and I'll personally apologize for every surly post I've ever made lol. Mate dont be so hard on yourself. If there were rumours or even hints at Ogors being squatted Id be livid too. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) Quote - No more book battle tactics. Generic and GA ones - No more shooting into combat - changes to unleash hell - generic counter charge ability - new way of choosing Spells when list building - weapon ranges gone - If you take the double you cannot score BT that round - Index edition Supposedly, those leaks came before Adepticon, and most of them are being confirmed now by the Adepticon preview (index, weapon ranges), today's video (counter charges) and wf jr (spell lore, double turn changes) Edited March 25 by Ragest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 36 minutes ago, Grungnisson said: Next update, 18th of May, it seems. Here it is! FInally the dedicated preview. We could even have a follow-up preview not so long after just for the rest of the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyantheFett Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Flippy said: What does this mean? Like, seriously, balance? Flavour? Gameplay? I've very recently checked 40k rules (I haven't played this before) and everything looks rather elegant. Where's the mess? Really 10ed 40k feels like they stole a huge chunk of AoS and I sort of hope GW does it again lol. I like 10ed a lot. 40k cut a lot of everything from the game to make a lot simpler, quicker, and easier to play. Some fans how found it to have lost a lot of its personalty in their factions. Game play wise it was a bit of a mix bag. Seems like they had different teams working on different books so some factions were just insane and took 5 to 6 nurfs to get them in line with other factions. Other factions were trash and got much needed buffs. Overall I have been pretty happy with GW and balance. Really hope they get rid of bravery checks and use the OC system in 40k.......... Tired of losing half my army to those checks lol. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 11 hours ago, Elarin said: AoS players when they see the slightest supply problem with BoC : (I spend way too much time on this meme) Edited March 26 by The Lost Sigmarite 23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyantheFett Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 28 minutes ago, Ragest said: - No more book battle tactics. Generic and GA ones - No more shooting into combat - changes to unleash hell - generic counter charge ability - new way of choosing Spells when list building - weapon ranges gone - If you take the double you cannot score BT that round - Index edition I do wonder how much that double turn penalty matters? Maybe they are trying to make it an all or nothing move where if you take the double turn you better destroy the other player or you will lose on points?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 34 minutes ago, Ragest said: Supposedly, those leaks came before Adepticon, and most of them are being confirmed now by the Adepticon preview (index, weapon ranges), today's video (counter charges) and wf jr (spell lore, double turn changes) Where did those leaks come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mutton said: Where did those leaks come from? 4chan Yes, I know I know fake, for sure Edited March 25 by Ragest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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