The Rumour Thread

[Clan's Cynic]

Bael-Grimnir not getting the Prince Vhordrai treatment carrying over from White Dwarf always surprised me. Obviously I'd have preferred a unique model, but table scraps are better than nothing.

It wasn't like the 3.0 Fyreslayer BT was exactly bloated with unit entries.

 

Edited June 9, 2023 by Clan's Cynic

[Lucentia]

Whilst the cavalry rules for Warcry are mostly perfunctory, and mounted units don't really sit that well with the normal gameplay, I do think that if there was one cavalry unit that could fit well in that game it would be spider riders, it's easy to imagine how they might have abilities which let them play around the normal disadvantages when climbing terrain that warcry cavalry suffer from.  A warcry squad of ~5 spider riders (ideally with a different overall design to the current ones, so they can fit into more of a dirty tricks cavalry unit in AoS proper, compared to the current spider riders who are mostly just a cheap screen) and ~8 infantry spider goblins that can be played as a separate sneaky unit in AoS would not be out of the question, I think. 

They could throw in some spider swarm bases too, to bulk the warband out.  Though, of course, the obvious problem is that there is already a spider-themed warband for chaos, so they may not want to double dip like that.

[Tervindar]

11 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

They are in a fine state but 90% of the range is 20 years old. It needs updating more so than Wave 2s for some Factions in my opinion. Once we get rid of the WHFB sculpts in AOS Ill be beyond happy!!

I cant believe its been 2 years. Like I can but ya know 2 years of really zero narrative progress is quite mad. Damn Covid I blame you!!

It's going to be quite sometime before all of those sculpts are replaced, a large amount of the range is still from the fantasy days, and I hope that they just get moved over to ToW instead of being sunset. 

[Fellman]

Is the herald using a double scythe from dnd has any culture ever used it for real where are they drawing inspiration from?
or is it just a reelm of death ting?

[JerekKruger]

21 minutes ago, Fellman said:

Is the herald using a double scythe from dnd has any culture ever used it for real where are they drawing inspiration from?
or is it just a reelm of death ting?

It's almost certainly not based on a real thing. Scythes don't actually make very good weapons at all due to being incredibly unwieldy. If you're a peasant in a rebellion you might pick up a scythe as an improved weapon, but only if you don't have a pitch fork available. Even then you might be better off removing the blade if the scythe and using the handle as a club/staff. As such is unlikely any martial art is going to have picked up the scythe as a weapon and, in turn, incredibly unlikely they'd have modified it to have two heads.

And in an agricultural setting the really isn't a good reason to have two heads on your scythe. It'll make it more tiring to use, and more dangerous too.

So I think it's probably a fantasy thing. Not sure whether anyone had done it before DnD.

[Flippy]

1 hour ago, JerekKruger said:

It's almost certainly not based on a real thing. Scythes don't actually make very good weapons at all due to being incredibly unwieldy. If you're a peasant in a rebellion you might pick up a scythe as an improved weapon, but only if you don't have a pitch fork available. Even then you might be better off removing the blade if the scythe and using the handle as a club/staff. As such is unlikely any martial art is going to have picked up the scythe as a weapon and, in turn, incredibly unlikely they'd have modified it to have two heads.

And in an agricultural setting the really isn't a good reason to have two heads on your scythe. It'll make it more tiring to use, and more dangerous too.

So I think it's probably a fantasy thing. Not sure whether anyone had done it before DnD.

Check this out. You just need to change the blade position and you are good to go. This is how peasants were turned into actual infantry in the 18th and 19th century. The picture Forging of the scythes is a standard element of school history books in Poland 🙂

There is even a Polish military manual on the scythe techniques published in the early 19th century.

 

Edited June 10, 2023 by Flippy

[EntMan]

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Edit: apparently Wayland aren't always great at updating their stock availability...

Edited June 10, 2023 by EntMan

[Ogregut]

Not sure I'll trust Wayland games as they don't have a live stock tracker on Leviathan. 

 

[JerekKruger]

2 hours ago, Flippy said:

Check this out. You just need to change the blade position and you are good to go. This is how peasants were turned into actual infantry in the 18th and 19th century. The picture Forging of the scythes is a standard element of school history books in Poland 🙂

There is even a Polish military manual on the scythe techniques published in the early 19th century.

 

Are the blades really the same as scythe blades, or are they purpose built blade? I ask because scythe blades tend to be quite slim (which is great for cutting grass, but not so good once they hit armour or bone (they'll probably be fine initially, but they'll get damaged quite quickly and stop being effective as a result).

That said, yeah, those certainly seem like effective weapons, they're quick similar to a falx, or to various other blade based polearms.

[KingBrodd]

8 hours ago, Tervindar said:

It's going to be quite sometime before all of those sculpts are replaced, a large amount of the range is still from the fantasy days, and I hope that they just get moved over to ToW instead of being sunset. 

As long as they do replace them. Some sculpts are truly showing their age right now.

 

[Snorri Nelriksson]

So...the Summerking mention in the story means the Fec release will have the mortarch itself?

I hope so.

Edited June 10, 2023 by Snorri Nelriksson

[Flippy]

1 hour ago, JerekKruger said:

Are the blades really the same as scythe blades, or are they purpose built blade? I ask because scythe blades tend to be quite slim (which is great for cutting grass, but not so good once they hit armour or bone (they'll probably be fine initially, but they'll get damaged quite quickly and stop being effective as a result).

That said, yeah, those certainly seem like effective weapons, they're quick similar to a falx, or to various other blade based polearms.

Scythe blades for sure; some modifications were possible and other agricultural blades were sometimes used (chaff cutter), but the whole point was the lack of resources to make proper weapons. At the time they were used armour was almost obsolete.

There was even a unit formed by socialist volunteers which used the scythes in 1939, so we have actual photos

[JackStreicher]

52 minutes ago, Flippy said:

Scythe blades for sure; some modifications were possible and other agricultural blades were sometimes used (chaff cutter), but the whole point was the lack of resources to make proper weapons. At the time they were used armour was almost obsolete.

There was even a unit formed by socialist volunteers which used the scythes in 1939, so we have actual photos

Weird. I‘ve seen such scythes before in old German Farm houses.

[Captaniser]

Do any of you know how the new screamer killer and Psychophage size up against the stone horn and thundertusk? I am thinking of picking up a few of them when they become cheap and use them as an alien-esque BCR army.

[EntMan]

In all the 40k fuss today, don't forget the old lizards available made to order for a week: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/searchResults?N=2512876101+2819581147

Edited June 10, 2023 by EntMan

[EntMan]

Seems the old Kroak model is game legal, you might just need to stick him on a bigger base.

[GhostShark]

7 hours ago, JerekKruger said:

So I think it's probably a fantasy thing. Not sure whether anyone had done it before DnD.

I doubt there's ever been a single idea in D&D that wasn't done somewhere else first.

Anyway, the weapon isn't actually a scythe (or double scythe), is it? Those aren't blades.

[JerekKruger]

18 minutes ago, EntMan said:

Seems the old Kroak model is game legal, you might just need to stick him on a bigger base.

I've had a GW employee tell me that, so long as it's on the correct base, the cardboard cutout of an Ork Dreadnought from the 2nd edition 40k box is tournament legal. This might have been a stretch, but I think GW are quite good at this generally speaking. 

[return_of_grom]

34 minutes ago, EntMan said:

In all the 40k fuss today, don't forget the old lizards available made to order for a week: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/searchResults?N=2512876101+2819581147

Yes got my classic 🐸 Slann! Will try to get him to float instead of carried

Edited June 10, 2023 by return_of_grom

[acr0ssth3p0nd]

1 hour ago, EntMan said:

Seems the old Kroak model is game legal, you might just need to stick him on a bigger base.

I know it's a small thing, but I appreciate GW actually letting the customer know about this up front.

[JerekKruger]

1 hour ago, GhostShark said:

Anyway, the weapon isn't actually a scythe (or double scythe), is it? Those aren't blades.

Technically no, but I think that is trying to revoke scythiness in it's design.

[Fellman]

from king arthur legend of the sword

2 hours ago, JerekKruger said:

Technically no, but I think that is trying to revoke scythiness in it's design.

[zilberfrid]

12 hours ago, JerekKruger said:

It's almost certainly not based on a real thing. Scythes don't actually make very good weapons at all due to being incredibly unwieldy. If you're a peasant in a rebellion you might pick up a scythe as an improved weapon, but only if you don't have a pitch fork available. Even then you might be better off removing the blade if the scythe and using the handle as a club/staff. As such is unlikely any martial art is going to have picked up the scythe as a weapon and, in turn, incredibly unlikely they'd have modified it to have two heads.

And in an agricultural setting the really isn't a good reason to have two heads on your scythe. It'll make it more tiring to use, and more dangerous too.

So I think it's probably a fantasy thing. Not sure whether anyone had done it before DnD.

There is this, of course, but this guy wanted to write forms about jyst about everything.

[EntMan]

When did Thundrik’s Profiteers disappear from the GW webstore? 

[JackStreicher]

On 6/10/2023 at 8:52 AM, Fellman said:

The Story was cool, however how did no one see the "not so human legs"? 🤣

Edited June 11, 2023 by JackStreicher