The Rumour Thread

[Twisted Firaun]

5 hours ago, EonChao said:

New Gloomspite hero!

I mean update to an existing one but still it looks fantastic

 

That Govlin has facial hair….. after forty years of conflict the grobi are finally learning from the Dawi!!!

[elescapo]

6 hours ago, Gitzdee said:

Wait is this a limited hero or not?

From the article:

"Both grots (well, all three if you count Nobbla…) will be available in the New Year – as will the new Battletome: Gloomspite Gitz, in which you’ll find the rules for the Squigboss."

So he's a new unit at least.  Whether this is a limited sculpt for a new hero, we don't know, but it seems unlikely that they would reveal a limited model first.

[Morglum StormBasha]

Early point leaks from ghb are doing the rounds. Seems they’re getting rid of 5 point increments and moving back to 10s which is good. 
 

Nagash down 55 to 900

Ironblasters up 30 to 200

Edited December 24, 2022 by Morglum StormBasha

[EntMan]

To all of you who celebrate, wishing you wonderful festivities and a happy Christmas 🎅🤶

[Mutton]

38 minutes ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

Early point leaks from ghb are doing the rounds. Seems they’re getting rid of 5 point increments and moving back to 10s which is good. 
 

Nagash down 55 to 900

Ironblasters up 30 to 200

Are these the only leaked points?

[Morglum StormBasha]

Treelord -30
Drycha -15
Lady of vines -35
Warsong -5
Alarielle - 20
Durthu -20
TLA -30
Gossimids -10
Scythe hunters +10
Rev seekers +5
Spite revs -15
Gladewyrm -10
YIthari guardians -20

 

Dire wolves -5
Terrorgheist -5
Zombie dragon -5
Exiled dead -30
Kritza-5
Lady Anika -10
Lauka-25
Crimson court -20
Raduakr the beats -5
Radukar the wolf -10
Torgillius-10
Halgrim-10
Nagash -55
VLOZD -15
Fellbats -5
Night guard -5
Vargheists -15
Vargskyr -5
Vyrkos blood born-15

Cado +5
Gorslav +5
Necromancer +5
ManFred +20
Neferata +5
Vordrai +5
Blood knights +5
 

New Pitched battle points in next GHB

Scraplauncher -5
Gluttons -5
Mournfang -5
Hrothgorn -5

Ironblasters +30
Flosh +5
Slughtermaster +5
Butcher +5
Gnoblars +20
 

 

[Morglum StormBasha]

There’s a new command, use at start of combat, gives +1 attack to unit that’s not hero or monster that didn’t charge and you can’t pile in. Spell that can do d6 mortals on a 4+ to units on objectives

There’s an artifact to let you set a champ up on reserve. 

Traits
A trait that lets you use a command ability 3 times once per battle, 
another that makes a GC count as 10 on an objective where there’s no other GC. 
A once per battle teleport
And a resurrection stone. 3+ ignore last wound and heal d3.

6 new missions. 6 remain from current

Nidus paths
Battlelines drawn 
Prize of Gallet
Real stone cache
Presence of idols
(Can’t remember the 6th)

5+ ward for GC  (unclear if trait or artifact)

up to 3 units in the battalion and they can ignore the gally champ within 1” rule
Gally Vets is now a battalion.
2-4 units (unsure if they’re troop units as there’s that new symbol)
Carrying over the fight in two ranks rule to this battalion
(not up to 3 but exactly 3)

[Morglum StormBasha]

That’s all I have at the moment but sure more will come as I think the books is now out with the reviewers 

[ArcLight]

1 hour ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

Treelord -30
Drycha -15
Lady of vines -35
Warsong -5
Alarielle - 20
Durthu -20
TLA -30
Gossimids -10
Scythe hunters +10
Rev seekers +5
Spite revs -15
Gladewyrm -10
YIthari guardians -20

 

Dire wolves -5
Terrorgheist -5
Zombie dragon -5
Exiled dead -30
Kritza-5
Lady Anika -10
Lauka-25
Crimson court -20
Raduakr the beats -5
Radukar the wolf -10
Torgillius-10
Halgrim-10
Nagash -55
VLOZD -15
Fellbats -5
Night guard -5
Vargheists -15
Vargskyr -5
Vyrkos blood born-15

Cado +5
Gorslav +5
Necromancer +5
ManFred +20
Neferata +5
Vordrai +5
Blood knights +5
 

New Pitched battle points in next GHB

Scraplauncher -5
Gluttons -5
Mournfang -5
Hrothgorn -5

Ironblasters +30
Flosh +5
Slughtermaster +5
Butcher +5
Gnoblars +20
 

 

Looks like good news for Sylvaneth!

[Sahrial]

46 minutes ago, ArcLight said:

Looks like good news for Sylvaneth!

For sure. Points reduction were needed for them.

[Azamar]

2 hours ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

Treelord -30
Drycha -15
Lady of vines -35
Warsong -5
Alarielle - 20
Durthu -20
TLA -30
Gossimids -10
Scythe hunters +10
Rev seekers +5
Spite revs -15
Gladewyrm -10
YIthari guardians -20

 

Dire wolves -5
Terrorgheist -5
Zombie dragon -5
Exiled dead -30
Kritza-5
Lady Anika -10
Lauka-25
Crimson court -20
Raduakr the beats -5
Radukar the wolf -10
Torgillius-10
Halgrim-10
Nagash -55
VLOZD -15
Fellbats -5
Night guard -5
Vargheists -15
Vargskyr -5
Vyrkos blood born-15

Cado +5
Gorslav +5
Necromancer +5
ManFred +20
Neferata +5
Vordrai +5
Blood knights +5
 

New Pitched battle points in next GHB

Scraplauncher -5
Gluttons -5
Mournfang -5
Hrothgorn -5

Ironblasters +30
Flosh +5
Slughtermaster +5
Butcher +5
Gnoblars +20
 

 

The Sylvaneth changes would be just what I want for Christmas but they feel a bit wish listy to me- Durthu in particular already feels like a must take. I guess, if this is true, they feel that Syvaneth might struggle with the new ghb rules? Lady of the vines will be amazing for under 300 points as well.
 

I admittedly have only been on the receiving end of the underguts ironblasters/ gnoblars once and don’t have ogors myself, but does the price hike there feel like a bit of an overcorrection? Ironblasters are a bit too cheap for sure, but there’s options for counter play so that feels a bit steep. The gnoblars really need an faq rather than a price hike. 

 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Azamar

[TechnoVampire]

2 hours ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

There’s a new command, use at start of combat, gives +1 attack to unit that’s not hero or monster that didn’t charge and you can’t pile in. Spell that can do d6 mortals on a 4+ to units on objectives

There’s an artifact to let you set a champ up on reserve. 

Traits
A trait that lets you use a command ability 3 times once per battle, 
another that makes a GC count as 10 on an objective where there’s no other GC. 
A once per battle teleport
And a resurrection stone. 3+ ignore last wound and heal d3.

6 new missions. 6 remain from current

Nidus paths
Battlelines drawn 
Prize of Gallet
Real stone cache
Presence of idols
(Can’t remember the 6th)

5+ ward for GC  (unclear if trait or artifact)

up to 3 units in the battalion and they can ignore the gally champ within 1” rule
Gally Vets is now a battalion.
2-4 units (unsure if they’re troop units as there’s that new symbol)
Carrying over the fight in two ranks rule to this battalion
(not up to 3 but exactly 3)

Thanks for sharing… some annoying little points increases for SBGL that are going to throw a bunch of my lists off. 

[Sahrial]

1 hour ago, Azamar said:

The Sylvaneth changes would be just what I want for Christmas but they feel a bit wish listy to me- Durthu in particular already feels like a must take. I guess, if this is true, they feel that Syvaneth might struggle with the new ghb rules? Lady of the vines will be amazing for under 300 points as well.
 

I admittedly have only been on the receiving end of the underguts ironblasters/ gnoblars once and don’t have ogors myself, but does the price hike there feel like a bit of an overcorrection? Ironblasters are a bit too cheap for sure, but there’s options for counter play so that feels a bit steep. The gnoblars really need an faq rather than a price hike. 

 

My 2¢ as both a Sylvaneth and Ogors player is that sylvaneth have, in recent history, had a severe issue with being overcosted, especially in the heroes department since they have so few small hero options.

I think this will help add in a few of those bodies you feel like you’re missing on the table, be it anither pack of dryads or revenants, or a branchwych.

On the ironblasters, I honestly agree it’s an over correction, but not so much that it makes it unusable. There’s also the fact that an artillery sniper in a season focused on infantry heroes is gonna be very desirable, especially if the sharpshooter battalion allows artillery (which it probably won’t but still). I think once more of the new Ogors book blows over, and it evens out, we’ll see a battlescroll update tweaking it back down

[acr0ssth3p0nd]

2 minutes ago, Sahrial said:

My 2¢ as both a Sylvaneth and Ogors player is that sylvaneth have, in recent history, had a severe issue with being overcosted, especially in the heroes department since they have so few small hero options.

I think this will help add in a few of those bodies you feel like you’re missing on the table, be it anither pack of dryads or revenants, or a branchwych.

Totally agree on the Sylvaneth front. Many of our units are in good places, but just aren't worth their points. These adjustments will really help out units that need that boost.

[Ganigumo]

4 hours ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

There’s a new command, use at start of combat, gives +1 attack to unit that’s not hero or monster that didn’t charge and you can’t pile in. Spell that can do d6 mortals on a 4+ to units on objectives

There’s an artifact to let you set a champ up on reserve. 

Traits
A trait that lets you use a command ability 3 times once per battle, 
another that makes a GC count as 10 on an objective where there’s no other GC. 
A once per battle teleport
And a resurrection stone. 3+ ignore last wound and heal d3.

6 new missions. 6 remain from current

Nidus paths
Battlelines drawn 
Prize of Gallet
Real stone cache
Presence of idols
(Can’t remember the 6th)

5+ ward for GC  (unclear if trait or artifact)

up to 3 units in the battalion and they can ignore the gally champ within 1” rule
Gally Vets is now a battalion.
2-4 units (unsure if they’re troop units as there’s that new symbol)
Carrying over the fight in two ranks rule to this battalion
(not up to 3 but exactly 3)

Needing to not charge really takes the oomph out of that command trait. You really need to be a tough anvil to use it.

Pushing fighting in 2 ranks into a battalion seems like a bad idea, it just encourages players to dodge taking those units whenever possible again to keep drops low. 

[Mutton]

Why the hell make Gnoblars cost 20 more points? They're literally just bodies meant to die. Were they afraid of a Gnoblar meta? The Gutbusters stuff is still way overcosted and 30 points on Ironblasters is an overcorrection for something that's only a problem in a specific subfaction.

At least they're finally doing away with the stupid 5 point increments.

[Jetlife]

Happy holidays to all!

im wondering if there’s more to the Gitz release then we thought. One unit of Gitmob wolf riders, and a new squig boss replacement already. It’s supposed to be the era of Destruction. Maybe, we’ll get lucky and they have a nice surprise and they will expand the gitz even more. Would love to see them have the Moonclan, Squiggs amd Gitmob all in one book. 

[Skreech Verminking]

5 hours ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

Treelord -30
Drycha -15
Lady of vines -35
Warsong -5
Alarielle - 20
Durthu -20
TLA -30
Gossimids -10
Scythe hunters +10
Rev seekers +5
Spite revs -15
Gladewyrm -10
YIthari guardians -20

 

Dire wolves -5
Terrorgheist -5
Zombie dragon -5
Exiled dead -30
Kritza-5
Lady Anika -10
Lauka-25
Crimson court -20
Raduakr the beats -5
Radukar the wolf -10
Torgillius-10
Halgrim-10
Nagash -55
VLOZD -15
Fellbats -5
Night guard -5
Vargheists -15
Vargskyr -5
Vyrkos blood born-15

Cado +5
Gorslav +5
Necromancer +5
ManFred +20
Neferata +5
Vordrai +5
Blood knights +5
 

New Pitched battle points in next GHB

Scraplauncher -5
Gluttons -5
Mournfang -5
Hrothgorn -5

Ironblasters +30
Flosh +5
Slughtermaster +5
Butcher +5
Gnoblars +20
 

 

So what’s new point wise for the skaven?

28 minutes ago, Mutton said:

Why the hell make Gnoblars cost 20 more points? They're literally just bodies meant to die. Were they afraid of a Gnoblar meta? The Gutbusters stuff is still way overcosted and 30 points on Ironblasters is an overcorrection for something that's only a problem in a specific subfaction.

At least they're finally doing away with the stupid 5 point increments.

I’m guessing that it was the potential 3d3 mortal wounds they could do to a single unit in a single turn

[Lich King]

Is there supposed to be some preview tomorrow ?

[Ogregut]

1 hour ago, Lich King said:

Is there supposed to be some preview tomorrow ?

Nothing has been announced, however based on past years they normally drop  either a teaser video of thing to come in the next year or reveal something new. 

So could see something or nothing at all. 

[Mutton]

2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

I’m guessing that it was the potential 3d3 mortal wounds they could do to a single unit in a single turn

It's still a 50/50 chance, and it's pretty easily avoided. I've used Gnoblars in all of my games since the new book and they've never done any amount of damage that would have affected the outcome of a game. I think GW's "FUN DETECTORS" went off and decided to shut it down for trembling fear of something that wasn't a problem.

[Skreech Verminking]

3 hours ago, Mutton said:

It's still a 50/50 chance, and it's pretty easily avoided. I've used Gnoblars in all of my games since the new book and they've never done any amount of damage that would have affected the outcome of a game. I think GW's "FUN DETECTORS" went off and decided to shut it down for trembling fear of something that wasn't a problem.

I understand your pain.

it’s about as much if a problem as they did with the rats.

have you seen the changes before.

we had like one real change and it was nerfed, no thanks Imll just use the old stuff 

[JackStreicher]

5 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

So what’s new point wise for the skaven?

Rules change for everything Warplightning cannons:

Every 1 makes you suffer 3 mortal wounds.

It also can only target the closest enemy unit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

well that’d be a good change for the game, among other buff restrictions.

[Skreech Verminking]

9 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:

Rules change for everything Warplightning cannons:

Every 1 makes you suffer 3 mortal wounds.

It also can only target the closest enemy unit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

well that’d be a good change for the game, among other buff restrictions.

I mean they could probably just bump it up to a 185 points add the keyword that only a single warlock engineer can ever overcharge a single lightning cannons instead of multiple.

and there you go.

and overpriced cannon that needs a 105points tax to overcharge.

it’s what killed the unit in the last book

also as broken as a warplightning cannon seems (especially with the american winning an event)

the list is still extremely random.

he did mention that having 3cannons would balance the randomness out, but that really isn’t the case.

I’ve played 3 cannons with 3bombardiers in the second, and they can be extremely random.

and one point they kill everything except teclis from the enemy army,

and in the other hand, 3of them isn’t enough to kill a songle giant in 5 turns.

sometimes they will even di more damage to you.

after 2 3game tournaments the amount of. Mortal wounds my cannons took were over 90.

basically I lost them all in those 6 games in the first turn.

while at my practice round (which were three games each time before the tournament) they were destroying everything in their way.

except the games were I played against seraphons. (Hopefully skinks get less buffs in the next edition)

Edited December 25, 2022 by Skreech Verminking

[Black_Templar_Lad]

Happy holidays everyone, hope whatever it is you're doing today is what you like to do. Another year to thank for being the best community in this hobby.