The Rumour Thread

[HorticulusTGA]

15 hours ago, Indecisive said:

update, the 40k leaks have reached talking chaos space marines and the next space marines codex

maybe someone just needs to hop into whatever chatgroup the leaks are coming from to interject some aos questions, it's the only solution

Do you have a link please ? I checked DakkaDakka but didn't see any thread about 40k Chaos. 

Also asking because the initial rumor (which was proven true up to now) mentioned new Chaos Daemons, i.e. potential new models for AOS too  :') 

[Maogrim]

29 minutes ago, MarkK said:

Any word on when the FS or IDK battletomes are coming out?

I assume we are getting new Vanguard boxes also, any speculation on contents?

Nothing yet. No hints from Warhammer Community and not even leaks or 4chan rumours, as far as I'm aware. At this point we just assume that one or both factions surely should get one, but nothing has been actually confirmed. Not even by ways of a @Whitefang reaction.

[Clan's Cynic]

39 minutes ago, MarkK said:

Any word on when the FS or IDK battletomes are coming out?

I assume we are getting new Vanguard boxes also, any speculation on contents?

Nothing. I'm guessing they'll be an LVO announcement at this point. 

Fyreslayer Vanguard will almost certainly include a Magmadroth, since you literally can't get it outside of the Start Collecting. After that I'd guess a box of Vulkites, a box of Hearthguard and maybe a Battlesmith. If they're feeling generous maybe x2 boxes of Hearthguard. 

Over on the 40k front, the Combat Patrols for lesser played factions appear to have some fantastic value (the GSC box is absolutely packed with stuff), so it may be the Fyreslayer Vanguard ends up being quite good, similar to how when the SC for Fyreslayers first landed you basically got the Vulkites for free.

Edited January 19, 2022 by Clan's Cynic

[lare2]

33 minutes ago, Iksdee said:

This one always looked like a Bretonian Stormcast to me. Would insta buy an army looking like this model.
(cursed city had some really awesome models)

 

I really want the new Cities army to look like this... if it ever does get a revamp. I'm with you, would be all over an army in this style. 

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

8 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Fyreslayer Vanguard will almost certainly include a Magmadroth, since you literally can't get it outside of the Start Collecting. After that I'd guess a box of Vulkites, a box of Hearthguard and maybe a Battlesmith. If they're feeling generous maybe x2 boxes of Hearthguard. 

Fyreslayers don't even really have enough units to give them a new box that is meaningfully different from their Start Collecting. Even adding Hearthguard in might be tough, because if the price of the Vanguard box rises too much, they will probably have to package the Magmadroth separately as well.

I wonder if we could see a mixed dwarf Vanguard box if that is indeed the direction the new battletome takes. Magmadroth, Vulkites, Hammerers and a Runelord or something like that.

[Clan's Cynic]

Hopefully this hints at some future God-specific Daemon Prince kits. The 40k Nurgle Daemon Prince is still one of my favourite models ever.

Warhammer-Community article.

Edited January 19, 2022 by Clan's Cynic

[madmac]

5 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Fyreslayers don't even really have enough units to give them a new box that is meaningfully different from their Start Collecting. Even adding Hearthguard in might be tough, because if the price of the Vanguard box rises too much, they will probably have to package the Magmadroth separately as well.

I wonder if we could see a mixed dwarf Vanguard box if that is indeed the direction the new battletome takes. Magmadroth, Vulkites, Hammerers and a Runelord or something like that.

Not really a price problem. Vanguard boxes add about $30 over the SC box, taking the existing SC box and throwing in 1-2 boxes of HGB is perfectly in line with their usual price point. It's a very boring Vanguard box, but you can only do so much with Fyreslayers without expanding their range.

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

Just now, madmac said:

Not really a price problem. Vanguard boxes add about $30 over the SC box, taking the existing SC box and throwing in 1-2 boxes of HGB is perfectly in line with their usual price point. It's a very boring Vanguard box, but you can only do so much with Fyreslayers without expanding their range.

I see it as a problem in so far as that would raise the price of the Magmadroth by $30 unless they also make it available outside the box. Otherwise, sure, it works.

[madmac]

Just now, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

I see it as a problem in so far as that would raise the price of the Magmadroth by $30 unless they also make it available outside the box. Otherwise, sure, it works.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah that sucks but it's still way more likely they put the Magmadroth in a Vanguard Box than they keep the SC or start selling it separately again, IMO.

[Aleser]

Imagine they both get vanguard boxes with only new units, a man can dream 😂

[madmac]

14 minutes ago, Aleser said:

Imagine they both get vanguard boxes with only new units, a man can dream 😂

That would be amazing. Unlikely but Amazing.

Still, between the STD SC and the Ork Combat Patrol, there is precedent for such things..There's also precedent of locking certain models into new SC/Vanguard boxes even if not everything in them is new..

Edited January 19, 2022 by madmac

[novakai]

1 hour ago, HorticulusTGA said:

Do you have a link please ? I checked DakkaDakka but didn't see any thread about 40k Chaos. 

Also asking because the initial rumor (which was proven true up to now) mentioned new Chaos Daemons, i.e. potential new models for AOS too  :') 

I saw the the thread for the Primaris Space Marine rumors (new units and chapter Supplements) on Bolter and chainsword, but I didn’t see anything talking about chaos space marine and The daemon codex outside of the original big 40K leak

edit: there are some CSM rule leak on Doctrines and some stuff for Night lord rules

Edited January 19, 2022 by novakai

[edmc78]

45 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Hopefully this hints at some future God-specific Daemon Prince kits. The 40k Nurgle Daemon Prince is still one of my favourite models ever.

Warhammer-Community article.

I'd love a mega Daemon Prince kit with all the options this guy has. 

[Twisted Firaun]

1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Hopefully this hints at some future God-specific Daemon Prince kits. The 40k Nurgle Daemon Prince is still one of my favourite models ever.

Warhammer-Community article.

Oh the possibilities if this became a model kit..... I'd make mine a Tzeentch/Slaanesh hybrid wizard-prince instantly.

[EonChao]

25 minutes ago, novakai said:

I saw the the thread for the Primaris Space Marine rumors (new units and chapter Supplements) on Bolter and chainsword, but I didn’t see anything talking about chaos space marine and The daemon codex outside of the original big 40K leak

Yeah I watched the Valrak video earlier and he didn't mention anything Chaos aside from World Eaters with regards to the new rumour. I believe we're still on for Daemons at the end of this year, just depends where Tyranids fall in the schedule as they weren't mentioned in the original leak

[zilberfrid]

3 hours ago, madmac said:

Not really a price problem. Vanguard boxes add about $30 over the SC box, taking the existing SC box and throwing in 1-2 boxes of HGB is perfectly in line with their usual price point. It's a very boring Vanguard box, but you can only do so much with Fyreslayers without expanding their range.

They could also toss 3-4 infantry heroes into the box.

[novakai]

There was some Old world rumors posted on Reddit today. But reading them they don’t seem worth posting them here

[Clan's Cynic]

Saw this on Reddit, from the back of the new White Dwarf. It could just be they used it in a photo and forgot he's OOP, but could be Malagor is going to get a MTO run or is being put back into production?

[CommissarRotke]

21 minutes ago, novakai said:

There was some Old world rumors posted on Reddit today. But reading them they don’t seem worth posting them here

you may as well post them tbqh, we got nothing else and there's a good chance TOW will be usable in AOS

[novakai]

49 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

you may as well post them tbqh, we got nothing else and there's a good chance TOW will be usable in AOS

Well that not what the rumor say is going to happen lol

from Reddit:

Warhammer: The Old World Rumours

**Hi Guys,** 

**many rumours cycling around the last 2 Months - lets start to collect them and maybe you guys have new information:** 

​

***The Newest:*** 

1. At the start there will be a core box (empire against orcs&goblin) in plastic that will be availiable in GW stores and such (thing HH Burning of Prospero/Betrayal at Calth), then everything else for a while will be FW resin. The initial goal is to have several supporting releases for each of the starter factions, then do two B-tier factions (either new ones or less popular old ones like wood elves) entirely in resin within two years.

2. After those two years there will be a second starter with two more factions big factions (Dwarves vs High Elves has supposedly been considered, but both in one box has been vetoed) with accompanying resin support. After that there'll be an assessment period where all production will go to FW. If things turn out favorably there'll be more starters and possibly other plastic kits after that.

3. There also has been an explicit mandate to have NO kit overlap between AoS and TOW, even where it could be justified like Skaven or Lizardmen.  Yes. Everything will be new sculpts, there will be zero carry-over or reprints of old stuff. Old models can be used, but loadouts won't necessarily be the same.

4.  Can't say for obvious reasons, though previously the guy had been reasonably accurate.It's entirely possible that I misunderstood something or he got it wrong. The two-year thing confused me, too.That said, I've heard the rumor about resin for everything outside the big boxes from multiple sources, so I'd put my money on that being mostly accurate. 

​

***The Oldest November/December 202***1:

 

1. We will see a preview for Warhammer The Old World at the beginningw of next Year, this one will be bigger than those we saw in the past and since the Game was the first Time announced in November 2019.This preview will be a bit more precise about the Game.The Ruleset for Warhammer the Old World will be 7th Edition to the core, but with smaller influences from the 5th, 6th and 8th Editions. They understood that the 8th was too big in the sense of Army building, even for GW Games.  

2. The Core Rules are more or teaser completed and work on the Starter Sets written content and early expansions will soon starting but Miniatures are still in Work  

3. There will be a new concept of Expansions Books and three Compendium-like Tomes for 8th Edition Armies before The End Times in a format like Ravening Hordes from the early 6th Edition. It looks like that the concept of Armybooks will stay and continue and The Old World becomes something like the 9th Edition WHFB.

4. Those Kislev and Cathay previews are misinterpreted by some people. They do serve more like an advice for Total War and should show how both Games are "interlocked" based on the same Artworks and as part of World Building for the TT Game. Also they will show that the new WHFB Game will be not focused on the territories of the Empire as in the past. Those faction will come for The Old World but not from the very beginning. 

5. Model Ranges are already in the Work, but the most progressing Part of the Reboot is the Backstory and the Freerooms they have because the different timeline.

6. Early Factions for the Game will be no brainers and all time community favs like the Empire, Orcs and Goblins, Dwarfs and Chaos. Those factions are  focused the most but others are in the work, but do not expect Cathay or other niche factions too early, those will need years after the reboot to come to light.
7. Release could be Summer 2023, but that Date isn't finally set. Covid brought more trouble for GW than everyone believes...

8. They're also internal changes for Warhammer the Old World. The main Studio is more involved in this project, which was the idea of the oldest Studio Members.

9. Also the established release shedule for GW in the last years is mostly obsolete thanks to Covid: They can't no longer bring new Editions every three years.

I got informations about those "Compendium" Books for Warhammer The Old Word.

As earlier said, it will be three Books.

"Good Factions Book"

\- Empire

\- Bretonnia

\- Dwarfs

\- High Elves

"Bad Factions Book"

\-Warriors of Chaos

\- Beasts of Chaos

\- Dark Elves

\- Skaven

\- Orcs and Goblins

\- Vampire Counts

"Neutral Factions Book"

\- Wood Elves

\- Khemri

\- Ogre KIngdoms

\- Lizardmen

​

so far thats the newest ******, have you any more? let uns know 🙂

 

 

[novakai]

1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Saw this on Reddit, from the back of the new White Dwarf. It could just be they used it in a photo and forgot he's OOP, but could be Malagor is going to get a MTO run or is being put back into production?

Sometimes they reuse stock photography from a while ago, they use the old Goblin warboss on cave squig one time I remember 

[CommissarRotke]

19 minutes ago, novakai said:

3. There also has been an explicit mandate to have NO kit overlap between AoS and TOW, even where it could be justified like Skaven or Lizardmen.  Yes. Everything will be new sculpts, there will be zero carry-over or reprints of old stuff. Old models can be used, but loadouts won't necessarily be the same.

 

interesting, so they're going to rely on resin more than I thought. Still wondering if they have the production capabilities to do this... I know any resin kits will be a pass from me. 

[Ganigumo]

1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Saw this on Reddit, from the back of the new White Dwarf. It could just be they used it in a photo and forgot he's OOP, but could be Malagor is going to get a MTO run or is being put back into production?

I remember him being available on the webstore pretty recently (past 6 months-ish in canada), but he's gone now. Maybe they were just keeping him around until they sold out though.

 

 

15 minutes ago, novakai said:

Sometimes they reuse stock photography from a while ago, they use the old Goblin warboss on cave squig one time I remember 

To be fair that guy wasn't taken out of production until after the gitz book had been available for a while.

[madmac]

Those Old World rumors still don't strike me as very plausible for a variety of reasons. That older one especially just reads to me as "Don't worry fellow grogs! GW definitely won't release Kislev or Cathay or anything else new!"

4 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

interesting, so they're going to rely on resin more than I thought. Still wondering if they have the production capabilities to do this... I know any resin kits will be a pass from me. 

It's pretty much the HH model. More or less all Resin with the exception of big boxed sets. Not sure if being basically a repeat of HH makes the rumors more or less plausible though, Forgeworld has been slowly dying for a while now and even HH feels like it gets three releases a year or something.

Edited January 19, 2022 by madmac

[novakai]

3 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

interesting, so they're going to rely on resin more than I thought. Still wondering if they have the production capabilities to do this... I know any resin kits will be a pass from me. 

It can be Horus heresy level where all the special units are Resin except for the base space marine troops and transports or it can be how Specialist game does where the core game is plastic but they release special FW models from time to time.

but I think there going to be resin model in the game though