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Maggotkin have the Feculent Gnarlmaw as their unique terrain.

Thanks for doing this, BTW!

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46 minutes ago, Overread said:

Updated the first post to reflect the news revealed here:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/03/pre-order-preview-carrion-empire-and-genestealer-cults/

 

Tomes, Spells and terrain for Flesheater Courts and Skaven! 

This update just helps solidify the path GW is taking with releasing their battletomes, which imo is probably the best and most efficient way forward. Here's to hoping by end of year or start of next year we'll have even more combined army tome releases.

One of thing I think people aren't fully pointing out is the fact that aside from SCE the new FEC is the first ever updated battletome from the Kirby era AoS 1.0 days. This is now solid proof that GW is willing to fully update the older battletomes, something we as a community have been hoping for but never really had any evidence of it actually happening until now.

The future looks bright for AoS, let's just hope the momentum of releases keeps going.

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Updated the listing, moved the removed armies to their own section and added the date for Khorne. Any info on updated rumours would be good to know. 

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I would second the comment from @Forrix that the categorisation of Battletomes needs slightly more refinement.

There is a world of difference between the Ironjawz Battletome and the Bonesplitterz Battletome for example.  You are currently classifying Bonesplitterz as "Old" which is incorrect by your own definition, because it does have Allegiance Abilities.

There were essentially 3 eras:

BINOs: Battletome In Name Only.  Essentially a collection of Warscrolls and Lore.  Includes some Batallions, but comes with no Allegiance Abilities, no spell lore, no chapter tactics, no artefacts, no prayer lore, no mount traits, no nothing.  Examples: Ironjawz, Fyreslayers, Seraphon.

AOS 1 Battletomes: A clear demarcation after the original GH dropped, and Sylvaneth and Bonesplitterz books came out shortly afterwards.  Allegiance Abilities and artefacts were introduced.  There is a sliding scale and evolution within this, so for example Bonesplitterz have only 6 spells and 12 artefacts, whereas Tzeentch has page after page after page of goodies.  KO came with chapter tactics which was the first time they had been seen in AOS, and so on.  (Important to note that because BCR and KO are both considered weak currently, that does not make their Battletomes "old": they do have Allegiance Abilities and artefacts.  They are just weaker AOS 1 Battletomes, not old in the sense that Ironjawz is old.  They do actually contain some free rules, they're just poor quality compared to some other books from around that time or later).  Examples: Bonesplitterz, Sylvaneth, Tzeentch.

AOS 2 Battletomes: Nurgle onwards.  Designed with AOS 2nd ed and things like free summoning in mind.  Examples: Gloomspite Gits, DOK, FEC.

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I think it's also flagging up for the non-Battletome armies which have been given GH Allegiance Abilities and which have not.

So Slaanesh and Wanderers do have their own free rules for example, whereas Gutbusters have been left out. 

Likewise Greenskinz and Gitmob - although as you noted, they have been silently deleted from the webstore, and in the absence of any actual communication on the matter we therefore have to assume GW will be removing them from Matched Play.

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11 hours ago, PlasticCraic said:

AOS 2 Battletomes: Nurgle onwards.  Designed with AOS 2nd ed and things like free summoning in mind.  Examples: Gloomspite Gits, DOK, FEC.

Im really sure that some of them were written with AoS 3.0 on mind (mainly Gloomspite, skaventide and FEC). Don't know why, but their rules seems to have something more behind them.

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On 3/14/2019 at 11:31 AM, Beliman said:

Im really sure that some of them were written with AoS 3.0 on mind (mainly Gloomspite, skaventide and FEC). Don't know why, but their rules seems to have something more behind them.

I can only speak for Gloomspite and Skaven, to which I agree with your statement. They have a different feel to them entirely, and are more consistent with what I imagine AOS3 to be. There will be changes, for sure, but the overall focus on the "wholly within" type of stuff, and intended keyword interactions is pretty on point right now. Also the way artifacts, command traits and spells are handled in Skaventide and Gloomspite. Don't know if FEC does it similarly. 

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