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7 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:

If you say so. Only have been apart of the Warhammer Community since 8th edition fantasy.

 

You Argumentes are in someway interesting although I’ll have to disagree with them.

Yes skaven do have many option to their arsenal. Although most of it usually have a very low armoursave. Also it makes the faction so extremely interesting.

being able to field warmaschines, beasts and other crazy stuff that can literally tear your foe and sometimes even your own units apart, is what makes the skaven unic.

also why not have an army that has option like this available?

we already have a almost only shooting armie, armies that are meant for combat, and armies that go, for a full horde aspect.

Why not have an armie that combines everything together.

isnt this what makes the armies and especially the skaven so unic.

i would love to see this unicness to stay.

Yes, my hate stems from long long ago, from the world that was.
Actually where they are right now is pretty good, because they don't get all the best stuff like they used to.

Of course you disagree ! You keep roleplaying as a Skaven ;) 

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12 minutes ago, azoxystrobin said:

Of course you disagree ! You keep roleplaying as a Skaven ;) 

If it weren’t me, somebody else would be doing it so, if you don’t like it, sorry but I won’t be stopping.

edi: also fully understand you hate.

its something every player has against a or many factions.

Hope and other similar feelings are just the thing that makes us human.

 

 

 

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this box is sexy as ******, i was gonna get 6 horrors anyway for a 24 horror list im wanting to do plus i wanted stormfiends for a 3 x 3 stormfiend list so i really can't wait.

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I want them all.

Dead-things as base decoration, the doomwheel to finally make my own death hammer brigade (3Doomwheels forming a triangle).

i want that warplightning cannon to be able to blast my foes with 4cannons away.

i want that new warlock engineer, who seems to be hilarious powerful blasting away foes (and maybe friends??)

and finally the 3stormfiends,

for which I cannot find any reason for including them in my armie.

 

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8 hours ago, Dirtnaps said:

That would be both awesome and fit entirely. I mean they're practically already there, Moulder makes the frankenstein-esk monstrosities, Skryre has the superior totally working as intended tech, Verminus supplies the soldiers, Pestilens is the biological warfare and Eshin are spec ops.

well, we got a game idea folks but who gonna be the proverbial blazkowicz in the game for us.

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10 minutes ago, khadgar567 said:

well, we got a game idea folks but who gonna be the proverbial blazkowicz in the game for us.

Thanquols Bonebracker ratogre😜🤪

Edit: Or maybe a new Headtaker.

those both characters seem to fit the brutal aspect of murder perfectly.

 And they both kill a certain enemy.

blazkowicz smacking the heads of a certain tip of folk front the Second World War who I don’t want to call out since I don’t know if anybody sees this as a insult.

and beardthings/green-things who get slaughtered by Queek.

perfect fit.

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4 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

If it weren’t me, somebody else would be doing it so, if you don’t like it, sorry but I won’t be stopping.

No animosity here :) 

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6 minutes ago, azoxystrobin said:

No animosity here :) 

No just the typical skaven plotting, nothing new 

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On the one hand, I'm a little mad I picked up the FEC skirmish box my local had the other day.

On the other, the only thing I don't have are the heroes and Stormfiends.

Soooooooo yea, wish there was a bit more.

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14 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

Thanquols Bonebracker ratogre😜🤪

Edit: Or maybe a new Headtaker.

those both characters seem to fit the brutal aspect of murder perfectly.

 And they both kill a certain enemy.

blazkowicz smacking the heads of a certain tip of folk front the Second World War who I don’t want to call out since I don’t know if anybody sees this as a insult.

and beardthings/green-things who get slaughtered by Queek.

perfect fit.

Blaskowicz kills ******.  Nothing wrong with ***** on ******.

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Wow TGA auto edits that ?

Ok he kills 'National Socialists'

+++Mod Edit+++

Yes it does. Also please don’t swear as I’ve just had to edit your message. TGA is for EVERYONE, include those who may may find that language offensive and those who want to protect younger forum members. Don’t agree, drop me or any of the mods a message

Gaz

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Haha I'm amused at exactly what did and what didn't get the *** treatment in the above post.

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The forum's machine spirit continues to impress.

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22 hours ago, Cyanid32600 said:

this box is sexy as ******, i was gonna get 6 horrors anyway for a 24 horror list im wanting to do plus i wanted stormfiends for a 3 x 3 stormfiend list so i really can't wait.

24 horrors 🤘

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On 1/6/2019 at 12:50 AM, Minis by Night said:

I think it would be possible to include everything in a single book with 4 allegiances: Pestilens, Skryre, Moulder and Masterclan(or Veminus). Masterclan would be used as a general, everything goes faction, while the other 3 would be more specialized factions. Grey Seers and Eshin assassins would be available to all.

See, when I touch briefly Warhammer Fantasy in the late 90s, I loved the Skavens for two reasons: first they're insane. And what that mean is that they are so many skavens that they can totally afford to used semi-suicidal guns that blows up in their face half the time, or a big mouse-wheel who's sole purpose is to ram into the enemy ranks at high speed and explode the moment it hit a slight bump in the battlefield. Because, what's a few hundred suckers when you have millions?

And second, the amazing diversity of the army. Again, that's driven by the large amount of ratmen, but also by all the specialized clans. With just the four Great Clans, GW has enough material and freedom to make the Skaven that is even more diversified than the Stormcasts. No other army has hordes and technology, and mutated monsters, and assassins, and mages, and swarms, and god avatars. And stuff that mixes all of that.

And I really hope we keep all of that together. And that they push the creativity with all the clans. More crazy machines and contraptions. More mutated rats. More flatulence jokes (a.k.a. poison winds). And above all, bring back the darn flame-throwers, it's not a real skaven party if I can't cook my enemies in green fire!

This.  

Skaven are currently sort of in a weird place where they are their own Chaos faction apart from all the other four and scheming to overthrow them, but also used as meatshields by Archaon.  It really doesn't make a lot of sense and it creates the current the problem with Skaven in AoS is that they are scattered around in different clans that don't make any sense for the army or in the lore. Remember, the Skaven think they are the chosen species and everything else are literally "things" to be used for the Glory of the Horned rat (and obviously the benefit of the Skaven with enough power to use them). 

 A single book that provided general allegiance abilities and made clanrats battleline for all Skaven clans/armies along with battleline if options depending on your general (e.g. stormvermin if general is a warlord) and a serries of sub-allegiance abilities, command traits and artifacts for each clan similar to the BoC book or the little I have seen of the Gitz book would work very well. Sure, it might narrow the diversity of the Skaven little, but it would make the combined armies that have always been the hallmark of the Skaven viable again. 

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Very interested to see where this leads 😁

the original battletomes and expansions of sub-factions was great. Ard boyz into ironjawz, slayers into Fyreslayers etc have been great, although they are all in need of a second wave. 

Equally the legions of nagash, beasts of chaos etc have been smash hits as well!

Gloomspite does both and is unique, expansion of range but at the same time a consolidation, we've  also seen the release coming with  malign portents etc. 

Nighthaunt are in the same vein as ironjawz etc with a noticeably larger range though

Where are they going with FEC? Can't tell, new model very surprising albeit needed as you can't have a king without a big monster box. I didn't expect a battletome for them at all but I've always liked to think of the range expanded. Maybe in the way of genestealer cults, where they've added a couple of unit types but mostly elite character types. Maybe a mounted unit, ghouls thinking of themselves on knightly steeds but in reality on rolling bloated corpses!

Skaven no idea, could go legions of nagash style it is the safe bet for now. But they are so ripe to split into 4, but seeing as gloomspite has three factions I would see it going this way.  Love to see new units, I've always liked skyre and the weapon teams and poisoned wind globadiers. The new death runner style has appeared a few times now and could be a sign of the new direction and a foreshadowing . 

Who knows fun to speculate though!

 

 

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So not only is Carrion Empire on preorder Next Week.

 

But also Battletome Skaven and Battletome Flesh Eater Courts. Well then that was fast!

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Got to ***** those ***** ****** auto edits ****** from S****horpe

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Ugh...just what I need in my meta more skaven players talking like skaven.   🙄

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I had a massive 14k point skaven army a few years back from 7th to 8th Ed and I will say I only once out of the dozens and dozens of games I played with them got close to winning.  Against 8th Ed high elves.  Dwarves cleaned house every time and resisted literally every tactic skaven had to offer.  My greatest victory against them was destroying one of the four war machines he had on the table and from then on the warp lightning cannon were always the first to go.  From sling slaves to ratogres and abominations to a horde unit of 90 stormvermin nothing could get through the ‘enduring mountain’.  Even though I lost I will always love those games as it was with my first army I ever collected against my best friend and his first army.  

Bringing the skaven into one book is the smartest thing they could do given how much variance there is in the faction.  Giving them several different clan based allegiances is a really nice touch and is the best way they could have done Skaven.

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25 minutes ago, chord said:

Ugh...just what I need in my meta more skaven players talking like skaven.   🙄

Yeah, I hate it when people enjoy the fiction of the game we all love too.

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1 minute ago, Kirjava13 said:

Yeah, I hate it when people enjoy the fiction of the game we all love too.

Enjoying is one thing...talking like a mouse.. for me at least it's not enjoyable. 

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1 minute ago, chord said:

Enjoying is one thing...talking like a mouse.. for me at least it's not enjoyable. 

Ahem - I'd like to note that Skaven players do NOT talk like mice. They talk like proper rats! 

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Lucky you! The combined skaven battletome is on preorder lol! I think it includes everything except Pestilens, which I personally think makes sense. They were against the other clans in two civil wars and always seemed more anti social then the other clans. Clan eshin  is constantly being bought as assassins for politics and the likes, verminous is the soldiers so obviously they would have guys helping most of the clans, masterclan is self explanatory, and lots of skaven would like high tech help, plus monsters are nice shock troops! Heck skryre and Moulder worked together to make super Rat monsters! However Pestilens always seems to be an ugly duckling per say. I like their inclusion into nurgle and would like to see them prosper as a unique faction of themselves as well as nurgle allies. Also they work superbly alone, they just need a few new units to really take off. I find the other clans don’t work as well alone. 

Edit: it would appear the book contains 6 clans, which I believe means pestilens is included in the book. If this is so then I will continue to play them as a single army no matter what become so competitive for the rat folk

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28 minutes ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said:

Lucky you! The combined skaven battletome is on preorder lol! I think it includes everything except Pestilens, which I personally think makes sense. They were against the other clans in two civil wars and always seemed more anti social then the other clans. Clan eshin  is constantly being bought as assassins for politics and the likes, verminous is the soldiers so obviously they would have guys helping most of the clans, masterclan is self explanatory, and lots of skaven would like high tech help, plus monsters are nice shock troops! Heck skryre and Moulder worked together to make super Rat monsters! However Pestilens always seems to be an ugly duckling per say. I like their inclusion into nurgle and would like to see them prosper as a unique faction of themselves as well as nurgle allies. Also they work superbly alone, they just need a few new units to really take off. I find the other clans don’t work as well alone. 

Edit: it would appear the book contains 6 clans, which I believe means pestilens is included in the book. If this is so then I will continue to play them as a single army no matter what become so competitive for the rat folk

Pestilense is indeed included and when played unlocks new battleline so you can definitely play it pure with the benefits of the skaven tide allegiance abilities 

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