Skreech Verminking Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, Chumphammer said: ready for filming tonight! Need to get myself one of these as well. It is after all the best buffer for any gitz army. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1st time on camera and played bad lol but here is the gitz vs Soulblight GL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Gloomspite bundle posted in sales and trade thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Alright, List submission is on Friday and I think this is what I'm going to take to Red Harvest GT. Gonna do my best but with a spiderfang list I won't get my hopes up too much 😅. Its a bit unfortunate I couldn't get my hands on a second killbow in time though. Spoiler Allegiance: Gloomspite Gitz- Option: Grimscuttle Tribes- Grand Strategy: Prized Sorcery- Triumphs: InspiredLeadersWebspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider (295)*- General- Command Trait: Prophet of da Spider God- Artefact: Shyishan Spider-sigils- Lore of the Spiderfangs: Sneaky DistractionScuttleboss on Gigantic Spider (105)*- Artefact: Totem of the Spider GodWebspinner Shaman (85)*- Lore of the Spiderfangs: Scuttling TerrorsWebspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider (295)**- Artefact: Amulet of Destiny (Universal Artefact)- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming WeaponWebspinner Shaman (85)**- Lore of the Spiderfangs: Gift of da Spider GodMadcap Shaman (80)**- Lore of the Moonclans: Itchy NuisanceBattleline5 x Spider Riders (100)*5 x Spider Riders (100)**5 x Spider Riders (100)5 x Spider Riders (100)***10 x Spider Riders (200)***- Reinforced x 110 x Spider Riders (200)***- Reinforced x 1ArtilleryBeast-skewer Killbow (130)Endless Spells & InvocationsScrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron (50)Soulsnare Shackles (65)Core Battalions*Warlord**Warlord***Hunters of the HeartlandsAdditional EnhancementsArtefactArtefactTotal: 1990 / 2000Reinforced Units: 2 / 4Allies: 130 / 400Wounds: 131Drops: 13 The only things I'm a bit unsure of are the spells/artefacts on the webspinners and if I should trade out 10 spider riders for a skitterstrand. The spider riders will be more generally useful, but with all the bonuses for monsters having one that can deepstrike might be a useful too. I definitely want flaming weapon on one of the arachnaroks since it can buff the spider's leg attacks, but I'm not sure if I should give the one with AoD sneaky distraction, and the other one flaming weapon, so the one with AoD can double up on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmason Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 As I was list building a question popped into my head. A unit of shootas costs 140 points while a unit of LRL archers costs 150. Having played against LRL it seems either our shootas are way over costed or the LRL archers are way under costed… what am I missing here to understand how things are pointed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 One unit has twice as many wounds as the other, and this is important part of pricing as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broche Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Jmason said: As I was list building a question popped into my head. A unit of shootas costs 140 points while a unit of LRL archers costs 150. Having played against LRL it seems either our shootas are way over costed or the LRL archers are way under costed… what am I missing here to understand how things are pointed? I'm not an expert of the LRL warscroll, but you point something that have been the biggest issue in Warhammer since I play: point cost precision. At the end my guess is that they mostly score on guts feeling with major warscroll information (wound, save, attack an ability) and doesn't really have a rational approach to point assignation. That's why when there is a point update it take a couple hours usually and the players community have already found all the over/undercosted unit, and you see a meta like Heel spam or Skyfire spam for a couple of month while some model doesn't see play at all. Edited October 14, 2021 by broche 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Jmason said: As I was list building a question popped into my head. A unit of shootas costs 140 points while a unit of LRL archers costs 150. Having played against LRL it seems either our shootas are way over costed or the LRL archers are way under costed… what am I missing here to understand how things are pointed? Shootas are awful as a shooting unit. Better to think of them as an alternative to stabbas that trade melee output for ranged chip damage than as an actual shooting unit like Sentinels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ganigumo said: Shootas are awful as a shooting unit. Better to think of them as an alternative to stabbas that trade melee output for ranged chip damage than as an actual shooting unit like Sentinels. Aren't Shootas units of 20 too? I think the Lumineth archers are units of 10. So twice the bodies for only 10 points, such a deal!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, Lord Krungharr said: Aren't Shootas units of 20 too? I think the Lumineth archers are units of 10. So twice the bodies for only 10 points, such a deal!!! yeah but their shooting attack doesn't really do any damage. 20 attacks on 5s and 5s is like 2.2 wounds before saves, and none of our buffs affect shooting attacks.. Their value is in being 7 points per wound on a -1 to hit, which is pretty similar to what stabbas do but with a worse save. If you need them to just sit on a point somewhere they're fine, but if you plan on buffing them or bringing a big horde to grind with you're better off with stabbas. As a shooting unit they're awful by any metric, they just don't do any damage, but thats not their purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Ah I see; I was thinking the Loonboss could make their arrows do MW on 6s too. I'd probably go with the spears then. Maybe if the Gitz tome gets an update they'll augment that, or at least let Spiderfang wizards grant some venom to other units besides Spiders (the riders have their plinky bows'n'arrows too!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Yeah it'd be great if we could buff shootas the same way we buff stabbas, it would add a cool angle to the book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmason Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said: Aren't Shootas units of 20 too? I think the Lumineth archers are units of 10. So twice the bodies for only 10 points, such a deal!!! Thanks, I guess I was thinking more in terms of damage potential and didn’t consider the unit sizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Yeah, the Lumineth guys get MW on 6s naturally I think. Aelvish tech is advanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappgrot Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 11 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said: Yeah, the Lumineth guys get MW on 6s naturally I think. Aelvish tech is advanced. Also the army has 2 spells that can buff them Also they have 30 inch range also they need no los Also they have better stats. Also they give the opponent -1 to hit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Yowzah! That just sounds no fair at all. I played against the Gitz tonight with my Underguts. That Loonboss is super hard to hit! His stab'em'good ability makes those massive hordes of Grots really really dangerous. Bounderz are also super good. Da Bad Moon w the A-rok Shaman also did a bunch of MW....but the MVP was that darn Scuttletide spell. SOOOOOO irritating. Great hard game. Tooth N Nail kinda messed me up as I could deepstrike my Gorgers to sneakily attack that rear objective (along with the Loonboss and Fungoid Shaman). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) I did manage to scrounge up a second killbow. The list: Allegiance: Gloomspite Gitz- Option: Grimscuttle Tribes- Grand Strategy: Prized Sorcery- Triumphs: InspiredLeadersWebspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider (295)*- General- Command Trait: Prophet of da Spider God- Artefact: Shyishan Spider-sigils- Lore of the Spiderfangs: Sneaky DistractionScuttleboss on Gigantic Spider (105)*- Artefact: Totem of the Spider GodWebspinner Shaman (85)*- Lore of the Spiderfangs: Gift of da Spider GodWebspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider (295)**- Artefact: Amulet of Destiny (Universal Artefact)- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming WeaponWebspinner Shaman (85)**- Lore of the Spiderfangs: Scuttling TerrorsMadcap Shaman (80)**- Lore of the Moonclans: Itchy NuisanceBattleline5 x Spider Riders (100)*5 x Spider Riders (100)**5 x Spider Riders (100)***10 x Spider Riders (200)***- Reinforced x 110 x Spider Riders (200)***- Reinforced x 1ArtilleryBeast-skewer Killbow (130)- AlliesBeast-skewer Killbow (130)- AlliesEndless Spells & InvocationsScrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron (50)Chronomantic Cogs (45)Core Battalions*Warlord**Warlord***Hunters of the Heartlands Edited October 18, 2021 by Ganigumo Wrong image 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 The army (i posted a close up in the first by mistake) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 4:00 AM, Lord Krungharr said: Yeah, the Lumineth guys get MW on 6s naturally I think. Aelvish tech is advanced. Don’t worry mate, I have a feeling that the elves might loose a couple of war-scroll abilities in their next battletome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkdragonslayer Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 2:49 PM, Lord Krungharr said: Ah I see; I was thinking the Loonboss could make their arrows do MW on 6s too. I'd probably go with the spears then. Maybe if the Gitz tome gets an update they'll augment that, or at least let Spiderfang wizards grant some venom to other units besides Spiders (the riders have their plinky bows'n'arrows too!). It would have been a neat synergy. Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig (the one with the shooting attack) and a blob of shootas, but alas it wasn't meant to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 6:17 AM, Skreech Verminking said: Don’t worry mate, I have a feeling that the elves might loose a couple of war-scroll abilities in their next battletome. I wouldnt' count on Lumineth getting a new Battletome any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aelfric said: I wouldnt' count on Lumineth getting a new Battletome any time soon. I personally hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 11:18 PM, Skreech Verminking said: I personally hope so. Perhaps if Tyrion turns up with some Dragons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Aelfric said: Perhaps if Tyrion turns up with some Dragons. Perhaps that would mean the end of over ruled warscroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: Perhaps that would mean the end of over ruled warscroll You mean one over ruled warscroll to rule them all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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