Maturin Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the HeldenhammerLord-Castellant (120)- General- Command Trait: Deathly Aura - Artefact: Soulthief Knight-Azyros (100)- Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the Tempest5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (160)- Boltstorm Crossbows- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows20 x Judicators (640)- Skybolt Bows- 4x Shockbolt Bows9 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (270)- 3x Stormsurge Tridents5 x Protectors (180)- 2x Starsoul Maces5 x Protectors (180)- 2x Starsoul MacesWarrior Brotherhood (180)Total: 2130 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 139 Clocks in at 1970 points when all reductions applied. 1 drop army, but you're not forced to drop them altogether, you can have some of them starting on the table. If you're not facing a 1 drop army, you could : - give your opponent first turn. Depending on what he's got on the table and if he can make a T1 charge or not, you can just leave the judicators and prosecutors on the table. He moves, you shoot him in your hero phase with the two units. then you drop accordingly your melee units. - you take first turn, you drop everything on his face at an advantageous position, trying to apply maximum pressure with shooting. You don't charge but protect your shooters from threats. He's going to charge you afterwards anyway if he can. Edited July 5, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Im disappointed the thundercats didnt get a decrease. Those are my fav of the faction. I want to build a list around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubyandwells Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) That's a pretty interesting list, @Maturin! Never realized you could take multiple Shockbolt Bows in a unit, probably because Judicators were painful enough — at least in recent years — at 5 for 160. Had also completely forgotten about Warrior Brotherhood, since it wasn't in the 2018 SCE BT. Loving the options the new points are opening up for SCE. Edited July 5, 2020 by scrubyandwells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, Maturin said: . I stil want to rage against GW and their changes Most honest comment I’ve seen in response to GW changes I’m personally very sceptical about point changes as a way to balance the game. As pretty much every faction receives them. But will see after a few months if it has changed anything. i am however very excited about point changes for internal balance. And they seem, if it turns out to be true, good. Vanguard feel more valuable than ever. Happy to be working on them as a paint project already. brightest army I’ll ever paint 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Kramer said: Most honest comment I’ve seen in response to GW changes brightest army I’ll ever paint 😂 I'm the middle child of an ****** and a very nice guy. I'm very forward all the time ;). it's a very good looking aetherwing you got there man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, scrubyandwells said: That's a pretty interesting list, @Maturin! Never realized you could take multiple Shockbolt Bows in a unit, probably because they were painful enough — at least in recent years — at 5 for 160. Had also completely forgotten about Warrior Brotherhood, since it wasn't in the 2018 SCE BT. You're welcome mate ^^. 1 every 5 can take a special weapon. Don't forget to give the Thunderstormoftheslayingdeath arbalest to a regular dude in the Xbows unit, but do give the Skybolt bow to the prime in a bow one! Edited July 5, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Maturin said: I'm the middle child of an ****** and a very nice guy. I'm very forward all the time ;). it's a very good looking aetherwing you got there man! Oh I definitely appreciate it. And the compliment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 drop army go brrrrrr... 😛 Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the HeldenhammerLord-Relictor (100)- General- Command Trait: Deathly Aura- Prayer: TranslocationLord-Ordinator (140)Knight-Incantor (120)- Spell: Azyrite HaloKnight-Incantor (120)- Spell: StormcallerKnight-Azyros (100)- Artefact: Soulthief5 x Liberators (90)- Warblade & Shield- 1x Grandblades5 x Liberators (90)- Warblade & Shield- 1x Grandblades5 x Liberators (90)- Warblade & Shield- 1x Grandblades9 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (510)3 x Aetherwings (40)3 x Aetherwings (40)3 x Aetherwings (40)3 x Aetherwings (40)3 x Aetherwings (40)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 131 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, scrubyandwells said: Celestant Prime (300) Relictor (100) Azyros (100) Incantor (120) 5 Liberators (90) 5 Liberators (90) 5 Liberators (90) 10 Sequitors (240) 10 Sequitors (240) 9 Castigators (210) 6 Longstrikes (340) 3 Aetherwings (40) 3 Aetherwings (40) By sigmar name, i love this list! Have to test it out tommorow ❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Roark said: 18 drop army go brrrrrr... 😛 You need a mini gun conversion on your balistas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Roark said: 18 drop army go brrrrrr... 😛 I think you will loose some friends playing this army 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals - Stormhost: Hammers of Sigmar LeadersLord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)- GeneralKnight-Azyros (100)Lord-Ordinator (140)Battleline10 x Sequitors (240)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields10 x Sequitors (240)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields10 x Sequitors (240)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields10 x Sequitors (240)- Stormsmite Mauls and SoulshieldsArtilleryCelestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110) Celestial vortex – 30 Extra CP – 50Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: X What about something like this? Spam of sequitors to summon them back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nizrah said: What about something like this? Spam of sequitors to summon them back On a 5+ right ? That's not a lot of probability. I'd rather shed the extra CP for the healing swarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the HeldenhammerLeadersLord-Ordinator (140)Lord-Aquilor (180)- General- Command Trait: Deathly Aura - Artefact: Strife-ender - Mount Trait: Aethereal StalkerKnight-Azyros (100)- Artefact: Soulthief Battleline5 x Vanguard-Hunters (110)- Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes5 x Vanguard-Hunters (110)- Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits3 x Aetherwings (50)3 x Aetherwings (50)6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (340)9 x Castigators (240)9 x Castigators (240)ArtilleryCelestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)BattalionsSoulstrike Brotherhood (120)Total: 2110 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 128 This list is exacly 1990 now, with 7 drops and 7 unit starting on the table and 7 in sky. Looks decent i think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubyandwells Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Nizrah said: Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer This list is exacly 1990 now, with 7 drops and 7 unit starting on the table and 7 in sky. Looks decent i think. Yeah that looks pretty strong. Had been looking at Soulstrike Brotherhood as well. I think it's quite interesting now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, scrubyandwells said: Yeah that looks pretty strong. Had been looking at Soulstrike Brotherhood as well. I think it's quite interesting now. But with lack of MP artifacts i really dont know what to take with sce artefacts. Lichbone standard looks cool tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evantas Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 19 hours ago, Maturin said: Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer... ... Clocks in at 1970 points when all reductions applied. 1 drop army, but you're not forced to drop them altogether, you can have some of them starting on the table. If you're not facing a 1 drop army, you could : - give your opponent first turn. Depending on what he's got on the table and if he can make a T1 charge or not, you can just leave the judicators and prosecutors on the table. He moves, you shoot him in your hero phase with the two units. then you drop accordingly your melee units. - you take first turn, you drop everything on his face at an advantageous position, trying to apply maximum pressure with shooting. You don't charge but protect your shooters from threats. He's going to charge you afterwards anyway if he can. Is the battalion a legal option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Evantas said: Is the battalion a legal option? Yes, just as Skyborne slayers is. Check out in the Azyr application. Check "matched play" and you'll see it being offered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Ok seems the rest of the realm artifacts have leaked (don't have a source for this apart from a post in the roumour thread). They are generally uninspiring but it's fun to notice that 2 are still straight improvements over SCE ones (Syari Finelame > Blade of Heroes; Tiara of Renewal > Seed of Rebirth) and one is identical (Foil of the Aigrefin = Fang of Dracothion). Silver lining: the "tax" of taking a Stormhost is now (almost) exclusively "not having Staunch Defender" EDIT: here's the source (in French) https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/4654 Edited July 6, 2020 by Marcvs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yondaime Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 4:32 AM, scrubyandwells said: Many of us have dreamed of this day... Vanguard Auxiliary Chamber (130) - Lord Aquilor (170) - Knight Azyros (100) - Knight Venator (110) - Knight Venator (110) Vanguard Angelos Conclave (150) - Vanguard Hunters (100) - Vanguard Hunters (100) - Vanguard Hunters (100) - Vanguard Palladors (170) Vanguard Justicar Conclave (120) - Vanguard Longstrikes (170) - Vanguard Longstrikes (170) - Vanguard Longstrikes (170) - Aetherwings (40) - Aetherwings (40) - Aetherwings (40) 1990/2000 | 1 drop | 3CP | Anvils Problem is, you are basically playing a 1500pts army vs 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Yondaime said: Problem is, you are basically playing a 1500pts army vs 2000 Believe me, before artifacts nerfs an Azyros with a sword of judgement could be quite the surprise for the enemy. I would gladly play that list with the Malign artifact sorceries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Yondaime said: Problem is, you are basically playing a 1500pts army vs 2000 Without warscroll changes, playing vanguard you are always a bit down but I love this list and I’m definitely building it. It has every model in there I want to paint. I’m already somewhat on my way. And I’ve found both hunters and longstrike crossbows both so useful that I will most likely take them in different lists as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubyandwells Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Yondaime said: Problem is, you are basically playing a 1500pts army vs 2000 Yeah, that’s one reason why I suspect anyone viewing this as a tier 1 army is overestimating it’s potential, unless my understanding of AoS, and any past ability to assess builds, has gone out the window (it may have). But a chance to play an SCE Chamber in 2K? Living the dream. Edited July 6, 2020 by scrubyandwells 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Guys if i place my vanguard longstrike as riserve with scions ability, when i pop the unit, can i have my longshot ability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tizianolol said: Guys if i place my vanguard longstrike as riserve with scions ability, when i pop the unit, can i have my longshot ability? Yes just not in the hero face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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