peasant Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Tasman said: Yeah, he's pretty much a staple with the PTWB. I'm assuming that you're playing this in non-competitive settings. The PTWB only exists in the Everchosen battletome. Therefore, it is impossible to legally build a match play list as all of your units, excepting those with the 'ever chosen' keyword would count as allies.? Still, it's fun for practice games and 'just playing'. How? I Asked Here if I Could use This battallion under The ga:Chaos, is not legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Ok, I checked, its legal Because That battallion Belongs to grand Alliance Chaos too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, peasant said: How? I Asked Here if I Could use This battallion under The ga:Chaos, is not legal? There's been quite a bit of discussion about it. Whether or not the fact that the battalion is listed under "everchosen" makes it alliance specific to that. Meaning, of course, that all other factions without everchosen keyword would then count as being ally choices. GW is going to have to answer this in the near future. No problem, as far as I'm concerned in casual play. But it's pretty much been killed in the competitive (tournament) scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, peasant said: Ok, I checked, its legal Because That battallion Belongs to grand Alliance Chaos too The faqs per the update on GW site: Pages 46-156 – Khorne Bloodbound, Daemons of Khorne, Tzeentch Arcanites, Daemons of Tzeentch, Nurgle Rotbringers and Daemons of Nurgle These warscrolls are no longer used. They have been replaced with the warscrolls in Battletome: Blades of Khorne, Battletome: Disciples of Tzeentch and Battletome: Maggotkin of Nurgle. Also, the PTWB never appeared in the GA chaos book. Only in the Everchosen battletome. PTWB as we know it seems to be dead. I'm hoping that GW resolves this soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Afaik, @peasant is playing his army with Chaos allegiance instead of Nurgle... which is absolutely fine. (as per FAQ, all battalions belong to the corresponding grand alliance as well as their faction) There are some misunderstanding going around here... @Tasman Edited July 29, 2018 by Xasz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 My Bad, I Have to Let Know I Took grand Alliance chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, peasant said: My Bad, I Have to Let Know I Took grand Alliance chaos Not at all...... I was mistaken. Good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Well plaguetouched performs Good in My opinion. Next I Want to try The munificient Wanderers... Allegiance: Nurgle maggotkinGutrot Spume (140)Sorcerer (120)Lord of Plagues (140)Harbinger of Decay (160)5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)Plague Cyst (200)The Munificent Wanderers (100)Total: 1500 / 1500Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 200Wounds: 107 +1 CP +1 artifact, Still 1 drop. The -1 to hit in combat is Very Good but Maybe We Can replicate That Defense with The extra artifact, and The Save 1s reroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokoone Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 @peasant You're thinking of The Blessed Sons battalion not the Wanderers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlancoNino Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Had an idea for a feculant gnarlmaw, but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger customizing one of the two I have left to build (largely because they are expensive and hard to come by) so i figured I'd post the idea here and get other opinions before I pull the tigger. Basically I would build the tree, then hack it apart to make a stump similar to the image. Just not sure how good it would look because the tree is gorgeous, but it would mix it up rather than having 3 similar ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodylan Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 It seems that plague drones are the favoured of the two, but I Just finished up my second game with 4 pusgoyles in a unit, so far they’ve been my MVP both games. Their movement, durability and attacks (when buffed by a GUO) Just kept me in the game against a strong witch elf list. Not sure there has been an Occassion where I’d have rathered the drones get as I have only been able to get 3-4 max into combat anyway. Definitely a viable option for those deciding whether to give them a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Been having some success with my mixed Pestilens list but looking to make some changes - the Plague Priest I’ve been running isn’t doing much so changing him out, and looking to switch the unit of 10 Plaguebearers which leaves a quite a few points. Does anyone have any ideas on what to do with the remaining 320 points here, including 1 battleline? Marauders maybe? Would like to have at least 1 extra CP. Cheers!! Allegiance: NurgleMortal Realm: UlguVerminlord Corruptor (220)- Artefact: Sword of Judgement - Lore of Virulence: Sumptuous PestilencePlague Furnace (180)Great Unclean One (340)- General- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell- Trait: Grandfather's Blessing - Lore of Virulence: Glorious AfflictionsFestus The Leechlord (140)- Lore of Malignance: Blades of Putrefaction5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid BladesTotal: 1680 / 2000Extra Command Points: 6Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 166 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasman Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 hours ago, 5kaven5lave said: Been having some success with my mixed Pestilens list but looking to make some changes - the Plague Priest I’ve been running isn’t doing much so changing him out, and looking to switch the unit of 10 Plaguebearers which leaves a quite a few points. Does anyone have any ideas on what to do with the remaining 320 points here, including 1 battleline? Marauders maybe? Would like to have at least 1 extra CP. Cheers!! Allegiance: NurgleMortal Realm: UlguVerminlord Corruptor (220)- Artefact: Sword of Judgement - Lore of Virulence: Sumptuous PestilencePlague Furnace (180)Great Unclean One (340)- General- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell- Trait: Grandfather's Blessing - Lore of Virulence: Glorious AfflictionsFestus The Leechlord (140)- Lore of Malignance: Blades of Putrefaction5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid BladesTotal: 1680 / 2000Extra Command Points: 6Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 166 Well for me the obvious is another unit of Kings......That still leaves 160 pts for something else. Gutrot and an extra 20 for an endless spell, or cogs and 2 cps.....there's quite a bit that you can do here actually. Marauders at 200 and another sorcerer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcysimon Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 That list miss 1 battleline?! Monks are battleline only in pestilence alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Tasman said: Well for me the obvious is another unit of Kings......That still leaves 160 pts for something else. Gutrot and an extra 20 for an endless spell, or cogs and 2 cps.....there's quite a bit that you can do here actually. Marauders at 200 and another sorcerer? Legend, thanks for the ideas. I think taking Kings and Cogs is what I’ll try first, GUO boosting everything across the board or rerolling saves will be massive to get those buffed up rats shredding stuff. Will need those 2CP to stop 15 rats running turn 1. Edited July 30, 2018 by 5kaven5lave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strackonan Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I am starting an escalation league this week starting at 500 points. I was thinking about either: poxbringer of nurgle (120) - witherstave - Favoured poxes 30 x plaguebearers (320) chromatic cogs (60) or gutrot spume (140) Putrid blightkings (160) Plague drones (200) to max on contagion points and summon a poxbringer/plaguebearers potentially on turn 2? Any thoughts or improvements would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, Strackonan said: I am starting an escalation league this week starting at 500 points. I was thinking about either: poxbringer of nurgle (120) - witherstave - Favoured poxes 30 x plaguebearers (320) chromatic cogs (60) or gutrot spume (140) Putrid blightkings (160) Plague drones (200) to max on contagion points and summon a poxbringer/plaguebearers potentially on turn 2? Any thoughts or improvements would be appreciated You dont need 2 battlelines even at 500? I prefer The 2nd but I would Change gutrot for a Lord of Plagues. Gutrot is Awesome but I think is Better in These games to Keep Special Characters out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke82 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 10 hours ago, BlancoNino said: Had an idea for a feculant gnarlmaw, but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger customizing one of the two I have left to build (largely because they are expensive and hard to come by) so i figured I'd post the idea here and get other opinions before I pull the tigger. Basically I would build the tree, then hack it apart to make a stump similar to the image. Just not sure how good it would look because the tree is gorgeous, but it would mix it up rather than having 3 similar ones. It would be a shame to carve one of them up, could you scratch build it? Some floral wire and plaster wrap made some very simple Nurgle trees for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Thoughts on Tamurkhan's Horde? Do the benefits outweigh the loss of some characters? Seems pretty good to me but I'm new and a sucker for the frogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) On 7/29/2018 at 6:02 AM, Tasman said: Yeah, he's pretty much a staple with the PTWB. I'm assuming that you're playing this in non-competitive settings. The PTWB only exists in the Everchosen battletome. Therefore, it is impossible to legally build a match play list as all of your units, excepting those with the 'ever chosen' keyword would count as allies.? Still, it's fun for practice games and 'just playing'. They already fixed that problem long time ago. The FAQ said if all models from a battalion fulfill "X" the battalion becomes "X". In this case it would get the "Nurgle" Keyword. If we follow the rules from Pg.240 it's even more clear. It shows that the only thing that matters is the "Organisation" field which says 1 Nurgle Hero, 7 Nurgle units. Wherever you find the warscroll is not relevant. So it's absolutely fine to play the plaquetouched in pitched battles. Edited July 31, 2018 by Kurrilino 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungolah Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Kurrilino said: They already fixed that problem long time ago. The FAQ said if all models from a battalion fulfill "X" the battalion becomes "X". In this case it would get the "Nurgle" Keyword. If we follow the rules from Pg.240 it's even more clear. It shows that the only thing that matters is the "Organisation" field which says 1 Nurgle Hero, 7 Nurgle units. Wherever you find the warscroll is not relevant. So it's absolutely fine to play the plaquetouched in pitched battles. Check the latest FAQ. There should be no more ambiguity. PTWB models are allies everywhere but Everchosen and GA:C. It does not matter that the PTWB units are Nurgle, they are still allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke1705 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 50 minutes ago, grungolah said: Check the latest FAQ. There should be no more ambiguity. PTWB models are allies everywhere but Everchosen and GA:C. It does not matter that the PTWB units are Nurgle, they are still allies. Grungola is correct. Only GA: Chaos for PTWB. Everchosen I don’t think works because the Varanguard are marked in the hero phase, not upon setup. Even if they count, that’d be over 2k for varanguard and everchosen heroes, pretty much no matter how you slice it. Even if you can include allied heroes as the required HQ selections (which I don’t think you can) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke1705 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Played a game today vs Stormcast with Archaon, the Glottkin, and 80 marauders with a few other supporting elements. So many mortal wounds, and they really couldn’t handle the bodies. Was a short game after I double turned him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, grungolah said: Check the latest FAQ. There should be no more ambiguity. PTWB models are allies everywhere but Everchosen and GA:C. It does not matter that the PTWB units are Nurgle, they are still allies. Oh thx for the enlightenment. So Everchosen Battalions in chaos armies only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grungolah Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Luke1705 said: Grungola is correct. Only GA: Chaos for PTWB. Everchosen I don’t think works because the Varanguard are marked in the hero phase, not upon setup. Even if they count, that’d be over 2k for varanguard and everchosen heroes, pretty much no matter how you slice it. Even if you can include allied heroes as the required HQ selections (which I don’t think you can) That's interesting. I'm not familiar with the idea of "hq selections." is this something in the Everchosen tome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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