GeneralZero Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 As I see magic in your strategy: - no use: then prepare to be magicified - light defensive: just anti cast units to try to counterspell your oponent. Unbinding unbinding..... - heavy defensive: just be able to cast some defensive Endless spells - ligh magic : honnestly, it is probably not worth it - heavy magic: buy at least 2 offensive (even one defensive) spells. Your strategy need several wizzards, and chaff/units to protect them: they are your damage dealer and probably your heaviest instment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundre Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Overall I'm really impressed by GW. Updates look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefankemp Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 This may have been asked already, but does anyone know of the realm-specific artefacts and lores appear in the handbook? Or anywhere else outside of the malign sorcery book for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I also wonder: will we have to choose the spells beforehand or just reserve points and decide during the game which ones to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Aginor said: I also wonder: will we have to choose the spells beforehand or just reserve points and decide during the game which ones to use? I'd assume they are part of your list. Don't think the endless spells are very powerful (but they seem to be quite fun). They have pretty high casting costs and are bit random, so I wouldn't count too much on them. Some spells might be nice add-ons for wizards that have otherwise a purpose, but wouldn't probably ever take a wizard just for casting those spells. The utility spells seem to be the best. Of course if you get the d6 mortal wound spell cast so that it goes through multiple units, it's going to be fatal, but it's also quite hard to pull. I can imagine that quite often the casting wizard is trying to dispel his own predatory spell to be able to cast it again as it wanders around somewhere in the corner of the table doing nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayple Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 @Jamopower I agree on the utility spells. They look way more useful than most of the damaging ones. I'm very curious about the chain-trap looking spell. It seems like it could be a good tool to bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoby Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mayple said: @Jamopower I agree on the utility spells. They look way more useful than most of the damaging ones. I'm very curious about the chain-trap looking spell. It seems like it could be a good tool to bring. I saw the warscroll for that. From what I remember, you set one up and then set up two others in a 6" radius around it. Enemies within X" (can't remember) half their movement. It gets better in the realm of Death. I think it had a casting value of a 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 As I already said, MAGIC is a choice. You'll have to invest in it or the effects will be random at best. But if you invest correctly, it can be deadly and effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronWilson Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Do we know yet if we pick a realm & get there lores as part of a list yet, or is that only for open / narrative, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, AaronWIlson said: Do we know yet if we pick a realm & get there lores as part of a list yet, or is that only for open / narrative, etc Hasn't it been clear for a long time that the spells are based where the battle takes place and the artefacts based on where your army is from. Thus I don't believe the spells will see much play outside casual gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: As I already said, MAGIC is a choice. You'll have to invest in it or the effects will be random at best. But if you invest correctly, it can be deadly and effective. It just is that you can't usually invest on being able to cast those spells better. Investing on spells that have casting value of 8+ without wizards that get bonus to casting is bit of risky. Now on the other hand if you have Nagash in your army, sure having a spell or two in your list isn't a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syph0n Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Jamopower said: Hasn't it been clear for a long time that the spells are based where the battle takes place and the artefacts based on where your army is from. Thus I don't believe the spells will see much play outside casual gaming. I hope that's true - more artefacts is good. It could only have been better if you picked realm for your army and got both, but narratively I guess it makes no sense to get Ulgu spells/abilities if you're actually fighting in Aqshy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choombatta Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 15 hours ago, GeneralZero said: I'm so looking forward to seeing all those new stormcast... Am I the only one seeing Balthasar Gelt in the design of this model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syph0n Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 A quick Google says yes, apart from the obvious lady bits! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Marius Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, syph0n said: I hope that's true - more artefacts is good. It could only have been better if you picked realm for your army and got both, but narratively I guess it makes no sense to get Ulgu spells/abilities if you're actually fighting in Aqshy. I kinda think more artefacts is unnecessary as i expect there to be one or two standouts that are auto-includes rendering all the rest pointless... but kt would be nice to be wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Do we know anything about any Rules of one? As it stands, rule 1, 2, 4 and 5 are already in the new core rules. (page 8 -Casting Spells, 7 - Rolling Attacks, 1 - Roll-Offs, 17 - Artifacts of Power) I've got the feeling they will be a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syph0n Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Captain Marius said: I kinda think more artefacts is unnecessary as i expect there to be one or two standouts that are auto-includes rendering all the rest pointless... but kt would be nice to be wrong! If you play a Battletome-less army, more of anything is appreciated! But yes, point taken. It will be nice to have some choice or at least a bit of a quandary of artefact to choose between! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevvermore Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, Enoby said: I saw the warscroll for that. From what I remember, you set one up and then set up two others in a 6" radius around it. Enemies within X" (can't remember) half their movement. It gets better in the realm of Death. I think it had a casting value of a 5. It only halfs their movement on a 3+ though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingInYellow Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I'm wondering if the matched play restriction on endless spells means one model on the table at a time, or only one casting attempt per game period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, GeneralZero said: "When you’re writing your lists, you’ll have the option to purchase endless spells using points, with matched play profiles found in both the Malign Sorcery book and the General’s Handbook 2018. And in other purchasing news - huge if true! It could mean that you could purchase Malign Sorcery in hard copy, and GH digitally, and still get the endless spell functionality in the app via GH without having to double-purchase Malign Sorcery digitally as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukes4life Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 will the rules of one return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, nukes4life said: will the rules of one return? Most of them have made the shift from Matched Play to Core Rules already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukes4life Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 that is why I ask, If they don't return Kroak can cast his spell three times and rippers can rip a loooot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, nukes4life said: will the rules of one return? They may not return in the exact same form, but there are clearly references throughout the core book and malign sorceries to restrictions in matched play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Jamopower said: Hasn't it been clear for a long time that the spells are based where the battle takes place and the artefacts based on where your army is from. Thus I don't believe the spells will see much play outside casual gaming. No, endless are bought regardless of realm and it's clear from the scrolls, too, as they get more powerful depending on the realm. It's still up in the air if you can pick your other realm spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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